How much would you knock off the sales price for sarcoids?

[BoggyGirl]

I have a approximately 16h Clydesdale cross cob gelding (still growing). Rising 5. Hard to see where the cob part is he is extremely chunky full mane/ feather/ Clydesdale colourings. Super to do and a lovely nature. Very nice and easy. Professionally broken then turned away to mature. Green as not done much due to age but safe. I just got back on after months and doesn't need ridden everyday, non spooky etc. He has had multiple sarcoids removed by laser recently. He has none now left but what would you think this does to the value? They didn't bother me as were not in any areas near tack and mostly very small. I had them all just removed in one go.

Just wondered what people would pay for him?

 

[Lamehorses]

Personally after a bad experience I wouldn't touch him with a bargepole, sorry

 

[tallyho!]

Having had a good experience with sarcoids, they wouldn't worry me.

So there you go - you first two replies at polar opposites - you don't know until you test the market. You may find someone who has no issues, you may find some who have had lots.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Sarcoids don't bother some people much at all.

Personally, as I am in the middle of dealing with a complex set of sarcoids that my homebred has been throwing up over the past few years I would not touch a horse with sarcoids with a very long bargepole.

Sorry .

 

[paddy555]

sorry but very long bargepole for me as well.

 

[Melody Grey]

I think yours is the best sarcoid situation you could have; small, removed, not near tack and in a young horse. I have bought with sarcoids at a reduced rate, though they have been seriously ‘project’ in nature, so I’d expect a less drastic price reduction if it’s otherwise a promising horse.

 

[Snowfilly]

Are you sure they were sarcoids? Clydes and their crosses are very prone to squamous cell carcinoma and having dealt with that once, I’d want full vet results and details on hand to be sure it wasn’t.

For sarcoids, the horse would have to be approximately half market value for me to consider it.

 

[Bellaboo18]

Are you sure they were sarcoids? Clydes and their crosses are very prone to squamous cell carcinoma and having dealt with that once, I’d want full vet results and details on hand to be sure it wasn’t.

For sarcoids, the horse would have to be approximately half market value for me to consider it.

I was also going to say half market value to even consider it

 

[Goldenstar]

One ,£1500 but I would not consider a horse with multiple sarcoids

 

[Surbie]

Nope. I haven't got enough horsey experience to have the first clue about sarcoids. I wouldn't go near one with a history of them, though yours sounds lovely.

 

[Lady Tinseltime]

If all sarcoids removed do you have to admit to them

 

[Mrs. Jingle]

If all sarcoids removed do you have to admit to them

? Do you have a portrait hanging in Dodgy Dealer's gallery by any chance?

 

[Kaylum]

Too cheap and someone will buy and sell on sarcoids undeclared.

 

[ycbm]

He would be worth a lot more if you could keep him for a year and prove the sarcoids did not grow back. But then you're stuffed if they do.

I would buy him knowing the sarcoids were recently removed, but at about half his market value without them.
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[asmp]

Looking at a local selling site, having sarcoids doesn’t seem to have made much difference to the prices the owners expect (although whether they get that price is another matter).

We bought a horse not realising he had them but they were banded years ago and haven’t reappeared.

 

[Asha]

I had a promising well bred 4yo . Who had a couple of flat sarcoids on the inside of his front leg . I knocked £5k off the price and had a queue of people wanting to see him . He sold to the first person to see him and at at asking price .

 

[Sanversera]

I wouldnt reduce the price at all. sarcoids removed from my horse several years ago. good result. your horse doent have sarcoids they have been removed.

 

[Errin Paddywack]

I think I would ask full price with full disclosure and be prepared to negotiate down. If you advertise him too cheap as someone else said, he could be bought by someone who will sell him for a big profit by not declaring the sarcoids.

 

[webble]

Kiki vetting came up with pitting of the skin and an old scar and the vet warned of the potential for/past sarcoids, the seller knocked £500 off. This was last year he was 4k to start with and a project

 

[ihatework]

I’d want the horse to have gone a good year sarcoid free, before considering purchase on a multiple requiring laser.

Last one I bought with sarcoid I knocked £1500 off the asking price

 

[BoggyGirl]

Thanks all really helpful. The breeder thinks he is still worth a lot. I am in no hurry. The vet was sure they were sarcoids they didn't all need removing as some were tiny. It just was the same price due to the anaesthetic so I had them all off. I would never sell without disclosing properly. Many thanks

 

[Ambers Echo]

Dolly had a sarcoid not near tack which we removed at the end of the season then sold. We put it in the ad I’m sure many buyers were put off, but we still had queues of people to view or to buy unseen and she sold immediately at full asking price. We knocked about 3k off what we would have asked for - ie 15k instead of 18k. We could probably have asked for more. Seems mad that she was worth that but a look at similar ponies on horse quest shows she was well within the norm for her type.

 

[ihatework]

Thanks all really helpful. The breeder thinks he is still worth a lot. I am in no hurry. The vet was sure they were sarcoids they didn't all need removing as some were tiny. It just was the same price due to the anaesthetic so I had them all off. I would never sell without disclosing properly. Many thanks

If he is a desirable type - then sarcoids are one thing plenty of people will compromise on, especially in this market.

The one I last bought was pre-crazy market and he was a huge unproven oaf.

He sold easily as a proven event horse, with sarcoid, wind op and funky hock X-ray in the 5 figures

 

[Ambers Echo]

Incidentally I asked my vet what he thought was reasonable to knock off and he said in his experience either people won’t go near or want a huge discount or they aren’t that bothered and see it as just another of the many possible things that can go wrong. So his advice was just disregard the first group and price for the 2nd group. So knock off say a grand for possible future treatment costs which wouldn’t be insurable and a bit more for the increased risk but don’t slash the price as there really isn’t any need to do that.

 

[Snowfilly]

Incidentally I asked my vet what he thought was reasonable to knock off and he said in his experience either people won’t go near or want a huge discount or they aren’t that bothered and see it as just another of the many possible things that can go wrong. So his advice was just disregard the first group and price for the 2nd group. So knock off say a grand for possible future treatment costs which wouldn’t be insurable and a bit more for the increased risk but don’t slash the price as there really isn’t any need to do that.

I think it probably has to do with if you’ve picked up the pieces on a horse when they weren’t easily treated. I used to be blasé and then saw a friend struggle through with a horse that couldn’t be ridden, multiple ops and testaments, thousands of pounds in vets bills and eventually giving up and retiring said horse for a year before putting him down. Expensive and heartbreaking.

 

[Wheresthehoofpick]

Exactly this. IME People are either not bothered at all. Or won't go near them.
Particularly if they are the type that can be lasered off and have been.

I have had a bad historic experience and won't buy a horse with them. Still regret a horse I said no too because if this policy. But he had multiple different sarcoids which required Liverpool cream and would have made him more than I could afford.
I was staggered how many people I know say oh yes my horse has them. Or we have lasered/ banded them. Particularly in expensive competition horses.

 

[Ambers Echo]

I think it probably has to do with if you’ve picked up the pieces on a horse when they weren’t easily treated. I used to be blasé and then saw a friend struggle through with a horse that couldn’t be ridden, multiple ops and testaments, thousands of pounds in vets bills and eventually giving up and retiring said horse for a year before putting him down. Expensive and heartbreaking.

Yes it makes sense that people who are scarred by their experiences would say never again. But the same could apply to any health issue. Which is why I think if you’re selling a horse with a sarcoid you just need to accept that it’s more an issue of a smaller buying market than a price issue.

 

[windand rain]

I wouldn't buy one knowingly with multiple sarcoids have had the odd one develop a large bandable one which once gone never came back but lots of little ones spells trouble to me Sorry