How much for a mongrel!!

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I've just seen two 'cockerpoos' advertised for £650 :eek:. They're mongrels! Do people really pay more for a mongrel than some pedigrees go for?
 
Spiritedly said:
I've just seen two 'cockerpoos' advertised for £650 :eek:. They're mongrels! Do people really pay more for a mongrel than some pedigrees go for?
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Friend of mine paid nearly £1,000 for a labradoodle b/c husband is allergic to dogs . . . husband is allergic to the labradoodle so she's been gifted to a friend.

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I paid £20 for our ****** springer (shih tzu x lasa apso x springer spaniel) I don't know how people can justify the prices they ask, although all the while there are people willing to pay their outrageous prices I guess they'll just keep charging it.
 
All my mongrels so far over the years have been either free or cheap (the cheap being the amount for a neutered, vacc'd and wormed rescue).
I can't get my head around the fact that people must be going out and paying these stupid prices :o
Latest advert I seen that had me :o was sprolletter puppies (I guessed it was Springer spaniel X collie X setter) and they were £250 a pup :o
 
Mine was free and she is advertising the rest for £200 mostly to weed out the numpties who want a big, hard dog but she doesnt actually want that much.
 
Strictly speaking, they're not mongrels - a mongrel is a multi mix due to (usually) accidental mating and nearly always healthier and longer lived than pedigrees or first crosses.That said, I believe up to £250 is afair price for a cross, depending on the breeds.
What annoys me is the high prices, which is insulting to 'proper' breeders who ask realistic prices for their breed. Some people questioned the £600 I asked for my Golden Retriever pups a few years ago, though that was the average price and the parents had the relevant tests before mating and the pups were wormed, insured and health checked.
 
mollymum said:
Strictly speaking, they're not mongrels - a mongrel is a multi mix due to (usually) accidental mating and nearly always healthier and longer lived than pedigrees or first crosses.That said, I believe up to £250 is afair price for a cross, depending on the breeds.
What annoys me is the high prices, which is insulting to 'proper' breeders who ask realistic prices for their breed. Some people questioned the £600 I asked for my Golden Retriever pups a few years ago, though that was the average price and the parents had the relevant tests before mating and the pups were wormed, insured and health checked.
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I've always gone by the definition that a mongrel is a cross between different breeds.
I agree about the prices though, I'm all for setting a price high enough that the chavs who are looking for a status symbol are weeded out from the serious would be owners, but to ask for more for a cross breed than a breeder would ask for a pedigree is ludicrous, and many of the people buying these puppies seem to believe they are getting a recognised breed :confused:
I wonder how much I could get for German Shitso Spaniels? I may have to get smaller mutt a ladder and ask vet about having his castration reversed :p
 
I get annoyed with the silly names they give them, like they are an actual breed. Saw a dog on my ride this morning, and the woman told me it was a pugalier. No, it's a cavalier cross with a pug, and I bet you spent far too much money on it as well.
 
mollymum said:
Strictly speaking, they're not mongrels - a mongrel is a multi mix due to (usually) accidental mating and nearly always healthier and longer lived than pedigrees or first crosses. parents had the relevant tests before mating and the pups were wormed, insured and health checked.
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I do wish people would stop perpetrating this myth about crosses being healthy. It's rubbish. The only way to guarantee healthy dogs is to perform all the relevant tests and to only use dogs with excellent results. I'm surprised that you, as a breeder who says they health tested, are happy to write what you wrote. :(

A cross is the crossing of two pedigree breeds. Any further is, be it an F1 anything to a pedigree or cross, a mongrel.
 
Given that a proper mongrel is probably a tough little customer, I cannot see why anyone wanting a crossbred/mongrel would not want to just go to a shelter and pick one.Also, it makes me angry that the KC Assured Breeders actually include breeders of these mongrels among their ranks.
My very first dog was a mongrel,great little man who lived a very long and active life as best mate and partner in anything I wanted to do,he was unlike his brother or his mother ..a true mix up. Sometimes he was doing obedience and tricks,sometimes hunting rats ..and aged fourteen he mimiced a foxhound out on long rides on the Downs.He died of Lepto ,because back then innoculations were rarely done and unheard of by my father. Heaven knows how old he would have lived if vaccinated.
 
Ditto everything cinamon toast said.

There is a lady i know locally has two"cockerpoos" (bought from a puppy farm in wales :mad:) that she breeds from...

Last year she sold the pups for .... £750!!!! Of course no health tests etc etc.

She has just had this years litter... but wasn't sure if they we CPXCP or CPXbichon frisse and she let her bitch mate two dogs...

:mad:
 
Julia0803 said:
Ditto everything cinamon toast said.

There is a lady i know locally has two"cockerpoos" (bought from a puppy farm in wales :mad:) that she breeds from...

Last year she sold the pups for .... £750!!!! Of course no health tests etc etc.

She has just had this years litter... but wasn't sure if they we CPXCP or CPXbichon frisse and she let her bitch mate two dogs...

:mad:
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Make the tax man aware of her extra "income";)
 
Julia0803 said:
Ditto everything cinamon toast said.

There is a lady i know locally has two"cockerpoos" (bought from a puppy farm in wales :mad:) that she breeds from...

Last year she sold the pups for .... £750!!!! Of course no health tests etc etc.


:mad:
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It's probably because they're pedigrees....at least that's what she was told :rolleyes:
 
I was flabbergasted when I saw poodle cross anything was more expensive than the pedigree themselves!!

My other bug bear is, I have 7 month old chocolate poodle and I'm always asked "what's he crossed with"

My brother & his wife have Spanish water dogs and they are always asked the same!!!!
 
Interesting this as I have been wondering about these crosses.

Some of them dont seem like a bad idea if its for a reason. I could be mistaken but I think I read about Lab x Poodle being bred as guide dogs etc which did not moult, ages ago I admit.

If these crosses do the job will they eventually become breeds which you will be able to register and show. Can they be registered as part breds the same as horses so these crosses are tracked.

I am guessing that all of the breeds started off this way at some point in the past. Why cant it still be done.
 
mollymum said:
Strictly speaking, they're not mongrels - a mongrel is a multi mix due to (usually) accidental mating and nearly always healthier and longer lived than pedigrees or first crosses.That said, I believe up to £250 is afair price for a cross, depending on the breeds.
What annoys me is the high prices, which is insulting to 'proper' breeders who ask realistic prices for their breed. Some people questioned the £600 I asked for my Golden Retriever pups a few years ago, though that was the average price and the parents had the relevant tests before mating and the pups were wormed, insured and health checked.
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you will find many pedigree dog breeders will be horrified by your statement that cross breeds/mongrels are healthier, they are not. A well bred pedigree dog is a healthy long living one, and you will find that a breeder as my self can trace a dogs pedigree back many many many generations and know everything there is to know about every dog, from the health of it, temperament and even the colour. Cross breeds and mongrels do not have that level of history and if you put together two dogs with genetic problems you will get a very very unhealthy sickly short lived dog. It is one of the worse and damaging myths in dogs and very untrue. There are very bad breeders out there and there are exaggerated faults in dogs that need to be addressed, but them aside, pedigree dogs are healthy dogs
 
dressagedreamer said:
you will find many pedigree dog breeders will be horrified by your statement that cross breeds/mongrels are healthier, they are not. A well bred pedigree dog is a healthy long living one, and you will find that a breeder as my self can trace a dogs pedigree back many many many generations and know everything there is to know about every dog, from the health of it, temperament and even the colour. Cross breeds and mongrels do not have that level of history and if you put together two dogs with genetic problems you will get a very very unhealthy sickly short lived dog. It is one of the worse and damaging myths in dogs and very untrue. There are very bad breeders out there and there are exaggerated faults in dogs that need to be addressed, but them aside, pedigree dogs are healthy dogs
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So what is your opinion on the Kennel Club giving Assured Breeder status to these crossbred breeders?
 
rockysmum said:
Interesting this as I have been wondering about these crosses.

Some of them dont seem like a bad idea if its for a reason. I could be mistaken but I think I read about Lab x Poodle being bred as guide dogs etc which did not moult, ages ago I admit.

If these crosses do the job will they eventually become breeds which you will be able to register and show. Can they be registered as part breds the same as horses so these crosses are tracked.

I am guessing that all of the breeds started off this way at some point in the past. Why cant it still be done.
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Unfortunately the problem with crosses is you can't guarantee which parent the puppies will take after, although labradoodles were bred to be non- moulting I have met several that do moult.
 
Spiritedly said:
Unfortunately the problem with crosses is you can't guarantee which parent the puppies will take after, although labradoodles were bred to be non- moulting I have met several that do moult.
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all dogs shred hair unless they are bald LOL. one reason apart from dog hair why people are often allergic to dogs is dust mites which live in the dogs hair which is why it's good idea to wash the dog regularly to get rid of the mites.
 
EAST KENT said:
So what is your opinion on the Kennel Club giving Assured Breeder status to these crossbred breeders?
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they will be registered in the ABS because they will be also breeding pure bred dogs, that is what gives them membership. If you know of anyone claiming they are on the ABS and ONLY have cross breeds they can be reported to the KC and they will be investigated and their status removed
 
I have 2 dogs - a Border Terrier who's brain damaged (thick as 2 short planks and is the softest gentlest beast on this planet!) and a Chihuahua X JRT. She's 3/4 Chihuahua and 1/4 JRT. She's an interesting individual! She has a wonderful temperament but the feistyness of both breeds come out to play often. She looks like a sturdy Chihuahua. She has dispatched of chickens and you could train her to do anything BUT she does have health issues because of her cross. She has dainty feet with whopping great JRT nails which she isn't heavy enough to wear down & takes 2 vet nurses and a vet to clip. She has JRT teeth in a Chihuahua jaw line - had to have loads removed to fit in her jaw. I paid £200 and got a BOGOF blue eyed bengal snowleopard kitten :D I was happy with this price. (I did want a doberamn but was she was more ideal for the mid-terrace I was living in at the time!). I have seen this cross for sale for £600. :eek:
 
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rockysmum said:
Some of them dont seem like a bad idea if its for a reason. I could be mistaken but I think I read about Lab x Poodle being bred as guide dogs etc which did not moult, ages ago I admit.
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But as with any cross, there are no guarantees, so you might get all the pups moulting, some of them moult etc. Just because one parent doesn't moult, doesn't mean the pups won't.
 
Kaylum said:
all dogs shred hair unless they are bald LOL. one reason apart from dog hair why people are often allergic to dogs is dust mites which live in the dogs hair which is why it's good idea to wash the dog regularly to get rid of the mites.
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But some are classes as non- moulting as there is virtually no shedding. My ex was fine with my parents yorkie for this reason but our two dogs used to set his asthma off :(
 
Spiritedly said:
But some are classes as non- moulting as there is virtually no shedding. My ex was fine with my parents yorkie for this reason but our two dogs used to set his asthma off :(
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Yes I know but they do shred I have a Scottie which is a non moulting breed and have had Westies and Boarders. They all shed but not as much as other breeds. So the cross between a lab which shreds like crazy and a poodle which does not shed as much really is that a good thing? As that's what they are marketing.
 
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