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I've made the heart-breaking decision to sell B
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He comes back from his loan home at the end of this month and I just can't afford to keep him anymore.
How does this ad sound?
16.3hh 10yr old German WB
Won won everything at local RC level. Regularly qualified and placed in Style Jumping, Dressage and Riding Test at the BRC National Finals.
Affiliated in 2008 - 24 BD points and a small amount of BSJA winnings. Always placed out dressage (recent score of 72.4% at BD Novice).
Working Elementary/Medium level at home – capable of going Medium and above.
Jumps 1.10m at home and 1.05m at competitions. Plenty of scope but can lack confidence over fillers.
Not the boldest XC but clear around Milton Keynes, Keysoe and Ely’s Intro course
Also loves hunting and jumps ditches and hedges with ease.
Can be spooky out on a hack (is partially sighted in one eye) but goes out alone and in company.
100% to box,trailer,shoe,clip etc

And any idea of prices?

This are the pics I was considering using:
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Hes gorgeous!! Are you selling now or waiting till spring? I would say £7500 at a guess - but dont know how much you are wanting. Does he have any recent competition experience?
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Unfortunately having to sell now. His last competition was October last year (BD Petplan Festivals). He went out on loan after that but it hasn't worked out with the loaner so I am getting him back
 
He looks and sounds wonderful but he wont pass a full vetting with partial sight in one eye. That will make him difficult to insure over 3500 - i doubt anyone will pay more if they cant insure him??
 
I think he is worth a lot more. Having seen him, he is a really nice dressage horse who would easily get to regionals/beyond at Elementary level at least - the fact that he jumps and does everything else is a bonus. How is he bred? Would he be able to show a younger rider the ropes? I can't imagine that him being partially sighted matters much - surely not a problem to have an eye uninsured?

I'd say £8-10K.
 
Didnt think about him not passing the vetting. What made you decide not to look for another loan home? If what dressagequeenie is correct (i think it is) then i also couldnt see anyone paying more than 3500 if they cant insure him for more
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If you want a loanhome.... I'll snap him up! Lol! I'd probably say 8k ish if the sight doesnt affect a vetting, but I think it will so that will lower it. Say 4.5k ish but then probably accept 3.5... it's a shame we live in a world that desires such perfection, but the eye would put alot if exclusions on the insurance. Gorgeous horse though.

p.s, kinda serious about the loan too - but then there will be 100 other people on here after a loan with a horse as gorgeous too! Good luck!
 
You need a conformation photo too.

I'd market him as a dressage horse with the other stuff being a bonus I think, as the partial sightedness could be an issue for jumping.

If you know the cause of the problem with the eye and know that it will not deteriorate then say so. My concern would be ending up with a horse that is totally blind in one eye a year or two down the line.

I think you'd struggle to get more than £5k. The eye will be the problem, that and the gap in his competition record due to the loaner. People will wonder why he hasn't competed for a while and why he hasn't gelled with the loaner - it could suggest he is difficult.

It might be worth finding a new loaner who will compete him and improve his value, for a few months and then sell him or a sharer on a temorary basis while he is advertised.
 
I'm afraid that the eye condition will restrict the number of people who will consider him and also greatly affect his value. You're looking at a fairly low price, IMO, and you'll also want to get the right home for him given that and his confidence issues jumping. Might the eye and jumping issues be related?

Hope he finds a super home.
 
He's a lovely looking horse. I think the suggestion above that you position him as a dressage horse with additional all rounder talents is a good one. You should also give details of his breeding. The above pics are good. Try to get one of his confirmation, preferably on a sunny day. The pics can be worth a thousand words!
Price: perhaps 4.5k, but I'm not great at guessing.

Best of Luck. I hope you find a happy home for him!
 
Would you be able to find a home through word of mouth? Perhaps within your RC? Just thinking that people who know him and have seen him out and about would have less of an issue with the partial sight than someone just reading an advert?
And worth speaking to a couple of insurers to see what they say about insuring him at whatever value - presumably they could exclude the eye? As vets 'vet for purpose' if he is vetted as a dressage horse maybe the sight problem wouldn't matter?
 
3.5k is too low imho... He can do dressage, jump, xc so would make someone a lovely allrounder. Plenty of horses have issues, mine weaves and cribs occasionally, headshakes in spring/summer without a nosenet, has a quirky nature and he still managed to be a high level BSJA and BE horse. The eye doesn't sound as if its affecting him in any way and it would only be that particular eye that would be excluded on the insurance I would have thought.
 
just to clarify - the fact that he has partial sight in one eye will affect his overall value as well as excluding it for insurance. I would also like to add that i would not put my daughter on a horse with partial sight to show jump esp if it has issues with fillers - H&S!! I know you know him really well but when you sell them you never know where the will end up. sorry x
 
No worries - I have not taken offence to anything you have said. I posted this knowing full well that I would get a variety of opinions. Anyone that knows him can vouch that his eye has never held him back (he has always had partial sight in that eye since birth) but obviously an outsider wouldn't know/may not believe this.
Thanks for your comments - they are all valid
 
I would say minimum £6500 but probably more like £7500. He is stunning, a fab allrounder and a top Riding Club horse. The partial sightedness wouldn't put me off at all as it doesn't affect him and I am sure many other people are the same way.

So sorry to hear you have to sell him, it must be heartbreaking for you. I don't suppose there is any chance of finding a new loaner so you can keep him?
 
I was undecided whether I would sell him and the end of the original loan agreement anyway and I think I am now put off loaning him out again as he is 99% perfect angel and one little moment of acting like a normal WB and she hands him back - once bitten and all that!!!
 
Mine had a cataract issue with did affect his pricing significantly. But I would think if it cant degrade it wont make as big a dent as his did. But agree with others I think it will make a difference.

He is lovely, quite partial to chestnut warmbloods, personality all of their own
 
sure it was 1% horse and not 99% weather?!!! even the most sane horse on my yard is turning into an idiot at the moment! if you were thinking of a loan - then is it because you would like to keep him until your situation improves? in which case, how about another idea? as he has dressage form, how about leasing him? He does look beautiful .... WB arent my "thing" normally but westphalians (sp?!) are always the exception!

thought the idea of contacting the insurers to see what their thoughts would be was good - when I was looking I found Mr Perfect (and Mrs Perfect owner too!) - horse had good BE record but had had surgical colic - insurers gave me very interesting feedback as to what they would insure/how they would insure.
 
Lovely, lovely boy. I think that personally I would ask for offers to guage a response to his eye, to be honest. Even with his eye, I would think 5k min and market him on high-end websites.
 
I can definitely vouch for B being the sweetest and kindest ginger WB alive. He is perfect to handle and brilliant to ride - I have seen a kid jump him 1m at home, and he jumped everything including fillers. I think Nat is actually overemphasising negatives such as can be spooky - every horse (except a wooden or a half dead one) has the capacity to be spooky.

As for insurance, they will probably exclude the actual condition and not the eye itself - so it wouldnt be covered for any flare ups of uveitis but everything else would be covered. And anyway AHT sorted him out in August so Nat could provide all the vet reports.
 
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