How keep on weight yet keep calm????????

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Have 17.1hh big shire x. looses weight rapidly when hunting, and at the same time blows his brains! What feed do you reccomend that will lessen the exciteability yet help maintain condition?
Would Alfa A oil chop and speedy beet be a good combination? (alfa a oil for some energy/condition and sb for main fibre bulk feed?) concentrates even 'the' non-heating types are not helping. I feel I need to cut out the concentrates completely. Speedi beet looks promising and have ordered a bag to try.
All sugesstions welcome. Thanks.
 
I have a skinny yet skitzo coloured that I dont want fizzing up. I feed either fibrebeet(by makers of speedibeet) or alfabeet instead of sugarbeet, baileys no4 and barley plus along with alfa a and paddock mix. x
 
My skinny tb who goes nuts even on things like linseed oil and baileys build up has put on weight dramtically, and remained sane on a large scoop of h+p cubes three times a day, plus a small scoop of top line conditioning cubes 3x a day. He also put on weight loads since putting him on 'equine complete' a new supplement at our saddlers.
Oh, and he gets chaff!
I don't know why less conditioner and more h+p cubes workd, but it does!
Plus ad-lib haylage.
Personally I would avoid mixes as I find they blow my boys brain!
 
I can recommend Copra Meal from Boomerang. It is derived from Coconut and comes in a powder meal which you soak before feeding. It contains a very high percentage of fibre and also oil so the energy is slow release. Horses do not fizz up yet put on weight and have fabulously shiney coats. This was recommended to me and I have used it to brilliant effect. Difficult to get hold of though as it is not advertised here and comes from Australia with one British Distributor. I can supply the contact number if you are interested but do not have it to hand
 
Look seriously into the soaked oats diet!
I've got a TB who lives on his nerves (so is slimline to say the least), yet blows his brain on most things, leading to a whole variety of bad behaviour!
I'd been dreading this winter as he was rapidy losing weight, but i did not want to have to compromise the ability to work him to 'feed him up'.
He's been on the soaked oats diet for about 3 months, and has already put on 70kg with no change in temperament - if anything he is much calmer.
I feed the soaked oats with alfalfa chaff, unmollased sugar beet and supplement with seaweed. As advised on the factsheet really (talk nicely to PF)!
Hope this helps. x
 
Id try feeding him nothing but lots of fibre and oil! So like you say, Alfa A Oil. Id probably go for Alfa beet rather than speedi beet and the Alfa Beet is more conditioning. Then maybe High Fibre Cubes along with a decent min & vit supplement and Soya Oil.
 
My horse looses weight hugely over the winter also and started early this season! Just over a month ago he was 420kgs, when he should be at least 520kg! I put him on Spillers cool mix and conditioning cubes but I found this combination sent him round the bend. I now feed Dodson and Horrells Build Up Cubes, Dengie Alfa-A and Veggie Oil. Since feeding this he has built his weight up to 490kg, and is not fizzy at all. I've seen a nice shine to his coat appear as well!
 
we have used Calm and condition from allen and page and its fantastic year after year, use it in the winter to keep that extra bit of weight on, never fizzes them up and does a fantastic job of keeping the pounds on
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my hubby has a shire x, same prob, we now use alpha a oil, speedi beet and a scoop of high fibre nuts and clop supplement, plus three qtrs bale hay , he is out in day in at night. he looks grt now. he does love his hay though
 
My Welsh C is a complete fruit loop and is subsequently not a good doer at all. I feed him Alfa A Oil, TopSpec balancer and Top Spec Conditioning Flakes for that extra condition. He has Speedibeet added in winter. That way I can get calories in him without high levels of sugar or huge feeds. Oil and fibre is the way to go for extra condition safely in my opinion.

He is no different in his temperament on this feed than none at all as he was not fed anything before I got him and he has not changed since having this feed other than putting on lots of lovely condition. Here’s how he looked at the end of last winter and he’d just turned 20 years old:

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My TB went absolutely loopy on Alfa A, never seem him so stressed/fizzy/scary.

Best way I can keep weight on is Hi Fi Lite and tons of soya oil, really done the trick for my food sensitive poor doer.
 
Thanks ever so much for your kind comments. He's had a bit of a hard life and whether that has contributed to his personality I'm not sure, I imagine it has as I know his breeder and she had him 5 years and he was always much calmer back then. He's much better generally now that I am managing his life as he likes it to be i.e. little change, good routine, constant companions, but he'll always be a fizzy ride as he really does love to go out and about and lives for speed and jumping.

He sire was Synod William, a famous Welsh C stallion and I'm trying to find out what his temperament was like as I know what his Mum is like as she's still alive and he's not very like her as she's very calm and laid back!

Credit to alfa a oil and topspec though as his coat is so shiny and almost pearlescent ...

:-)
 
I feed high fibre with speedibeet all the year round but am starting to supplement now with a rice bran/oil product to keep weight on..I have reached the conclusion over a number of years that cereals just are no good for horses and now try to avoid them. I have just got one who is skinny(will windsuck rather than eat!) so he will get aloe vera juice as a tonic and to sooth his digestive system
 
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