How much did this cost??????

Just to add a few things, which were in our local paper but not in the H&H report...

The pony was/is part of a group which is used for conservation grazing. If one believes what is in the paper, she is also a registered Dartmoor mare. She is therefore not a wild pony, and has some value. H&H don't mention this which I can see could lead the OP to believe that this was one of the cross-breds from Dartmoor. I know that many people think they are worthless (I don't agree with this though).
 
It seems a nice little pony. Alls well that ends well then and well done to the rescue teams.

FWIW, I felt that the reaction of the OP was inhumane and that's pretty vile.
 
Yeah you will get shot down for this really? Of a cliff i hope
There are some real blood thirst beeps on hear. PTS mad they are.
Well relax enjoy your holiday just give big donation for you.
so money back in the pot now.Bet you will not do same.
 
Elsiecat said:
No life is worthless. None.
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You're entirely right.

Considering the 'Worth', when we balance it against; a) The animal's perceived value b) The risk to the animal which such a rescue would involve c) The stress which would be caused, to such an animal d) The risk to human life and safety, in the event of a pony panicking and injuring itself or it's rescuers, would be such that a clean and humane end would probably have been the most sensible answer.

Had there been a fatality or serious injury to anyone involved in the rescue, including the pony, then the cry would have gone up "Why wasn't the animal euthanised at the scene"? There were fairly serious risks involved, the rescuers accepted those risks, and came away with a result, but in the event of it going wrong, then we'd all be singing a different tune, I suspect.

Alec.
 
Wow, OP gets called all sorts of names but nobody has a bad word to say about someone who would leave a person appearing to be drugged to die in the street of hypothermia?

Strange world we live in.
 
Alec Swan said:
You're entirely right.

Considering the 'Worth', when we balance it against; a) The animal's perceived value b) The risk to the animal which such a rescue would involve c) The stress which would be caused, to such an animal d) The risk to human life and safety, in the event of a pony panicking and injuring itself or it's rescuers, would be such that a clean and humane end would probably have been the most sensible answer.

Had there been a fatality or serious injury to anyone involved in the rescue, including the pony, then the cry would have gone up "Why wasn't the animal euthanised at the scene"? There were fairly serious risks involved, the rescuers accepted those risks, and came away with a result, but in the event of it going wrong, then we'd all be singing a different tune, I suspect.

Alec.
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Great post Alec, no point in me writing it now :)
 
cptrayes said:
Wow, OP gets called all sorts of names but nobody has a bad word to say about someone who would leave a person appearing to be drugged to die in the street of hypothermia?

Strange world we live in.
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What? Where is that mentioned in the thread I think I've missed that as I haven't heard about it. Or maybe that might be in a relevant thread and not one about a pony being rescued? In which case why on earth would people be talking about it here? Make a thread about that subject and try not to derail this one. Makes no sense.
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Great post Alec, no point in me writing it now :)
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Yes, no point. Alex made good coherent argument so really no need for you to strain yourself trying ;) :D
 
cptrayes said:
Wow, OP gets called all sorts of names but nobody has a bad word to say about someone who would leave a person appearing to be drugged to die in the street of hypothermia?

Strange world we live in.
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I don't understand? And I did actually call for help once for a guy who was passed out drunk or something on Parkers Piece. Stayed until they got there as well.

Alex, you are correct re the rescue team of course. I would just expect them to judge the situation and make their own call on it tbh, them being the experts.
 
Leviathan said:
I am with fatpiggy on this one
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Mmmmm. Where are you going to draw the line for medical care, then Leviathan? Presumably somewhere below a person who appears to be drunk or drugged, but above someone like yourself who broke an arm voluntarily indulging in the second most dangerous sport (horse riding) that there is?
 
cptrayes said:
Mmmmm. Where are you going to draw the line for medical care, then Leviathan? Presumably somewhere below a person who appears to be drunk or drugged, but above someone like yourself who broke an arm voluntarily indulging in the second most dangerous sport (horse riding) that there is?
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This pony did not ask to fall over the cliff, no one forces people to inject, sniff swallow drugs they do that voluntarily. That is their choice drugs are for mugs.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/list...072513#photo-title=Cave+diving&photo=31860000 not in top 5 here?????

Would you go down a dark road and go up to a person on drugs or drugged to their eyeballs and help???? I think not.....................

You don't see the rescue services patrolling the streets to save them do you??? no their job is to rescue those in precarious situation or life threatening accidents like this pony.


So I would rather our taxes go on the emergency services, the police can and do deal With the rest.



http://listverse.com/2009/06/18/top-10-incredibly-dangerous-sports/
http://toptencollections.com/top-10-dangerous-sports-in-the-world/
 
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Leviathan said:
This pony did not ask to fall over the cliff, no one forces people to inject, sniff swallow drugs they do that voluntarily. That is their choice drugs are for mugs.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/list...072513#photo-title=Cave+diving&photo=31860000 not in top 5 here?????

Would you go down a dark road and go up to a person on drugs or drugged to their eyeballs and help???? I think not.....................

You don't see the rescue services patrolling the streets to save them do you??? no their job is to rescue those in precarious situation or life threatening accidents like this pony.


So I would rather our taxes go on the emergency services, the police can and do deal With the rest.



http://listverse.com/2009/06/18/top-10-incredibly-dangerous-sports/
http://toptencollections.com/top-10-dangerous-sports-in-the-world/
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what about those who are drugged up due to having their drinks spiked, or those who make a mistake and try it the once, what about the people going through a tough time in life who make terrible errors of judgement? and those who misjudge their ability to cope with alcohol levels? those that smoke? obese people? Or have you never made a mistake and learnt form it.

I pray with all my might that my girls never get caught up in the drug scene but I also pray that someone would help them out if they were in need for any reason.

we all take different paths through life and we all need help from time to time
 
What are we on hear people nobody in their right and i say right mind should leave any person or animal to struggle or suffer.It is supposed to be a free country and every one is entitled to their own opion though we seldom get it.can we pls stick to the topic of the pony x
 
twiggy2 said:
what about those who are drugged up due to having their drinks spiked, or those who make a mistake and try it the once, what about the people going through a tough time in life who make terrible errors of judgement? and those who misjudge their ability to cope with alcohol levels? those that smoke? obese people? Or have you never made a mistake and learnt form it.

I pray with all my might that my girls never get caught up in the drug scene but I also pray that someone would help them out if they were in need for any reason.

we all take different paths through life and we all need help from time to time
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Quite.
 
I know someone on drugs could of climb up the cliff missed by rescue men saving tax payers thousands almost falling to their death.Give the pony a magic mushroom who tripped over a stone who had to be rescued by zebadee and the magic round a bout gang and all lived happily ever after
 
cptrayes said:
Wow, OP gets called all sorts of names but nobody has a bad word to say about someone who would leave a person appearing to be drugged to die in the street of hypothermia?

Strange world we live in.
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Well you got the reaction you wanted people reacting to the drug comment above cptrayes.


Me I think now this thread should go back to that discussion its about, a pony who had the misfortunes to survive a horrid fall.
 
cptrayes said:
Actually, my point was about some pretty vicious name calling of the OP, that I found very distasteful.
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Human nature/mob mentality - one person expresses an opinion that almost everyone else disagrees with, and once that fact becomes obvious (some) people can get a wee bit nasty safe in the knowledge that they won't get a hard time from the majority.
 
A perfect subject for discussion.

was it the best course of action for the pony.
Was the rescue too high risk for the humans.
Was it financially worthwhile given the resources available.
Was it valuable as a training excersise.

All good points, worth considering.
My opinion is identical to Alec's, but didn't bother giving it initially as I figured it pointless given most people just wanted to tell th OP how vile they were.

Why is it that this forum is becoming increasingly incapable of discussing a subject without slinging muck.

Alec made a very intelligent basis of facts to discuss.
Waste of time here mate, intelligence, facts and discussion are not often found on HHO.
 
ribbons said:
A perfect subject for discussion.

was it the best course of action for the pony.
Was the rescue too high risk for the humans.
Was it financially worthwhile given the resources available.
Was it valuable as a training excersise.

All good points, worth considering.
My opinion is identical to Alec's, but didn't bother giving it initially as I figured it pointless given most people just wanted to tell th OP how vile they were.

Why is it that this forum is becoming increasingly incapable of discussing a subject without slinging muck.

Alec made a very intelligent basis of facts to discuss.
Waste of time here mate, intelligence, facts and discussion are not often found on HHO.[/
QUOTE]No body gets to give there opions on H&H.I think a lot of people on hear are BLOOD THITSTY.Dont you think the rescue team would have considered all your points before attempting anything, they are not thick are they do you think they are thick ! .If the waste of money bothers you give a donation it may be you or your family stuck one day.
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