How much for this type of horse?

The pony I have currently on loan is a 14.3/15hh irish coloured cob mare who is 7 I think. I have hunted her since the beginning of the season and despite our total lack of brakes she is great. She finds it quite hard jumping out of deep mud which is a shame because it gets very wet down here!! She is easy to do in all ways. However, she is exceptionally strong even out exercising and has to be exercised in a 3 ring gag with reins on the bottom ring. How much would you expect her to sell for? Her owner is asking £6k but I think that she knows I'd like to buy her so is asking as much as she can. I can't afford that!! She hasn't done any flatwork since I've had her and I'm not sure she's done a huge amount before that. Any ideas?
 

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the owner is asking a completely insane amount of money 2.5k absulute max I would have said! assuming her breeding isnt exceptional

ETA our RS just bought a 14.2hh beutiful pony always snaffle ridden can jump just about anything he is faced with and not strong at all, he was 2k
 
£1.5k........... I may be being generous
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Overpriced. Just to put in perspective, my pony was a 14.2hh cob, exceptional hunter would jump anything, not strong at all (hunted in rubber snaffle) and very good on the flat, good unaff sjing record and placed showing, and I sold him for 3k....wouldnt expect you would get anywhere over that even with prices now...
 
Most people who want hunters want them to be able to do something else out of season I'm finding, so although she's a fab hunter that should seriously restrict her price... that and the fact she would be too strong for most children but possibly a little small for most adults?? That also narrows the market and should make her less money again...

On another note, have you got any pics of her yet??
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she sounds quite like the pony I ride on lessons, who I love to pieces. I think 6k is far too much for something that is very strong and hasn't done a huge amount of flat work, so I'd say about £2,500 with tack especially as she isn't the safe coloured cob suitable for everyone that most people seem to want these days.
 
Sadly, there are a lot of well off people in the horsey market who are ill informed on horse prices and willing to pay over the odds for one, which is why some people feel they can stick any old price on it, and it usually sells.
 
I have just sold a 7yo BWB mare who has competed BD upto medium level dressage with scope for advanced for £6750!
and my 14.2 coloured cob X ISP who does BSJA 1.10, and BE PN, not strong and tons of ability cos me a mere £2000.

so i definatly feel that this horse is over priced by a mile!
 
Thank you everyone!! Now how do I tell her owner that she isn't worth what she's asking?

I have £5k in savings and that is IT!!

Do I offer £3.5/£4k as a starting point and then say I can go up to £5k with her tack and all her bits and bobs?

The pony has got a great reputation for jumping out hunting but also has a huge reputation for being brakeless.

What shall I do?
 
I would tell her you cannot afford more that 2.5k and leave it at that (maybe add something on for tack) she is trying to emotionally blackmail you. I doubt she would be able to get anywhere near what she is asking, or even anyone to look at that price, let her advertise at that and find for herself that she is way over the mark.
 
If you don't mind putting in lots of work or the horse being brakeless and real she is the perfect horse for you offer £3500 with tack etc anything higher and you really are paying miles over the odds even if teh horse is right for you!
 
If you can ride a pony which sounds quite difficult, then you open up the market for yourself. There are lots of really nice cheap ponies about who are not overpriced as many children can't manage them.
I would pay a little more than market value for the mare in your position, because she is such a known quantity, but would say her value inc tack is no more than 3 - 3.5k. This does also depend on how useful she is at other things. At 7 you can still school and reeducate her.
Don't forget to get her vetted though, just because you know her doesn't mean there isn't something lurking there.
 
I would offer 2k as a starting point. The fact is that all you have is a pony who can hunt but not a lot else really, and would be too strong for children. Explain that to the owner. She might not like it, but then watch her try and sell unsuccessfully for 6k for a while. I expect then she'll be a bit more reasonable. You might have to pay over the odds a bit to get her, but at 7 you still have time to get good flatwork and manners on her.
 
The pony would be an ideal boy's hunting pony - boy's don't really mind the lack of brakes nor minimal flatwork.

Her owner used to event at the top level and so knows her horses pretty well. I don't know how much she bought her for either though. I think offering her way below the asking price is a good idea and also pointing out that yes she has a great reputation for being a good hunting pony but that she also has an even bigger reputation for having no brakes.

Perhaps I am being silly and should just forget about her and get something else which is bigger and not as expensive!!
 
Defo talking crazy money!

I have a top allrounder / SJ mare for sale at the moment, with excellent bloodlines, 8yr old, jumped upto newcomers, qual. Blue chip finals 2007, 100% all ways safe and sensible and she is much less than that.
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If you love her, paying a bit extra might not do any harm. But if you have the money to spend, you could get something MUCH nicer.

I don't think the fact that owner evented at top level means she knows how to price a horse - I know there are a few people who seem to add 10k onto the price of a horse just because its been owned or ridden by a "name." She might well just be trying her luck on, knowing you want the mare. Stick to your guns!
 
High as prices can be at times, and with a premium because you may want her in particular, what you've described isn't worth anywhere near 6k.

I have a gelding 15.2 winnings to med dressage, perfect manners hunting (snaffle mouth at all times will leave the field nicely when asked and has given others their first safe day out hunting), loves x/c, perfect to hack in the heaviest traffic or open spaces, does ride and lead with ponies, would go sjing and never been sick or sorry, very glamourous suitable for a novice rider or pure dressage home.

He's not for sale because he's fabulous, but I reckon I'd struggle to get 6k for him.

If you have 5k to spend and want something nice, go out looking, I think you'll find plenty who do at least as much as this mare at around about 2.5k
 
I agree that you can get a lot more for 5k, if you are considering putting an offer in start lower than 3.5k. You should offer a max of around 2.5k and leave it at that she is obviously trying to get as much money out of you as possible and if you offer around 4k then it has worked.
 
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Do I offer £3.5/£4k as a starting point and then say I can go up to £5k with her tack and all her bits and bobs?

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Good grief no.

Offer her £2k and then sit back and wait. Never tell anyone what the maximum is you can spend. And if you have that sort of money - well to be honest, you can get something very, very nice - and dress it.
 
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