How low will someone sink to sell their horse? Dilema advice please.

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Well this is how low, the horse has arthritis in its back legs and a displaced pelvis its only 10, vet has told her there is nothing they can do apart from try to make him comfortable, the lady who owns it has it on two bute a day it is up for sale for under £1,000, she doesn't want the horse and has no interest in it since its been lame, nearly a year now. She has got some poor women, who has lost her horse recently interested in him, he is a nice 15.1 HW coloured cob. The women is buying him without a vetting. The lady who owns the cob is not very nice and very loud and opinionated and doesn't look after the horse very well. Dilema is do the other liveries tell the women who wants to buy him or leave well alone? None of liveries want the horse to stay with present owner and YM won't say anything apart from that she is not being honest and trading standards will have a field day with her if new women does buy and reports her, because after a week when bute is out of his system he will be hopping lame.
 
What you should do, it tell the woman to get the horse vetted. That way all you are doing is giving her very good advice. Trading Standards will not be much use in a private sale situation.
 
If she does get it vetted she will need to get bloods taken otherwise if she does buy and it does go lame a week later then they won't know why.

Personally, though, I'd get hold of the woman and tell her the truth about the horse and save her all the hassle and expense.
 
My priority would lay with the horse firstly, the new lady may buy the horse then be putting the horse through pain/stress trying to ride it totally unablivient to the problems, its not fare on the horse or the potential new owner.

Yes I'd recommend she has the horse vetted but then the poor lady is wasting her money when you all know the outcome, not a nice situation to be in really so I'd not like to be in your shoes.

I'd want someone to warn me if I was buying a horse with potential problems, even if they didn't know me.

The seller is doing what I'd call a ****'s trick (if you pardon the French) and you all know about it, I'd tell the seller (not in nasty way but let her know that you dont think its right) that you all know about what she's doing and hope the guilt encourages her to do the honourable thing.
 
Tell the potential buyer. Poor woman has already gone through the heartbreak of loosing one horse..
And for the horse's sake tell her. She will go to ride the poor horse and he will be in agony.. its an accident waiting to happen
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You are in a bit of a dilema, I wouldn't like to be in your shoes.

I do think you should consider the horse's welfare first and as others have said it would be awful when the buyer rides it etc

Would you consider ringing the vet that is treating the horse and leave a message with them (could do it anon? Hopefully the vet would then speak to the owner, even if the outcome is the horse is PTS at least it wouldn't be in pain.
 
TBH with you I have no patience with people that do not bother to get a horse vetted prior to purchase and then whinge when it all goes wrong. It is a stupidity that I can't get my head round. I know of a horse being sold as a brood mare that has been described as having slight back problems when it has kissing spine and OCD which is almost certainly hereditary. Sheer madness/cruelty to inflict a lifetime of pain, investigations and treatment on a foal knowingly.
 
further to previous reply I would speak to your YM and see what the position would be with her if you were to tell a potential purchaser about the horse prior to her purchasing it. Would this cause any problems between you and the YM?
 
I would in the interest of the horse tell the woman buying him beacuse if shes unaware of his problems she wont be giving him bute or any medication to make the horse comfortable and then the horse will be in pain.Out of the interest of the horse if tell her.
 
Simply do not understand people not getting horses vetted
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- i had a horse on loan once that was sold (so I was showing people the horse, but wasn't the seller) and the people that bought him did so for full asking price with no vetting... insane...

I'd probably suggest vetting... is hard tho.
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Tell the potential buyer. Poor woman has already gone through the heartbreak of loosing one horse..
And for the horse's sake tell her. She will go to ride the poor horse and he will be in agony.. its an accident waiting to happen
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Some people really will sink low
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I agree. You never know, She still might want the horse anyway. She cant be overly knowledgeable buying a cheap horse and expecting it to be perfect. Also just losing a horse and then not having the next one vetted is very silly or naive.
 
Do you know what the propsectivve purchaser wants the horse for? Is it possible she does know and just wants a horse to 'pet' - unlikely but possible.
Could you perhaps have a friedly chat and say how lovely that someone is willing to take on a horse and be prepared to bute and care for it with no return other than love.
 
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Well this is how low, the horse has arthritis in its back legs and a displaced pelvis its only 10, vet has told her there is nothing they can do apart from try to make him comfortable, the lady who owns it has it on two bute a day it is up for sale for under £1,000, she doesn't want the horse and has no interest in it since its been lame, nearly a year now...... after a week when bute is out of his system he will be hopping lame.

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Tell the owner to PTS. She's probably spent over £1000 keeping it for the lame year when she's not even interested. Its not going to get better and its going to be in pain if its passed on without the condition and necessary medication disclosing to the new owner. The horse has broken down with her, she can either maintain it as a pet or PTS. And tell the woman thinking of buying that the seller is trying to con the buyer into taking on HER responsibility.
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Where abouts in Essex as a friend of a friend is looking at a horse in North Essex and I could always drop a few hints
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Some of the liveries have told her to give it away as a companion. I told her the kindest thing was to have it PTS, when and if it actually gets turned out its pitiful to watch it trot or even try and canter round the field, its mainly in its stable 24/7 she has told other liveries that the vet has told her to walk him in hand for 10 minutes morning and evening if she is keeping him in his stable, but what does she do as she is too damm lazy to walk him in hand she gets on his back and she is not small by any menas and hacks him round the fields for 20 minutes, some people just never cease to amaze me. She has told so many different stories to different people it is like a standing joke at the yard as too what she is going to say next, the YM has spoken to her but she may as well have been speaking to the brick wall for all the good it did, the women is just a law unto herself.
 
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