How Much for Ex Racer? 3k?

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Hi - Just wanted opinions please. Do you think this price tag is a reflection of a fair market price?

Light bay 16.2 - lightly raced (3 times) but didn't make the grade.

No known injuries but VERY green. Doesn't work into a natural outline in all three paces though does show some potential that it would? No show successes and literally just out of field with a couple of months ridden training...

Over to you....... i think its a bit unrealistic and would suggest maybe 1500 - 2000 is abot the market price.

Asking this on behalf of a friend that i don;t want to see ripped off.
 
depends a lot on the quality of the horse and its potential to go on in another sphere.

People shouldn't expect every ex-racer to cost under £1k but equally it is impossible to value a horse on the info above!
 
Ummmm hate to tell you but a friend who is a trainer has just sold 3 of his ex racers, about the same age as yours for between £450 and £800 and he said he was very lucky to have got that.
 
I paid £800 for a 15.3hh 3 year old dark bay TB (inc transportfrom Yorkshire) . Offers an outline in walk and trot and occasionally in canter but vey wobbly :D Slight twist on one fron tleg but otherwise good confo. On the other hand my 16.3hh was on the market for £5k but had his double clears at novice and disco and has better confo - I was eventually given him by my dad as he took him as part of his bonus :D I think you need to look at how many times he has raced,when did he start racing,question any big time gaps between races, how much retraining has happened (personally I would prefer to go from scratch) and whether he has hurdled or just been on the flat - a big generalisation but I have found the flat horses to be cheaper than jumpers.
 
I know the pony I have now originally sold for £3k straight of the track. He only pointed a few times as a 4/5 year old, but didn't make it. 16.2, no injuries but green.
 
I know ..i agree with all of you... its ridiculous!

i agree with the first comment that people shouldnt expect them all to be under 1k - for a good quality sane horse i'd definately up it.

I just wanted someone to tell me we weren't insane for thinking this price was truly unrealistic. i've not had a lot to do with thoroughbreds but do watch the prices quite avidly and know that ex racers at the mo are sadly ten a penny it seems.
 
The horse is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it - and there are some buyers out there with deeper pockets than others!

However, based on the info you have given, an average price would be somewhere around 500-1000 - however definately more if he has good confirmation, good potential, and perhaps just not been restarted correctly reflected in his green-ness.
 
It depends v much on the horse I think. An average ex racer still sound and with good legs would prob be around or well under the 1k mark. Though, if the horse in question is particularly nicely put together, shows fab paces or a really great loose jump could fetch more (though not alot more I wouldn't have thought as so many people dismiss them or think all ex racers should be super cheap).
Would need really excellent pics to get this over though and not have the horse dismissed as just another ex-racer.
 
lol.. offered them for free kind of says it all about the price of this horse i think.

Does anyone have any good contacts for reputable ex racer dealer type yards in or around the midlands?
 
I bought my ex racer for 900. He'd hurdled, PTP and novice chased. He was 6th in the greatwood hurdle at cheltenham one year (beating rooster booster). He earnt nearly £60k.
He's worth every penny.
 
Ex racers are ten apenny - you can pick them up for £500 easily.

That said it really depends on the quality of the horse. A real head turner, with substance, good movement and spot on conformation will easily fetch £3K+ out of the sales. Admittedly they are few and far between, but without seeing good quality pictures and video of the one you refer to it is impossible to say if it fits this catagory, although I suspect not!
 
Would have to say it depends entirely on the horses potential. I paid nearly that for an ex racehorse some years ago, it had done a little since it had finished racing and had what I believed to be potential, he didn't let me down, he went from pre novice to jumping double clear in his first advanced in less than a year. He was also a really lovely boy and inbetween I use to take him unaffiliated showjumping with great success!! If the horse suits your friend and money isn't a problem then it's worth what someone is prepared to pay for it! Just because its an ex-racehorse doesn't make it worthless, there are always going to be some worth more than others due to temperament or talent!
 
I definatley wouldn't be paying more than £1000 for any ex racer tbh.... £3k sounds a hell of a lot for what you just described
 
HollyJ said:
lol.. offered them for free kind of says it all about the price of this horse i think.

Does anyone have any good contacts for reputable ex racer dealer type yards in or around the midlands?
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Holly J, I am 30 mins off M5 J7.
At the moment I have:
4yo 15hh filly, last ran a month ago, only blemish slight buck shin(this will disappear 100% with time) - £400.
3yo 15hh gelding, raced several times last year, gelded oct, out grass since, seriously good looking horse - £750.
I also have a 4yo 16.2hh filly, totally blemish free, show looks, lightly broken, great to ride and do, serious potential - £2700 negotiable to right home.
My website is www.ukbloodstock.com and think the last 2 are on there.
Also know of 2 ex broodmares that would need bringing back into work (have ridden both and would be great Riding horses), they are around 10yo.
All are out of work at moment, can loose them in school and maybe get on if someone around (me=too heavy for the smaller two, husband = 2 broken wrists).
 
From what you have said it certainly seems the horse is overpriced considering some ex-racers are being given away, however it depends on the horse!

My mums horse had similar stats to the one your friend is interested in, My mum paid £1,800 back in 2008, he had no retraining and was brought straight from the field. He seemed expensive as an ex-racer at the time but this is what he has turned into:-

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He has been placed in all of his BD attempts bar one.

I paid 2.5k for mine last year, he was younger then my mums and had done some retraining and could show an outline at walk,trot,canter. This is what he has turned into:-

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He is also the one in my sig.

My late mare, had been in training but not raced and I brought her in 2005 for £2,600 and this is what she became:-

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So while on paper it seems as though we massively overpaid market price for our ex-racers really they were (are) 3 total bargains as all 3 could/can compete at affilliated level with the best of them and have more scope then I or my mum will ever need.

However it does depend on the horse, your friend may get a similar type for much cheaper if she goes to a trainer direct :)
 
Firewell - beautiful horses. A credit to a lot of hard work by the looks. I will say though that they appear to have a lot more natural presence than the one we looked at but possibly a lot more work would change this.

vikijp - thanks i will take a look at your website later on today.
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Have a look around a bit more, vikijp horses sound nice :)
I paid this much for my horse but he only pony raced so also did eventing and show jumping on the side and I think that was a reasonable price for him.
 
I think it is wrong to assume that £3k is too high for ANY ex-racer answering this description. It all depends on a number of things:

Conformation, breeding, temperament, soundness and movement.

Whether or not a horse works in an outline is irrelevant. I have yet to meet an ex racer that I cannot get to work correctly over it's back into a nice gentle contact within a very short time. So long as there is no conformational defect, any horse will be able to work this way if trained correctly.

If this horse is a good stamp of a thoroughbred with plenty of bone, and moves exceptionally well with big floaty paces, as well as having excellent conformation, breeding, clean legs and passes a 5 stage vetting, then I think £3k is a good price. If, however, this horse is average, then I would say £1k to £1.5k.
 
I brought Lady as a two year old off the track, raced five times won once, so will be worth a little bit more as brood mare potential as a winner.

£900, we over paid but she had the temp i wanted. A year on she works in an out line correctly in walk and trot, hacks alone and in company showing potentail over coloured poles and rustic fences.

Valued at between £4-4.5K as a 3 year old having done the above. She is Dark bay and 16.1hh. She has masses of potential.

The horse you are looking at could well be worth 3K but you can pick up cheaper horses with the same potential. Alot of money for it. I'd expect something a little more established for that money.
 
Hi

We train and therefore see ex racehorses and we sell them for between 500-1500 depending on what sort of ride their potential injuries vices etc but i dont think you should pay a penny over 1500. We have a mare 6yrs tweeked her tendon but its staright and only needs a month of tlc and will be perfect but she has previoulsy sj hunted fantastic hacking only raced 3 times stunning and 16hh and only wanting 700 for her so dont get ripped off.
 
Wagtail said:
I think it is wrong to assume that £3k is too high for ANY ex-racer answering this description. It all depends on a number of things:

Conformation, breeding, temperament, soundness and movement.

Whether or not a horse works in an outline is irrelevant. I have yet to meet an ex racer that I cannot get to work correctly over it's back into a nice gentle contact within a very short time. So long as there is no conformational defect, any horse will be able to work this way if trained correctly.

If this horse is a good stamp of a thoroughbred with plenty of bone, and moves exceptionally well with big floaty paces, as well as having excellent conformation, breeding, clean legs and passes a 5 stage vetting, then I think £3k is a good price. If, however, this horse is average, then I would say £1k to £1.5k.
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I was reading through the posts and got to this one - this is exactly what I would have said. I have a mare for which I paid £1200 from the field as an 8 year old - superb confo, really elegant paces, temperament to die for. I took her to a dressage a week after I bought her from the field and was offered £2500 for her. I refused the offer - wish now that I'd taken it as she has been very ill this year (well last year actually!) - but nothing to do with racing, so hopefully we're onwards and upwards this year!
 
I get all my horses off the same trainer some are free but then some i have paid up to about 3.5k for that was few years back tho, Many of his horses are schooled and taken xc or sponsered ride to give them a better chance at new life all of his horses have been what he says they are and he will tell you about any vices ect so you know, these are some of them we have retrained... you could pick a exracers up for about £250 now from a sale. Like someone said there worth what you pay for them.

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