How much would you pay for 1* Eventer 10 year old?

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I am looking at buying a new horse and I am an amateur and only weekend rider due to work commitments and therefore would like a horse that I can easily pick up on the weekend and event that doesn't need educating but simply ticking over in the week on full livery.

I thought that a not too flashy and hot 1* with a consistent double clear record that is being placed in at the teens at 1* with dressage in early 30s would be a good bet for me nipping around novice events safely on the weekend and taking sj and to elementary bd. I am probably buying more performance than needed but a good BE record is seductive when you want a consistent horse that doesn't need training for fun and hassle free riding on the weekend!

I have found one that fits the bill and is thoroughly sound post vetting and extensive X-rays. Slightly unnerved by the amount I have negotiated to buy at and therefore in need of some confidence that not paying over the odds! How much would you guys pay for that kind of horse?
 
probably 15k as sounds like the ideal junior horse so very hot market!!

Genuine and easy ones up to 20k! 10 is not old and decent dressage scores with consistent double clears are expensive horses, maybe not as much as one that could go on up the grades but decent competitive schoolmasters are getting into the expensive market! And especially ones that are easy to deal with etc. :)

of course, a junior horse could fetch a LOT more than that but not my market so don't know range now :)
 
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Conservatively, £15k? But could double that easily enough with the right boxes to tick- if it hunts nicely, is super safe, can be picked up/ put down, etc.

There are bargains to be had but only with big sacrifices (often on long term soundness, or what is needed to keep them 'on the road')...
 
You are describing the sort of horse that many well off parents want to purchase for their teenagers to safely JRN.
In general you would be looking at a minimum of 12k, but even at that price there would likely be a compromise.
For something extra smart, easy and competitive at 1* it is conceivable you may need 25k depending on who is selling.
I appreciate 12-25k is quite a wide range but in reality that is how a horse in this market can go.
 
Just commented your other post :)
10 is not old at all ! Could easily move up the levels .
If never going to go higher than 1* but complete schoolmaster could carry your gran round & get double clear id say your looking at no less than 15k

If its going to be capable of more & safe your looking at approx 25k

If its capable of more but quirky id day approx 20 k ish :)
 
This is super useful thanks guys! So defo on the right price backet! I guess paying less than 10k you are looking at inconsistent record at novice or soundness issues or that private sale with untapped ability. All of which are a nightmare or hard to find and require training!
 
A nightmare in so far as if you can only ride in the week then it is not ideal to have an inconsistent weekend and if you can stretch a bit further for consistency then it is worth it?
 
Prob won't go up the levels as dressage isn't flashy enough and a warm blood with Heinz 57 so not a big mover
 
ropa said:
This is super useful thanks guys! So defo on the right price backet! I guess paying less than 10k you are looking at inconsistent record at novice or soundness issues or that private sale with untapped ability. All of which are a nightmare or hard to find and require training!
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if its any help my friend has one for sale for less than 10k (£6500)
a really lovely horse and "person" to deal with , he looks like anyones ride and can be picked up from time off and be the same
but has a slightly inconsistent sj record at novice (more reliable 100)
and has had time off due to a small operation on a leg (not sure about more info on that) but he is now sound and has been back out eventing and is currently proving a very mannerly hunter

i would bite her hand off for him i think he's lovely but i can't afford another horse
 
Got a friend, who is also selling a very consistent double clear 15 2 9 year old machine at novice, also done bd, bsja and pony club with an teenager rider, who just jumps on at weekend for offers over 20k
 
ropa said:
Prob won't go up the levels as dressage isn't flashy enough and a warm blood with Heinz 57 so not a big mover
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Flashy movement isn't everything. A really accurate test with a supple horse will get you mid division, but double clears at that level, and especially within the time are a big bonus!
 
Super thanks all. Thinking double clear within the time is the thing to aim for, for happy weekend safe eventing without the fear of a run out or digging the toes in and having to find your stirrups after a long week at work! Personally the test for me is just the warm up for the fun stuff but I do like a bit of bd in the side too! Not that done a lot if bd but guessing if doing mid 30s at intermediate/ 1* you can hope to be in the ribbons at elementary (if you don't follow a warmblood!)?
 
Congrats on the upcoming purchase! Sounds like a great decision and a super horse. Look fwd to seeing reports and pics. I would think that if he's getting mid-30s DR at Int, then you're knocking on the door of a ribbon at BD, but may need a couple more marks. So a 35 at BE would be 65% and, in my extremely limited experience of doing BD, you're more likely to get placed at around the 67% mark. Obviously varies from venue to venue, judge to judge, and either way, it's definitely not a million miles off!
 
cundlegreen said:
Flashy movement isn't everything. A really accurate test with a supple horse will get you mid division, but double clears at that level, and especially within the time are a big bonus!
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I've commented on your other post but I have to say that I totally agree with this....with bells on!
Dressage isn't about big movement & flashy paces it's about the correct training.
 
All I would add is be very very sure it is the type that can just bumble along in the week and produce the goods when you want a lot that have been produced by pros to sell are unlikely to. once things start to go wrong the value may crash ,I say this because what you are spending obviously is making you nervous.
 
Hi just one thing to add, a horse competed by an amateur that has a consistent record of double clears with that rider at novice level, is likely to fetch more than one competed by a professional rider.
 
popsdosh said:
All I would add is be very very sure it is the type that can just bumble along in the week and produce the goods when you want a lot that have been produced by pros to sell are unlikely to. once things start to go wrong the value may crash ,I say this because what you are spending obviously is making you nervous.
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This. If you're going to keep it in a professional program where you have good support this is perhaps less of an issue but I'd still be wanting a horse doing as close as possible to the job I want it for. Full livery is fine but it doesn't denote any specific level of work. I know some yards where the pro and well supervised working students do all the riding and are well qualified to keep any horse up to standard. Others, even very posh ones, the riding is all done by minimum wage grooms and can best be described as uneven.
 
Mare sounds great and agree with people on her price but like some just a cautious word on how you progress once the money is handed over. The mare maybe straightforward now because she is ridden well by her present rider amateur or pro but this may well change if you are not upto scratch ( sorry don't mean to doubt your ability ). Like others make sure those riding/schooling her for you during the week are also good riders and you ride some where near their level. Some horses will change character once they realise the person on top is not placing them at every fence the way they are used to.

I wouldn't worry about the non flashy movement. If she went unsound or developed colic or suffered an injury and couldn't compete how would that affect you financially , if you plan to insure for loss of use then thats easier but if not you will have lost a lot of money.

Basically if you can afford to lose every penny, can assure that she will have the same amount/quality of work as she is now… buy her. If she is competing at this level with mid 30's dr and double clear and only ridden at the weekend... who and where is she because I'll buy her ! Good luck don't forget photos.
 
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