How much is too much?

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How much would be too much for a 17 year old schoolmaster? no lumps or bumps, sound, fit and in work, competes and wins, eager and generally a lovely sort. Comes very well recommended.
 
Sounds like a highly desirable horse and if he is kind and forgiving yet still competative then there will probably be quite a few interested people.

I'd happily pay £5k based on the brief description
 
catroo said:
Sounds like a highly desirable horse and if he is kind and forgiving yet still competative then there will probably be quite a few interested people.

I'd happily pay £5k based on the brief description
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Yes I would say kind and forgiving. Does everything beautifully if you ride him correctly. Push button sort. He is so fit I suspect that he would go on for years to come barring unforeseen injuries.
 
Horse or pony?

We sold a 13.2h PC pony that was a super all rounder, lots of trophies in all disciplines, would have easily done a BE80, and a real trustworthy pony for £2k a few years ago. It was more difficult to sell him because of his age than I thought, even though he was very youthful. For a horse, up to £3k perhaps. And you have to think that you may well be (or should be) his retirement owner.
 
Too much would be anything over the money you can afford to lose, a horse of that age may still be fit and well with years ahead but equally it may not and at this age insurance cover will be limited so that needs to be considered, you may be his last active home so the purchase price needs to be able to be written off.
That may not be a real answer but it is a personal thing, what one person can afford to lose another would not even consider paying for a younger horse, it is all relative, if the price is within your price range and the horse ticks all the boxes he could be a great investment even if he appears expensive.
 
He is a pony but a big full up fella, we would be his last home as I wouldn't personally sell a pony any older or even at his age. Can I write off the money? Not sure I can really however I have a young field ornament so have a very different perspective now - I'm not sure age matters, yes it can mean they are more likely to get age related problems but having recently spent £5k at the vets on a now unrideable 10 year old pony, then even if he can only be ridden for four months then that's double the amount of time I was able to ride my last one :/ Can I also afford to be left with a field full of aged and/or broken ponies either?! Hahaha - queue slightly hysterical and manic laughter...
 
Find out what it would cost and if any exclusions on him insurance wise. Has he got a price on him and you think it's too much? At 17 I would be hoping for 3 good years, more would be a bonus and of course you could get lucky and he goes for 10. I sold my 16yr old horse to her loaner and I said they could make me an offer to include tack. They paid £1000. To be honest I would have taken £1 happily so I was very happy. She has had a lot of problems with them but nothing to do with her age, all have been accidents (she never had an single issue with me in 14 years!) and has been an amazing horse for the daughter to ride so I don't think they regret it at all. She's in her 20s now and still highly competitive.

Really it's all down to luck. My perfect horse died at 7 with absolutely no warning. I've got a 14yr old for my daughter to ride who touch wood hasn't been a bit of bother.
 
I had a 15 hand lwt cob who had worked in a riding school from 3 to 13 yrs old and I then had her , she was ridden at riding club level till she was 26 and then hacked till she was 31 with no problems...she started tripping and vet said she had ringbone so we decided to retire her . she was sound in the field and had 4 years retirement and she was put down age 35, so some horses can go on for a long time ..
 
Actually as a pony the age would put me off less than it would a horse - there's lots of top showjumping ponies still going well into their 20s. Obviously nothing is guaranteed but with a pony at 17 you could easily get another 10 years of good work.

Also if it has stayed sound and healthy under consistent work for this long, then there's not likely to be anything too nasty lurking.

Is it a top level pony club schoolmaster? Competing at 1m-1.10m?

If so I would say 5k would certainly not be outrageous.
 
He competes very well at 85cm, X country, dressage, hunts, absolutely fit as a fiddle, 14.2hh, no insurance exclusions, no claims, price £3k inc full wardrobe.
 
That is a good price especially with tack and rugs as well which if good quality could be work about 1k anyway.

Will you get him vetted just to check there is nothing about to start going wrong?

Battytwoll said:
He competes very well at 85cm, X country, dressage, hunts, absolutely fit as a fiddle, 14.2hh, no insurance exclusions, no claims, price £3k inc full wardrobe.
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Sounds like he's worth the money and like you've already made your mind up. Go buy him and fingers crossed you have many years of happy memories together!
 
sounds like a good buy BUT please make sure you have him vetted with a vet of your choice..if not in your local area ask your own vet for recommendations or alternatively ask on here. good luck
 
Get him bought! He sounds lovely. I miss our old pony, he was my favourite equine ever, and did so much for my stepson's confidence. I wish we could have kept him, but he was too good to retire, he deserved to be someone else's no 1, and we couldn't afford to keep him either.
 
For a fit pony with no pre existing conditions I would probably pay £1500 - £2000.

My friend sold her ex racer at 19 to a friend for £1, (She bought him for £1000 at 17) as she was going to college. The girl who bought him still has him. Despite crap feet, a string halt and a touch of arthritis probably from a long NH Racing career, she still rides him, does little clear rounds, hacks, goes to the beach, canters through the plantation, he even went on a baby hunt (Didn't jump though just took it gently). He is just about to turn 27 and completely sound, well looked after, fit and healthy! :D
 
I bought a 17 year old schoolmistress mare last summer for daughter at pony club - I thought 2.5k was a lot for literally just the horse but she has been worth every penny as she is totally trustworthy and can do anything daughter wants. She passed a 5 stage vetting with only a query about her hind leg action but as the vet said if she was 6 years old he d say walk away but as shes managed for 17 year years without serious problems he could see no problem. Go for it say I!
 
Yes I will get him vetted, if only for insurance (if I can get him insured), I'm not a big fan of vettings but I would be more cautious on this occasion due to his age. Looking forward to seeing him again, I've also got a couple more to see but this boy ticks so many boxes :)
 
I paid 3.5 for a 14 year old school master with one eye and beginning of arthritis.

Obv your guy is older but has 2 eyes.

I felt mine was overpriced for the current market BUT I already had him on loan and to replace him with a younger l/2 eyed/ no arthritis model would of added 10k to the price.

He's 18 now and I'm jumping him smaller now (Novice BE last summer) as he's throwing stops in at 1m+ so I don't think his Tilden/steroids are enough anymore but if I'd known the pleasure he would give me for those 4 years I'd of remortgaged the house for him.

Not very helpful I know but basically if he's worth it to you then there's no price too much IMO
 
Mmmm difficult to comment on price TBH without a picture of the horse or knowing more, but unfortunately his age would count against him and personally I would consider £2500 tops, £3000 if all-dancing & all-singing.

Having said that OP, if you like him and think he would suit then have a punt and make a silly offer - as a lot of people might be put off because of age/insurance issues, and you might get a really nice chappie at a good price!
 
Battytwoll said:
Yes I will get him vetted, if only for insurance (if I can get him insured), I'm not a big fan of vettings but I would be more cautious on this occasion due to his age. Looking forward to seeing him again, I've also got a couple more to see but this boy ticks so many boxes :)
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PetPlan will give full cover up to 25 (I think) as long as they are insured before age 20 - don't know what the premiums are like though!
http://www.petplanequine.co.uk/insu...mpukoKOp-AuTWoyrZF9DPhoCEZHw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
 
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