How 'finely tuned' is your horse...?

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... and how easily is your schooling 'derailed'?
I can see how a youngster could be upset by a different rider, especially if rider isn't as good as usual rider, and of course I don't doubt that some horses are more sensitive than others, just as some riders aren't as good as others but I would never have thought that lending PF to someone for 1hr to ride in a lesson I was giving would have such a dramatic effect on her! Rider is certainly NOT rubbish or I wouldn't have lent her, and she's very sympathetic with her hands. Lesson went fine, PF was a bit buzzy, but then she gets buzzy with me as well and I thought the lady riding her coped very nicely under the circumstances.
I could see YO wanting to have words with me, but somehow he contained himself until yesterday when I just couldn't get PF to soften and relax through her poll and neck when on Weds she'd gone beautifully. YO (also RI) told me it was because someone else had ridden her. I was
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. He told me he never EVER lets anyone ride his best horses, and certainly not above a trot on a loose rein. I continued to be
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Is this a measure of the excellence of one's schooling? (*snort*) the rubbishness of one's schooling? The fact that the horse is only ridden by one person? The sensitivity of each individual horse? Do you think it is advantageous for horse to be ridden my more than one person? How does your own horse react to being ridden by someone else? Is there anyone he/she doesn't go for? Do you allow anyone else to ride your horse?
My friend J rode Antifaz for me whilst I was broken and he NEVER went well for him. He was tense, nervous... and yet I just couldn't see that J was doing anything wrong...
Ideas and experiences welcome
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Depends on the horse - some are sensitive. I like other people to ride my horses as gives you a fresh perspective. I do not expect them to get the same tune that I do unless a much better rider but I often get interesting things that I have not thought about. I would not expect an hours lesson to undo someones work on the flat but I think it could happen very quickly jumping.
 
My bay gelding is very selective of who he likes on his back!! He goes well for my RI but I think that's because she rides him similar to me, so he's happy with her.
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My friend who has evented up to intermediate BE and is very experienced - he has a hate relationship with her. Will fight and fight and fight with her. Hates her. Then when I have ridden him afterwards, he has punished me for letting her ride him lol! Usually takes a few rides to settle him again lol
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Buzz susses people out in the first 5 minutes and if they are nervouse he is a star but if they are a good/confident/capable rider he will hot up and make them really work, but no one ever gets the full extent of his silliness that I do!
 
I don't like ANYONE riding my horses, they always seem different afterwards and not in a good way. OH has to ride FB, because it would be grossly unfair for me to have two horses and him not be allowed to ride either of them! But OH is a novice and FB doesn't really do beginners. I rode him the other weekend for the first time since we have had Ari (three months) and it took me a while to get him to move nicely, but when we got going I could almost feel him relax and think, 'Thank goodness, it's you!'
 
Im fussy who I let school my horses, its only me and one very good friend
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Bear might just be a cob but he's very switched on and can be very sharp
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He's very sensitive in the field. After he had a couple months off, I asked for trot and he started bucking
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I left the canter as my Aunty was down, she hadn't ridden for years and I was letting her hack him out
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He was very good on the hack though
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Bear's similar to yours DR, he is an angel if my sister rides him round the field on a loose rein, but when I get on. He's like a mini andalucian! PMSL
 
I dont really like someone else riding my horse unless its someone I know and trust very well. My late Vay used to be terrible on the flat with other people, really chucking her head around and being a pain.. even with good riders she wouldnt give them an inch! When I would get back on she felt even nicer because I think she was just relieved I was back! There were only 2 other people who could get a lovely tune out of her and they commented on what a pleasure she was to ride that made me
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but tbh most people said 'you make her look a lot easier than she is!' and they wouldnt want to ride her again ha ha!
 
I didn't realise just how fussy my girl was until she made her feelings perfectly clear about 4 potential sharers and one sharer. Even now she punishes me the day after the sharer has ridden.
 
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I think PF tries, but she doesn't quite understand the signals and then she gets tense and buzzy. I don't suppose it helps that only one other person has been on her for years!
 
Yes my friend does, I ride Sammi alot quieter and 'ask' him to do things, whereas she gets on him and 'tells' him - it's a battle of wills with them two lol! I'm only a shorty, and she's several inches taller then me, so we 'sit' totally different too! Sammi is a stressy type of horse, so when I get on, I warm him through with a light contact and not ask much of him, and then start working him. My friends gets on him and expects him to work from the off - it just upsets him! Toys thrown out of his pram, dummy well and truely spat lol! xx
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The only other person to have ridden Ellie other than me is my SJ instructor. He ( who has competed on Nations Cup teams, and has also won at HOYS and Olympia, and is in my opinion a truly stunning rider!) had her at his yard for a few weeks when we first got her, just for some intensive schooling. She never went particularly badly for him, but I do recall one time he got on her with a pair of spurs on (he'd had them on for his previous ride) and she went straight up in the air
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I may be speaking out of turn, but I think it would be fair to say he didnt ever feel he got on with her very well - he always said she was a bit too sharp!
One day, we hired a competition venue for a schooling session. He got on Elz just to demonstrate what he was going to ask me to do. He ended up with a very badly broken leg that meant he couldnt ride for 13 months and had to pass over his HOYS ride for that year
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Since then, no one has ridden her but me - and no one ever will
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Ellie is very sensitive, i allowed someone before now ride her for 10mins in the school, then when i got on her she was so tense and took a while to settle back down again, however she goes well for my sharer but my sharer rides alot like me, i wont let anyone else ride her now, she just tends to not want to go forwards and will just go completley hollow and wont even move into trot when normally she is a push button, kyra used to go very well for me but my mum used to struggle but i was the one that would always school her and i was the one who broke her in to obviously with the help of my mum, but it is meant to be good for them to be ridden by others but i worry about it now,
 
Oh actually - I've just thought of another example.
Before I got Ellie, I spent the summer with my instructor and he let me help him break in one of his babies, a lovely little Carnaval Drum 4 year old
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I did mostly flatwork and some pole work with him, and J (instructor) taught him to jump. He went beautifully for both of us, and I loved riding him! But what was interesting is that towards the end of the summer, J let me start to jump him - and it all fell apart
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I dont know whether it was my inexperience (I was only 12) or whatever, but obviously I gave him very different signals when jumping compared to my instructor. With J, the horse would jump pretty much anything - he was green, but not naughty. With me, he quickly got into bad habits (ie. after 2 sessions!) and developed a very nasty stop...and then when J got back on him, he had a nightmare of a time ironing him back out again!
I guess that just proves how impressionable young horses are - I wouldnt say I ruined him (but at the time I certainly felt I had - it made me feel dreadful
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) I didnt jump him after that as I felt it would be detrimental to his training, and although J was convinced he'd be fine with me once I became more positive, I was really worried that my mistakes would tarnish him forever!
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