How much would you pay (sorry everyone)

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A friend of mine is looking at a pony to buy at the moment - it wasnt really officially up for sale, however the owners were of the opinion that if the right home happened to come along they would sell.

Pony is 14.1hh, 16 years old, cob type, done pony club, hacks (100% bombproof in traffic), could do a lovely dressage test, round of SJ/XC etc. professionally schooled on a regular basis, safe with kids (ie switches off with a beginner/nervous rider), advised that it has never been sick/sorry or lame

What would you pay for a pony like that (I'm asking as i cant really see anything on horsemart/quest that matches the description, and I'm struggling to come up with what i would pay due to the age of the pony) - I know what the asking price is, and in all honesty i think its a good price - however friend wants my opinion and i just want to double check i'm not completely wrong - oh and all tack and rugs would be included apparently - good quality stuff i believe.
 
He's safe as houses, good as gold and will compete sweetly to boot- even though he's older he's probably going to be about £2k+, maybe £3k? If I were a mum looking for a pony, I would genuinely pay that much for him. It may be money down the drain as he will only get less valuable (money-wise) as he gets older, but the confidence he'll give the children will be completely priceless.
 
We sold a lovely 13.2 version of that, aged 17 in September for £1800 with lots of tack and rugs. He had done and won everything at PC and was very genuine. His age put a few callers off, but the first to try him bought him. He didn't seem old in any way, and I fully expect him to have another 8 yrs before he started to slow down.
 
Honey08 said:
We sold a lovely 13.2 version of that, aged 17 in September for £1800 with lots of tack and rugs. He had done and won everything at PC and was very genuine. His age put a few callers off, but the first to try him bought him. He didn't seem old in any way, and I fully expect him to have another 8 yrs before he started to slow down.
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Thanks for this, now i think £1800 is a bargain for what you have described - would the fact that the pony i'm talking about being bigger put a bigger price on its head - in that I mean it is able to carry more - (I sat on it, I'm 5'10" and it took my leg up very comfortably - and i do have loooong legs) when a child gets on they look fine too...
 
Welshie Squisher said:
2000 due to age, I would have said 3000 if 9 or 10, but as good as he is, they do de value with age and a buyer must consider the selling on value :)
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Well i'm not sure selling on value is something they're thinking about, they are planning to keep the pony for life if they did buy it, and if something were to happen where they couldnt keep it - they wouldnt be looking for the money - and in all likelyhood would go back to the current owners... do you include all tack and rugs in that £2000 you would pay?
 
Found this on horsemart....


Piebald, Gelding, 7 years, 15 hands

Perfect 1st horse for someone to learn on or get back into riding again. Easy, straight forward, quiet steady ride

Fantastic hack alone and in company been ridden on very busy main roads with nervous 11 year old girl. Great in big open spaces – used to all farm machinery tractors, lorries etc and doesn’t bat an eye

Been on beach and sponsored rides and has hunted. Always gives a safe, sensible, confidence giving ride looking after his rider at all times

Snaffle mouth with 3 flowing paces. Done all local shows, gymkhanas, sj, xc, dressage and working hunter classes

Very well mannered good to do in and out of the stable. Very sweet natured gentleman who loves to please and uncomplicated to do in all ways

Very laid back, easy going temperament. Always has his ears pricked forward, not a nasty bone in his body

The sort very hard to find and would suit all the family. Good shoe, catch, clip, box travels very well alone or with company. Loves all the fuss and attention, will stand on the yard all day long

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£2,500
 
If they want him for life, then £2.5k.. Maybe I'm out of touch with NL prices, but for ponies I don't think age is such an issue. Any less than £2k and he's a complete steal or something's wrong with him!

There's a real prevalence of underpricing going on on this board- if you're buying you need megabucks, if you're selling you'll get peanuts. Ponies who are sane and safe and easy are worth a lot, regardless of age especially if they're a nice height like 14.1hh. And 14yo 14.2hh sold for about £6k recently in our PC because he'll go round PC novice/ intermediate til the cows come home DC on a decent dressage and be safe and kind. If he was a horse, he'd be worth half that!
 
temple_jessica said:
Found this on horsemart....


Piebald, Gelding, 7 years, 15 hands

Perfect 1st horse for someone to learn on or get back into riding again. Easy, straight forward, quiet steady ride

Fantastic hack alone and in company been ridden on very busy main roads with nervous 11 year old girl. Great in big open spaces – used to all farm machinery tractors, lorries etc and doesn’t bat an eye

Been on beach and sponsored rides and has hunted. Always gives a safe, sensible, confidence giving ride looking after his rider at all times

Snaffle mouth with 3 flowing paces. Done all local shows, gymkhanas, sj, xc, dressage and working hunter classes

Very well mannered good to do in and out of the stable. Very sweet natured gentleman who loves to please and uncomplicated to do in all ways

Very laid back, easy going temperament. Always has his ears pricked forward, not a nasty bone in his body

The sort very hard to find and would suit all the family. Good shoe, catch, clip, box travels very well alone or with company. Loves all the fuss and attention, will stand on the yard all day long

No vices



£2,500
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Thanks for this - I did see this one, but the size and age made me question if it was a good comparison - however now you've highlighted it maybe i should reconsider that...
 
Yes Hedwards 2000 inclusive of tack.

I sold my daughters 13.1hh (13 years) with all tack and exxtras for 1300, she is a super pony that taught my daughter everything and was totally safe.
She went to a super home, with own land and will retire once the daughter has outgrown.

The owners may like me consider this when selling to your friend :)
 
a 4 yr old has just as much capability of bolting/rearing/bucking as a 24 yr old....just depends on each horse as a "person", i wouldnt rule any age (within reason), colour/gender etc :)
 
Haha yeah I've recovered!

I replied and then screen changed and at top someone was listing about a 7 year old 15.1hh lol, I thought bloody hell wrong horse, how the hell has that happened :( and then i realised it was top of page 2 and somone's copied the add to compare and I'm just a muppet :D
 
If you are looking for comparisons - then on Adtrader and those sorts of websites I would say £2 - £2.5, but if you look on the pony club classifieds something similar would be well over £3K. I think the size and type would make it more orf a premium as it becomes more of a family pony. If it has genuine references - esp from PC then it will always be worth more.

Lolo - you are so right, when you are selling horses are cheap, when you are buying they are a fortune, or even worse everything is cheap apart from the sort you want!
 
Thanks everyone - the pony has been priced at £3250 - I personally think this is pretty fair - and I'll be honest now and say that the buyer is my auntie and the seller is my yard owner - I've known the pony for some time and can vouch for its safety and excellent character - I've hacked/schooled and jumped the pony myself.

however I have no connection to the pony - in that there is no benefit to me if it does sell. Also my auntie had a terrible time with her last pony - tried to kill her on a number of occasions - so has has a fairly major confidence knock...so i want to see her with the 'right' pony. Fingers crossed they'll decide the price is right and go ahead with it.
 
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Pony club is a law unto itself.

I've seen PC ponies change hands for double what they'd sell for on the general market, people pay a premium for the long known history and reputation of the pony.

As someone else said, can't put a price on safety! Especially for our kids :D
 
I think 3250 can be justified for a known history of safety, and I'm a great believer that a horse is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If it's what your Auntie wants and she gains a feeling of confidence then he'll be worth it to her :)

I personally wouldn't pay it, but then I'm happy with badly behaved young ones :D
 
The fact that you know the pony and can back up the sellers claims makes it very good value at that price, it is still young enough to do many years of work. I would have put a price of £3500 on it even at 16.
 
Welshie Squisher said:
I think 3250 can be justified for a known history of safety, and I'm a great believer that a horse is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If it's what your Auntie wants and she gains a feeling of confidence then he'll be worth it to her :)

I personally wouldn't pay it, but then I'm happy with badly behaved young ones :D
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and herein lies the issue, £3250 is more than had been planned to spend - however i have said to my auntie that i think its a pretty good price for a pony we know is safe and hasnt ever been sick or sorry - plus the tack fits perfectly and is very good quality and some of the rugs are brand new this season...
 
Can't believe these prices! No more than £500 I'm afraid. Different if the pony had a good recent competition record, even at local level, more again if it was capable of eventing at Intro level. But otherwise I think you could find a similar pony of a similar age from most local riding schools for less than a £1000 and that would be them pricing it higher than its really worth. I know I'm not taking into account the pony club inflationary factor, but seems that this pony hasn't done all that much pc and not pc eventing, etc.? Or have I missed that?
 
Mithras said:
Can't believe these prices! No more than £500 I'm afraid. Different if the pony had a good recent competition record, even at local level, more again if it was capable of eventing at Intro level. But otherwise I think you could find a similar pony of a similar age from most local riding schools for less than a £1000 and that would be them pricing it higher than its really worth. I know I'm not taking into account the pony club inflationary factor, but seems that this pony hasn't done all that much pc and not pc eventing, etc.? Or have I missed that?
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It does say in my OP that the pony has done pony club - by that i meant show jumping, dressage, showing and pc camp - it hasnt been heavily competed, the current owners little girl didnt have any interest in competing - also, and i could be confusing it with another pony but believe it was also shown up to county level a few years ago - but to be honest, we're not looking for a competition pony - we're looking for a confidence builder for my auntie after the terrible experience she had with her last pony.

I find £500 a bit of a rediculous price - the pony has been there and done it, and most importantly safe as houses around kids and when ridden - it is a mothers dream, and ponies like that are worth far more than £500!! worth their weight in gold more like!

£500 wouldnt pay for the good quality tack and all the rugs either!!
 
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