How is deciding a horse is not for you 'timewasting'??

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Feeling annoyed on behalf of my sharer today! (She doesn't know I'm posting this)

She went to see a horse on Saturday, sounded perfect on paper, from a well known dealer who I believe uses the forums here (Not mentioning any names as I don't want to be accused of being defamatory!). She found the horse to not be what she wanted and was not happy with buying from this individual, so decided not to buy the aforementioned horse.

The horse is still advertised, but the advert has been edited to say 'STILL FOR SALE AS OF XX/09 DUE TO TIMEWASTERS'. I don't see HOW she wasted this person's time? She came to see the horse, was looking forward to trying the horse as he sounded perfect, and found that he was not for her. That, surely, is part and parcel of selling horses, ESPECIALLY if you're a dealer.

Sorry wouldn't usually post something like this, but feeling quite affronted on her behalf! On a personal note, seeing that in an advert puts me right off of even enquiring about horses.

ETA - Just noticed the same has been put on the advert of another horse she tried at the dealer's suggestion. If she wasn't going to try the horse initially, how can she be timewasting?!
 
i got told i was a timewaster cos i woudn't try a horse that was totally misdiscribed and reared and nearly chucked his rider when they were showing him to me!!!
tbh i think people put that in an advert because it looks better than nothing if it's been advertised for a while - ie blame the people who saw it not the fact the horse is a yak/mad/overpriced/sh*te etc....
 
I suspect 90% of people labeled "time-waters" were just people who found something they didn't like about the horse they've seen.

It amazes me how many sellers almost assume because you've turned up for a viewing, you have some way committed to buying the horse.

As far as I'm concerned, until a deposit's put down, everyone's free to change their minds as much as they like.
 
i think it may also be so that other people that enquired about it, know that the horse is again available.

Its easy to write " Due to timewaster"

rather then

"person came to try horse and decided he was not for her!"

I wouldnt really take it to heart.
 
not a timewaster at all imo , most of us will try several horses before buying

timewaster to me is someone whosee's the horse 3 + times , dills about , says they might buy it etc & then doesn't
 
hmm unless she'd agreed to have the horse and a deposit had been sorted then I can't see how in your friends situation she's a time waster, yes I'd be a little peaved to have seen this, but how do you know this dealer was reffering to your friend? they may have been messed about by someone else perhaps?
 
Whenever I see the 'due to timewasters' line in an advert I always wonder what the so called 'timewaster' would have to say if they were able to defend themselves.

Granted, some ppl are eejits who might show up but are still not sure they even want to buy a horse for sure. That's silly. But if smoeone tries a horse and decides its a no thankyou, I think it very bad manners to post them as a timewaster. Ppl trying the horse out is all part of the process, not a waste of time.
 
I would class a timewaster as someone who spends ages looking at the horse etc then comes up with a silly reason for saying no thanks.

I have experienced some of these. Fine if the horse is not for you, be honest and go home - don't stay there hours!!!!!

ETS - Not that I think you did this!!!!!
 
Hehe Horsemad12 I 100% agree with you! I told her before she even started looking that if she tried a horse to tell the seller the second she knew if she felt the horse was not for her.

Mistral - why not just put 'still for sale'? It's just got my back up on her behalf lol! She's a lovely girl and if she hadn't thought the horse could be suitable would never have called in the first place.

Kenzo - It's got the date of when she went to see the horse in the timewasters bit. Unless the person had lined up a load of people in one day, which could have been awkward if she'd decided to buy it! lol
 
It is so maddening though isn't it?
We drove over 100 miles to see a trailer which was clearly not what they had described it as so we didn't buy then later that same evening saw the advert amended to say "no more timewasters"! I was very tempted to email and ask who actually wasted whose time but didn't want to waste any more of my time on stupid idiots!
 
this is what i'd call a timewaster -

in the ad clearly says - horse is 16.2, has a photo so you can see its build clearly.

people turn up, see the horse - oh its quite big isnt it?
me - its 16.2
them - oh, we didnt think it'd be that big. i think its too big for us we wanted more of a 16 hander

WTF!
 
Haha yes cactus spot on!

dizzykizzy - Yup I'd like to ask this person HOW my sharer wasted their time, but that would waste my own time! Stupid thing is, it wasn't ME that tried the horse!
 
I was described as the same when I had a very similar experience to posie_honey. Horse refused to be caught when eventually we did catch him he reared and bucked and barged and jogged in circles around my OH for 20 minutes and refused to budge at times. Certainly wasn't as described and definitely not for me - I've been feeling a bit nervous of riding and no way was I going to risk my neck.
 
When I see an advert that states 'still for sale due to timewasters' I try to avoid. Do sellers realise how badly it reflects on them? I am sooooo lucky that I have never sold a horse, they are with me for life so I take buying one very seriously. He/she has to be right for me, my other horses and my routine. You can't know this from reading an advert, and anyway what is written in the advert is not always what you find when you go and see the horse. Give your sharer a hug, she was in the right, seller is in the wrong.
 
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this is what i'd call a timewaster -

in the ad clearly says - horse is 16.2, has a photo so you can see its build clearly.

people turn up, see the horse - oh its quite big isnt it?
me - its 16.2
them - oh, we didnt think it'd be that big. i think its too big for us we wanted more of a 16 hander
WTF!

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clearly that would be timewasting.

Sorry should have added before your friend is blatantly not a timewaster, but they were prob too thick to think of anything else to put in the ad
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this is what i'd call a timewaster -

in the ad clearly says - horse is 16.2, has a photo so you can see its build clearly.

people turn up, see the horse - oh its quite big isnt it?
me - its 16.2
them - oh, we didnt think it'd be that big. i think its too big for us we wanted more of a 16 hander

WTF!

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Ha ha!! I've had that happen to me too! Feel like throttling them dont you lol!
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I had the 'oh my god she's HUGE' What 16.2hh?! Really? Didn't realise she represented a giraffe at 16.2hh lol!
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She's not a time waster, she's probably not the first to say no thanks, it's just their excuse for not selling the horse and having to keep advertising it.
 
While I can see how it would be a waste of the sellers time(Ie,time was spent showing the horse and it diddnt sell) I dont see how you could possably be angry with someone who is honest and keeps you up to speed.

Buying a horse is a massive commitment and it is rare to have that eurika moment of clicking with a new horse the first second.
Someone who views a horse that ticks the boxs on paper but decides it's not for them most definatly is not timewasting.
Someone who goes for a look with no intention of buying the horse is.
 
we were labelled timewasters on a 17yo that we decided against as he looked lame on second viewing and we weren't happy with his condition given what he was supposedly being fed...

guess what it was a chestnut welsh d gelding
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2 months later I bought the younger, sound version and now he is nearly 17 he def doesn't look like that 17yo did.
 
No, timewasters are people who arrange a viewing then dont turn up.
Timewasters are people who ride the poor beast for 2 hours and then say they didnt enjoy riding him
Timewasters are people who clearly cant ride to the standard that they stated on the phone
Timewasters are people who make an offer, promise to call back with a vetting time but never, ever do
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this is what i'd call a timewaster -

in the ad clearly says - horse is 16.2, has a photo so you can see its build clearly.

people turn up, see the horse - oh its quite big isnt it?
me - its 16.2
them - oh, we didnt think it'd be that big. i think its too big for us we wanted more of a 16 hander
WTF!

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clearly that would be timewasting.

Sorry should have added before your friend is blatantly not a timewaster, but they were prob too thick to think of anything else to put in the ad
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Really? When I was looking for a new horse, we went to see them of all sizes, because one mans 17hh is not anothers. Some 16.1s are in reality 15.2, some advertised as 16.3 must be pushing 17.1.

We went to see horses that were advertised as 16.3 or 17hh, because the advert did not state that it had a life height cert. ALSO some 16.3s are more fine, and so I am much happier to ride than a larger build, even than a larger build 16hh.


Its my money, I can spend it on whatever type, size, shape horse I want. One woman was being quite rude when we went to view, so we just left. There are plenty horses in the country for sale, I was NOT pandering to her foul mood.

In the end I got a lovely 16.1 which somehow shrunk to a 15.3 when we got him home! But he's grown now any way
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I think the only buyers who can be labelled timewasters are those who arrange to call to view but never turn up failing to ring beforehand to cancel the viewing. Do they honestly think a seller would be more upset if they phoned to say they were no longer coming or they left the seller waiting about for ages with said horse ready to view.
 
I have a cracking example of timewasting ...

try horse, like horse, make offer, leave small deposit, have vetting, arrange collection date .....

Call up night before collection to say that having the horse was dependant on selling the current one which had failed the vet that day big time!
 
As someone who has been searching for a horse for what seems like forever!... It frustrates the hell out of me that the buyer is always referred to as the 'timewaster'. How about all times I have driven all over the country to discover horses have been completely misadvertised. For example the one horse I drove 140 miles to see was advertised as 15.2hh only to get there and be faced with a 14.3hh. The excuse I was given was 'he is 15.2hh with shoes on'
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What kind of shoes would they be then? Platforms?!!! And all the 'suitable for a novice' rides I have been to see, like the one who almost bounced it's rider off, or the 16.2 (which turned out to be a 17.1 that was blind in one eye!) Honestly, I wish I could demand 'no time wasters' from all the sellers out there! It isn't an easy job buying or selling a horse, but there should be a mutual respect in both cases. Good luck to your friend and at least she knows not to deal with those dealers again.
 
Then there are timewasting sellers. I think the seller may be the same one your sharer went to see.
Travelled 4 hours to see pony and wasn't allowed to do anything other than trot it up and down the road. The seller had a field which was full of jumps. We weren't even allowed to walk around the field as he said it had rained the night before and would be slippy. It didn't look slippy to me and I don't remember it raining! And why not say so before we went!!
So.... 4 hours there and 4 hours back and one very disappointed daughter because the pony seemed nice. But who's going to buy a pony you can't try out? Well someone did as it was sold the next day! Good luck to them!
 
So what do you call someone who turns up to view and try a horse,- it turns out to be perfect to ride, for them, does all that they want etc then when they get off and have a look over the horse they find it is nearer teen - age than 8 years old, it has dodgy hocks that didn't show up in the pictures and concequently it is over priced by a grand or more. The prospective purchaser may then find themselves in a position where they might be called a Timewaster as they hum and ha over the animal and perhaps try to negotiate a reduction in the price.
I have been in this position, found the ideal horse that I loved then anomolies in the advert start leaping out at you.
You end up giving a half -arsed excuse for not agreeing to buy it whilst you go away to "mull it over", usually coming to the conclusion that you should really try to find ideal horse that does not have, manky feet, parrot mouth, obvious sweet itch etc etc and in the process get labelled "Timewaster"!

I think a lot of sellers who resort to such terms for prospective purchasers should look to themselves for the cause. Many are not being honest in their descriptions of the horse they are selling
I would never bother viewing horses where sellers use the phrase as I assume they are likely to be Timewasters themselves and are obviously rude ingracious people.
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Friend had a horse vetted which failed big time to the extent that the vetting was not completed. The next day the add was changed to read something along the lines of "re-advertised due to total timewaster who changed their mind despite horse passing a 5 stage vetting"
 
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