How much would you pay (sorry everyone)

I would like to find these types for £500 I could make at least £2000 profit on each easily but trying to find a really safe but educated pony is difficult at any price, something out of a riding school will often be nappy alone, not really schooled or so good the riding school will never sell as it earns them so much money.
 
be positive said:
I would like to find these types for £500 I could make at least £2000 profit on each easily but trying to find a really safe but educated pony is difficult at any price, something out of a riding school will often be nappy alone, not really schooled or so good the riding school will never sell as it earns them so much money.
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This! Tell us where you find such stars for £500 and we will be there tomorrow buying and selling within weeks. We'd make a killing!

Mithras, are you from the 60s when that was a lot of money? If this pony was 3 years younger, I bet they'd be asking 10 times £500! The PC is a law unto itself with pricing because clever (rich!) mummies know that a sane, safe and well schooled pony is going to give them peace of mind and a happy child. Also, a 16yo pony is not a 16yo horse- ponies, it is known, live forever and ever...

I'd say that £3250 sounds about right and on the open market he'd fetch that, especially with the tack and rugs. Either way, I hope you find something very suitable who'll give her her confidence back.
 
Lolo said:
I'd say that £3250 sounds about right and on the open market he'd fetch that, especially with the tack and rugs. Either way, I hope you find something very suitable who'll give her her confidence back.
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Thanks, just keeping everything crossed they get this pony - it ticks all the boxes other than the price one!
 
Hedwards said:
£500 wouldnt pay for the good quality tack and all the rugs either!!
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It's what I paid (well, £450) on a LWVTB for my daughter's 9yr old, 13.2 Sec B with tack and his rugs... The tack fitted well but we did replace it over the summer to suit my daughter's size better... *shrugs*, maybe area is an issue...:confused:

Daughter is an 8yr old novice... He's great on lead rein on roads and lessons/fun in the school... Prior owner had him for four years and went from a novice to PC competitions and camp... He was a bit underpriced as he has sweet itch and I do think once you get to the 14.1 + mark you're looking at a potential family pony or possibly a parent/child share which will obviously bump the price up a bit... We were the only people who'd called to enquire about him which amazed me a bit as he really is a gorgeous little fella and I definitely sent a "thank you" skywards when we trialled him... :)
 
Sorry for the slow reply.

The 13.2 we sold was a good big 13.2 cob, so wouldn't be that different from your 14.1. Adults could ride him easily. Last year he won the working hunter, gymkhana and handy pony trophies with reserve trophy for SJ at pony club. The year before he was fifth in the pc/rc NW champs for WHP. He took my son from a nervous ten year old to a confident teen. We sold him with ten rugs and good quality tack (stubben) and xc/travel boots etc. I wanted him to go to a good home with things that I knew fitted him! We owed him the world, and will gladly have him back to retire in the future if need be. A lot of people phoned but were put off by his age, and there were things around with similar experience on the sale websites for a lot less than him. So I think that your pony is a tad over priced. Sometimes when sellers know they have a definate interest they can bump prices up a bit - when if they had to advertise and sell they probably wouldn't get that - especially in this market. I think I would try to knock down or have a look at other things on the market if not before rushing into it. I would say £2- 2.5 would be more like it

this was him...

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Damn, I've just sold a 12.3 version minus the PC recommendation but has SJ locally for £500.

He's 8 yo but not the prettiest pony and hasn't done a great deal of SJ'ing just once or twice.

Took me two Weeks and dropped him from 800. First person to see him (in,the dark) threw money at me but wants too see him ridden Saturday.

I think I need to advertise to you lot next time!
 
hi i would say more £2000 maybe 2500. my friend has just brought a 17 year old 14.2hh that has been there done it and won it affiliated up to 1 metre 50 but is now being used as a confidence giver to my friends daughter and has taken her from jumping 2ft to 3ft 6 sj and xc.they have had the pony on loan and have now brought her for £2000 after much debate as due to age it seemed alot.this also included tack and rugs
 
Damn, I've just sold a 12.3 version minus the PC recommendation but has SJ locally for £500.

He's 8 yo but not the prettiest pony and hasn't done a great deal of SJ'ing just once or twice.

Took me two Weeks and dropped him from 800. First person to see him (in,the dark) threw money at me but wants too see him ridden Saturday.

I think I need to advertise to you lot next time!
 
Well I bought a 10 year old 14.2 welsh cob version of that and paid £4800 for him mother naked.He does have nice conformation.Best money I have ever spent.VERY experienced instructor who came horse shopping with me said that he was worth it and a better schooled version (which I really wanted) would be even harder to find and more money.He is nicely schooled now! For that 14.1 cob I would say at least £3000 and more if he is coming with really decent well fitting tack.These sort are like needles in a hay stack.
 
A ten year old is in a totally different price bracket to a 16/17yr old really - pretty much double...


At the end of the day if you can afford the horse and really like it, why not - better the devil you know sometimes.

Let us know OP.
 
If the horse is good, safe and well schooled as well as willing and fun, that anyone could ride and learn from, I would pay as much as I could afford. Horses that tick most of your boxes can be impossible to find, even when you have a tidy budget.
 
I think there are 2 key points here

1) You know the horse and it's history = priceless
2) The sellers don't 'have' to sell, i.e. they are not needing to price competitively on the open market.

IMO at £3250 the horse is probably a little overpriced, I was thinking more around £2500, however, for the sake of a few extra quid split over the horses lifetime then I wouldn't be quibbling if this is the horse that fits the bill for you.
 
Lolo said:
This! Tell us where you find such stars for £500 and we will be there tomorrow buying and selling within weeks. We'd make a killing!

Mithras, are you from the 60s when that was a lot of money? If this pony was 3 years younger, I bet they'd be asking 10 times £500! The PC is a law unto itself with pricing because clever (rich!) mummies know that a sane, safe and well schooled pony is going to give them peace of mind and a happy child. Also, a 16yo pony is not a 16yo horse- ponies, it is known, live forever and ever...
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I think you could find a similar pony for £500 or £600 ie one with just as good attributes. But you would obviously need to look for one. Pony or not though, 16 is getting on a bit and if its not been competing recently then its not as desirable as one which has been in the ribbons. Or you could probably even find a 5 y o that would do just as much, just as well, but again you would have to know what to look for and what you're buying.

I just tend to be the type of person who doesn't overpay for anything - I like buying houses which need work done but are cheaper as a result. But surely if its a 14. 1, the intended rider must be reasonably advanced, and not needing to be "nursemaided" quite so much? And wouldn't a less exceptionally quite pony teach a rider of that age how to ride better?

But yes, I know about the specialist pony club market. I think I'm in the wrong business, it must be so easy to make money out of some people!
 
Mithras said:
I think you could find a similar pony for £500 or £600 ie one with just as good attributes. But you would obviously need to look for one. Pony or not though, 16 is getting on a bit and if its not been competing recently then its not as desirable as one which has been in the ribbons. Or you could probably even find a 5 y o that would do just as much, just as well, but again you would have to know what to look for and what you're buying.

I just tend to be the type of person who doesn't overpay for anything - I like buying houses which need work done but are cheaper as a result. But surely if its a 14. 1, the intended rider must be reasonably advanced, and not needing to be "nursemaided" quite so much? And wouldn't a less exceptionally quite pony teach a rider of that age how to ride better?

But yes, I know about the specialist pony club market. I think I'm in the wrong business, it must be so easy to make money out of some people!
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The PC market is fairly good but they are generally not mugs and will check and double check references, previous history etc, I sell sometimes to PC homes and they will often get you jumping through hoops when buying, I have taken ponies to rallies, shows, XC schooling, had trainers here, it is no easy way to make a fast buck.
A pony with a genuine and proven history is easy to sell but this takes years to develop, you cannot buy a cheap pony from a dealer and turn it into a good proven pony in a matter of weeks and I would not want to, if I buy a young pony it stays for about 12 months to really get established and ready to do a good job for a long time in its next home.
 
ihatework said:
I think there are 2 key points here

1) You know the horse and it's history = priceless
2) The sellers don't 'have' to sell, i.e. they are not needing to price competitively on the open market.
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This.

My first horse wasn't working out very well, and I went on a riding holiday to try and restore some confidence. I came home with one of the established 'stars' of their yard. I paid £6k for a 13 year old, but she wasn't for sale so they named the price they would let her go for - I was happy to pay it. In fact, 7 months on, I'd pay twice that. She is more perfect than I could have dreamt of. You cannot put a price on that feeling of confidence and safety, especially if like me you realise you're no longer a bouncing teenager and have a tendency to break!

I'd be reluctant to ever buy a horse for sale again, but I'm not sure the reality of that sentiment will work!
 
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