How many of you have got away with stables without pp

When we had field shelters on skids, the local council wrote to us and told us we had to move the structure to another location on the land at least once a year, preferably twice, otherwise they would need PP!

At the same yard, the PP for the school was initially refused because the drawings had bushes on the outside of the school and apparently bushes (same ones as on boundary hedges) wasn't in keeping with the area :D
 
Honey08 said:
That's exactly what I did though, had a long consultation with the planning dept and they said everything should be fine. Paid the fee, put the plans in as theyd suggested, and it got rejected. I got permission for two stables (we had four horses and twenty acres), builder who owns 1/8 of an acre next to us got permission for six stables! The planners suggested I reapplied the following year for another two (at another fee) and the same the following year. It was onLy when I got really cross and told them that I'd either put a row of six ugly old lorries to keep my horses in or a row of stables in landscaped and nice tree planted area. I said I thought a nice block of stables would be less of an eyesore, but the lorries obviously wouldn't need planning, and that either way my horses were going in something for the winter... The planner compromised and upped her offer to four stables. We've also put two portables up that have been there for years now. Nobody has ever come to check or look at what we built. A lady up the road built an extra ten stables on her livery yard without permission. The council charges her business rates on them, but never noticed there was no permission, to her amusement.

I'd love to do things properly, I'm very much a "by the rules" type of person, but I think that our local council planners are rotten.
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Totally agree with your last sentence. I have come to the conclusion that if they make me move the stables (which will be on skids) I will put them in the garden where I would have no problem with pp. However would prefer not to do that as a huge amount of digging out required and they would block our lovely view. Planners are rarely reasonable - well not round here according to several of our horsy friends.
 
There is a lot of misunderstanding about mobile stables.
Some local authorities will not accept them and will ask for them to be completely removed.
All your neighbour has to do is to call the enforcement team at your local district council and they will send someone round to inspect them.
You are far better off going down the route of applying for planning permission because if you ever sell your property you can demonstrate that they are fully compliant.
 
Patchworkpony said:
Totally agree with your last sentence. I have come to the conclusion that if they make me move the stables (which will be on skids) I will put them in the garden where I would have no problem with pp. However would prefer not to do that as a huge amount of digging out required and they would block our lovely view. Planners are rarely reasonable - well not round here according to several of our horsy friends.
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Well yes, most people who have applications removed seem to feel victimised and as though the system is out to get them. Localism has made it a lot more simple to do things with regards to planning, and it has opened the door to far more public consultation whereas prior to that it really was a “one size fits all” type policy. The problem is that an application will require comment from several different departments including things that people simply do not think of – splays in visibility, drainage, flooding, ecology etc etc etc. If every person who applied for a one bedroom extension got it, there would be several hundred extra bedrooms in the LA and the schools, public transport etc etc etc would all have a knock on effect.

They are under pressure in terms of planning department man power, they have to come the right side of local plans, they have to make sure their files are clean for an audit, and LOL at the suggestion of local planners’ taking bribes, we are not in the 80s. I’m not a planner, I do a lot of work with a lot of different planning departments and if you read the rule book, you tend to get the result you want.
 
You'll have more to worry about than your neighbour if you do this. The planners only need to look at images from the sky to know exactly when your structure went up. Either get a mobile one and move it, or get planning.
 
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