How much for this mare as a broodmare??

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im toying with the idea of selling Spider as a broodmare and just wondered how much we should advertise her for? having never bought or sold one before.

She is a 16.1hh Holstein X TB, full sister to Carousel Quest (4th & 1st at Burghley) Evented up to PN herself placed Intro. Produced a lovely colt May last year, took first time, no problems what so ever with the pregancy and birth, did it all herself perfectly, she was text book with the birth and with him after. He is a lovely little colt with excellent confirmation and temprement - he can be seen.

Any view, advice, price help would be great...Thanks
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Ill find a pic of him and her in a mo too!
 
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Why are you thinking of selling her as a broodmare? Can she still be ridden and competed?

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Yes she can still be ridden/competed but she think she is more suited to this job to be honest she did a smashing job with Incy and loved being a mum and eating lol she is very greedy!!
 
Am I missing something ... how old is she?

WHY are you selling her as a broodmare unless she has an injury or something that stops her from competing! She looks lovely. There are plenty of lame or horses that are not able to be ridden being broodmares.... seems a waste if there is nothing wrong with her.

Her broodmare value depends on how old she is really. She is well bred.. thats a bonus.
 
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Am I missing something ... how old is she?

WHY are you selling her as a broodmare unless she has an injury or something that stops her from competing! She looks lovely. There are plenty of lame or horses that are not able to be ridden being broodmares.... seems a waste if there is nothing wrong with her.

Her broodmare value depends on how old she is really. She is well bred.. thats a bonus.

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The plan was always to sell her once i bought her back into work because I dont feel i personally get on with mares as such ridden i prefer my TB geldings to be honest and the buzzier type! Im extremely busy with work at the moment so ideally need a quick sale and as she was so good having Incy and she does prefer to sit in the field having a baby then work! I thought for her happiness this would be the nest home for her as a broodmare rather then a competition horse.

Also she is 8
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If she is able to be ridden you may get more for her as a ridden horse. How old is she and could she go further than PN? Did you say she was a full sister to Carousel Quest or just by same stallion?
 
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If she is able to be ridden you may get more for her as a ridden horse. How old is she and could she go further than PN? Did you say she was a full sister to Carousel Quest or just by same stallion?

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I understand this but i am after a quick sale, also he slight lazyness has got worse since having a foal! Almost like she has had a taste of a few years off and rather likes that better!! She is CQ's full sister, same breeder.
 
Plenty of geldings out there to be ridden. Why, on a breeding board, do we see producing the next generation as a second class job?
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Plenty of geldings out there to be ridden. Why, on a breeding board, do we see producing the next generation as a second class job?
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Exactly what i was thinking!
 
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A full sister to Carousel Quest? Keep her, breed from her, sell the foals. That mare is a banker. I can't believe you'd even try to sell her.

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Unfortunately we are at livery so it cost's quite a bit to keep her, if we had our own place we would do that without a doubt!
 
Breed from the best, ride the rest; with her breeding she'd be a valuable asset to anyone wanting to breed eventers. Sadly the Brits seem to be reluctant to pay decent money for a broodmare no matter how nice or how well bred, but I think she sounds worth asking a decent price for
 
She looks lovely and sounds very laid back. I have no idea on price though though when you see ad for broodmares they do not normally cost very much. Does she have any injuries or health issues?
 
Her dam isnt the same as Carousel Quest? Unless BE is wrong anyway.

I think you'd get more money selling her as a riding horse
 
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Her dam isnt the same as Carousel Quest? Unless BE is wrong anyway.

I think you'd get more money selling her as a riding horse

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CQ's dam is her grandmother so exactly the same linesas CQ, plus same breeder. She also has the added bonus od having canival drum lines.

Im not particually interested in gaining an extra £1,000 or so, she is made for this job and loves it she was an amazing mum an dloved being in the field not doing much! So this is what I wish for her to do, plus she will hopefully breed some crackers hopefully for the future.
 
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Her dam isnt the same as Carousel Quest? Unless BE is wrong anyway.

I think you'd get more money selling her as a riding horse

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CQ's dam is her grandmother so exactly the same linesas CQ, plus same breeder. She also has the added bonus od having canival drum lines.


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You can't advertise her as full sister to him then, as she's not!

I think you could get 2.5k for her, not in foal
 
I havent advertised her yet! So I havent advertised her as that, I will state exactly how she is related to CQ when I do the ad.

Ive seen a few broodmares for £2,500 with breeding not half as good as hers also they are around 12yrs old. I will advertise her for alightly more then this I think, thanks for your opinion on price though.
 
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I'll give you £100 now ;-)

what about loaning her to a breeding home and then maybe reassessing it all once shes had another foal?

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I have thought about that but then I still own her and am not in a position after that to take her back unfortunately so it needs to be sold really. Or loan with view to buy.
 
i think she is a lovely mare but unfortunately i am trying to move away from event breeding towards dressage breeding otherwise she would have been a mare i would have been interested in.

please do not be offended by people saying she is only worth 2500 as a broodmare as tbh in this country not many people are willing to spend decent amounts of money on broodmares, even though imo the mare is far more important than the stallion, therfore as others have said you will get more for her as a riding horse.

she has indeed got good breeding but 2 years ago i picked up two broodmares, pink papered, headstudbook graded, warmbloods, one by donnerhall for 5500 euro for the pair. if you advertise her as a broodmare, it is a sad but true fact that people will not pay top dollar for her
 
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Ive seen a few broodmares for £2,500 with breeding not half as good as hers

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But what is her breeding? I had a look on allbreed and there seems to be no history for her granddam Vickidora (if I have the correct mare)? Who is she? What is she?

For me, *good breeding* is about both sides of the coin and in my own breeding programme the dam line is just as important, if not more so than the sire line. So what is your mares damline if you dont mind me asking?
 
The good breeding on the dam side is the fact that her grand mother is CQ's dam so obviously proven to breed a 4* horse. Also he grand sire is carnival drum and her sire is carousel. I would class that as very good breeding on both sides from my point of view.
 
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i think she is a lovely mare but unfortunately i am trying to move away from event breeding towards dressage breeding otherwise she would have been a mare i would have been interested in.

please do not be offended by people saying she is only worth 2500 as a broodmare as tbh in this country not many people are willing to spend decent amounts of money on broodmares, even though imo the mare is far more important than the stallion, therfore as others have said you will get more for her as a riding horse.

she has indeed got good breeding but 2 years ago i picked up two broodmares, pink papered, headstudbook graded, warmbloods, one by donnerhall for 5500 euro for the pair. if you advertise her as a broodmare, it is a sad but true fact that people will not pay top dollar for her

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Thanks for you reply
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I do understand everything you have said and I dont think we appreciate mares for breeding rather than riding enough to be honest. I will advertise and see what happens.
 
This is a tricky one,
Spider is a lovely type of mare and she has produced a lovely foal too, add to the the CQ connection and there is obviously a lot in her favour as a breeding mare.
That said, she herself, I'm sure you will agree, hasn't really lived up to expectations under saddle. That may be just a personality clash between you and her and under different circumstances she may have produced the goods? Who knows? Also do I vaguely remember that she had her hocks operated on for suspensory issues (I apologise hugely if I'm wrong on that).
I just think at the moment if you are advertising as a broodmare a serious breeder will really want to find out all the extras before parting with a lot of money, so I would say 2.5/3K really I'm afraid. In your shoes I would advertise as a ridden horse with good broodmare potential down the line, then you would see a better price tag.
 
I found the problem, allbreed has Vicki Dora spelled as all one word when its two words. Now I can see half of the TB side and yes it is nice. It would be nice to see the full pedigree though and might be worth your while to complete that so people can find the information easier?
 
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