How much would you pay for this pony?

I wouldn't touch another headshaker so definitely get that confirmed. It's very distressing for both horse and owner. Are welsh cobs susceptible to pssm? I only ask as a friend bought a native ex broodmare for a reasonable price. The vets bills for various things have far exceeded the cost of the pony with pssm being diagnosed a few years ago.
 
I wouldn’t class her as a head shaker at this stage. Could be lots of reasons. Saddle would be my first guess or the straight rubber bit, they can be too
thick if horse has a large tongue. Try a double jointed snaffle maybe.
 
Flowerofthefen said:
I wouldn't touch another headshaker so definitely get that confirmed. It's very distressing for both horse and owner. Are welsh cobs susceptible to pssm? I only ask as a friend bought a native ex broodmare for a reasonable price. The vets bills for various things have far exceeded the cost of the pony with pssm being diagnosed a few years ago.
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There appears to be a strong genetic link with a type of muscle myopathy but there's no definitive research yet, just a lot of hearsay and symptomatic horses. In a mature horse that's been out of work and is now working you should notice if something is off, but sadly type 2 sort of PSSM is a total lottery.
 
I have had a good look through the owners FB page and have seen the pony with the dentist, farrier, loading, in the arena, jumping and the backing process. Cannot see any head shaking on any of the videos. I absolutely will ride her again if the price is right and I have my partner there too at the yard so he can let me know how she goes when he sees her ridden or his daughter rides. It is just the waiting now to find out what she is wanting for her.
The owner is away but I don’t like being in limbo! I may send her another message asking about full loan and purchase price.
 
HaffiesRock said:
I have been out of the buying game for 7 years so have no idea what the prices for ponies are currently.

I was not looking but have happened upon a pony who is 100% what I am looking for and is for sale. However, the owner has asked me what I would be willing to pay for the pony. I have responded honestly by saying I have no idea as it has come out of the blue, so thought I would ask on here.

Pony is approx 14hh (i've been told 14.2hh but she absolutely is not), Welsh Cob aged 9 years old. Has been a broodmare most of her life and had her last foal weaned about 2 months ago. She was lightly backed before her last foal was born and in the last few weeks has done some quiet hacking and a little clear round jumping show (30cm and 40cm I believe). She appears very honest and I hacked her last week and she was great. Walked out confidently, lead the whole way, great in traffic and walked, all be it enthusiastically, through an open field. A couple of very minor spooks but overall felt safe.

She is in need of some weight and muscle post foal but was such a sweet pony. Was mostly easy to catch (walked away briefly but then stood to be caught), walked in nicely, stood quietly to be groomed and tacked up and for mounting.

There was some head shaking when riding (vertically) so I want to know more about that. She had teeth done last month and is currently in a straight bar rubber snaffle. There were a lot of flies about too but its something I want more info on for definite.

She needs a physio and a saddle fitting prior to any real work. The owner was planning to sort her out with physio and bring her on before selling but I think Id want her as a blank canvas.

She is barefoot and sound and up to date with everything.

Any thoughts on her value? Also any considerations I need to make as she's an ex broodmare? One thought I have is that she may be more forward once at a better weight and fitness and she may become more pony than I am wanting. I also need to find out why she was a broodmare for so long instead of a ridden pony as I have been burned by one like this before (pelvic issues that turned into random broncing once back in ridden work).

Any advice much appreciated and I also appreciate putting a value on a pony from my brief description is a 'how long is a piece of string' scenario!

Thank you in advance for any responses.
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What reason have they given for selling?
 
The owner is in the horsey business. She’s a trainer/instructor/backing etc. The pony was always meant to be a buy and sell on but then she was in foal so she’s now a year down the line and still in the same place.
 
HaffiesRock said:
The owner is in the horsey business. She’s a trainer/instructor/backing etc. The pony was always meant to be a buy and sell on but then she was in foal so she’s now a year down the line and still in the same place.
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In which case I'd suggest that the pony has already cost them more than they intended in keep and vets bills for foaling. So they would have to put more money in again to produce her for sale.
If she's put the ball in your court she can't reasonably be offended by whatever offer you make.
I'd suggest 2-2.5k if she passes the vet.
You know you like her, but from the point of advertising her, a 9yr old that's recently backed and hasn't done a lot, isn't the easiest sell on paper, but that's in your favour right now.
 
P.forpony said:
In which case I'd suggest that the pony has already cost them more than they intended in keep and vets bills for foaling. So they would have to put more money in again to produce her for sale.
If she's put the ball in your court she can't reasonably be offended by whatever offer you make.
I'd suggest 2-2.5k if she passes the vet.
You know you like her, but from the point of advertising her, a 9yr old that's recently backed and hasn't done a lot, isn't the easiest sell on paper, but that's in your favour right now.
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That is a good point actually. I didn't think of how the advert would read with her being 9 and green as grass.

I will keep you posted.

Thanks
 
HaffiesRock said:
The owner is in the horsey business. She’s a trainer/instructor/backing etc. The pony was always meant to be a buy and sell on but then she was in foal so she’s now a year down the line and still in the same place.
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When I have something that I bought for one reason and it needs to be sold on I always make sure its been out and done something, usually a couple of ridden shows and perhaps PC, if I can find a rider. The only things that are sold having done nothing away from home are just backed and not really ridden away. TBH if she is buying to sell on why hasn't been somewhere because unless it's a disaster it will always make it more saleable. Depending on when the foal was weaned I would have started at least six weeks ago preparing it for sale, because that is where the profit is, ready for the Easter market.

You are buying something that has never done any real work, and its never been out and about as ridden, this would be a big ? if you are hoping for a child to ride it unless they are not a novice rider and can actually avoid trouble.
I always try and balance what it is now, what I want it to be, how much work/time I am prepared to put in and then factor in how much money can I lose if it doesn't work out.
 
The pony would be low level for me and my partners daughter to ride when she is back from uni. I will see what she comes back with and go from there.

Thank you
 
So she has come back with mid to high 4 figures, which I am not prepared to pay. More surprisingly was my partners response of 'but she has potenial'. He is the most risk adverse man I have ever met but is also not willing to put his hand in his pocket for that price 🤣

I have messaged her back to politely decline and wish her well but I am a little sad. My sensible side is pleased I have gone with head over heart though.
 
That sounds a little over optimistic on the part of the owner. She may drop the price in a while. Especially if people come to view a 14.2 and find a 14.0 hh headshaker! In the meantime you can have a look around, you may find something else, and also work out what you might be able to pay for the pony if it really is your hearts desire.
Everyone selling horses seems to suffer from time wasters if their ads are to be believed, so perhaps she will get a large number of these and decide it’s much easier to sell to you!
 
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