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Wondering how much would you pay for this horse really? No one seems to agree on price and seller keeps saying offers.

16hh partbred ID mare, sire is Fintan Himself dam is a tb. She's got a partbred ID passport. 9yrs old, hacks alone and in company. Done beach rides, hunted in south wales and behaved well. Schooling is a bit green but she's willing and goes in a contact. Has loose jumped 1.50 like it wasn't there and jumped everything on the hunting field without question. Fine to load, lead, worm, clip, catch and shoe. No lumps, bumps or scars

Then same mare but after she's been out competing. Owner has qualifiers lined up for Equine sport uk, TSR, Equifest and STARs.

Thanks
 
I’m usually the one that prices high on here, but at the moment (unless she is a spectacular type, which without photo and video we don’t know) I don’t think she has the value being quoted.

She has reached the grand age of 9 and other than being a nice person (not to be sniffed at) and having done a season (?) with a smaller pack she actually doesn’t have much of a CV.

Her main market would be hack/hunt with RC all rounder potential and I’d imagine 4-5K unless there is something about her to really make her stand out.

After competing - who knows, depends what she does and how she does!
 
ihatework said:
I’m usually the one that prices high on here, but at the moment (unless she is a spectacular type, which without photo and video we don’t know) I don’t think she has the value being quoted.

She has reached the grand age of 9 and other than being a nice person (not to be sniffed at) and having done a season (?) with a smaller pack she actually doesn’t have much of a CV.

Her main market would be hack/hunt with RC all rounder potential and I’d imagine 4-5K unless there is something about her to really make her stand out.

After competing - who knows, depends what she does and how she does!
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This is more what I was thinking. If she was to qualify for a few things then the offer/ price would go up but until then she's essentially not done all that much :)
 
ihatework said:
I’m usually the one that prices high on here, but at the moment (unless she is a spectacular type, which without photo and video we don’t know) I don’t think she has the value being quoted.

She has reached the grand age of 9 and other than being a nice person (not to be sniffed at) and having done a season (?) with a smaller pack she actually doesn’t have much of a CV.

Her main market would be hack/hunt with RC all rounder potential and I’d imagine 4-5K unless there is something about her to really make her stand out.

After competing - who knows, depends what she does and how she does!
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I also usually tend to price higher but agree that this horse is not really proven and at 9 or maybe 10 this year her days of being valued on potential are behind her so 4-5k would be sensible.

I have no idea what the various qualifiers are that are being planned so whether they will add any value other than to prove she will behave out at competitions I am not sure, if the owner wants to add real value, although there is not guarantee it will, the results need to be at BE or BS, and not in the lowest classes, to make people take notice but that would require a fairly decent investment in time and money over the next few months so may not be really worthwhile unless they want to do it anyway.
 
amymay said:
Ok, so one seasons hunting.

She sounds like a really nice all rounder. So possibly around the 5k mark depending on conformation as she stands.
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Yes I agree, with only one season of hunting so far in her 9 years then it's a lower price than a proper proven hunter.
 
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be positive said:
I also usually tend to price higher but agree that this horse is not really proven and at 9 or maybe 10 this year her days of being valued on potential are behind her so 4-5k would be sensible.

I have no idea what the various qualifiers are that are being planned so whether they will add any value other than to prove she will behave out at competitions I am not sure, if the owner wants to add real value, although there is not guarantee it will, the results need to be at BE or BS, and not in the lowest classes, to make people take notice but that would require a fairly decent investment in time and money over the next few months so may not be really worthwhile unless they want to do it anyway.
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she'll be 9 this year in May, she's mainly hacked between being backed at 5 and now.
 
I buy cheap so this isnt really my area, but I see endless posts from people looking for a nice person to do RC stuff with and they cant find them at 3 to 4k. Most are being told to budget 6k+ so based on that I'd think she has to be worth 6 to 8k depending on what she looks like and how she moves etc, and if she will tolerate a middle aged leisure rider, and most importantly, pass a vet!
 
Leo Walker said:
I buy cheap so this isnt really my area, but I see endless posts from people looking for a nice person to do RC stuff with and they cant find them at 3 to 4k. Most are being told to budget 6k+ so based on that I'd think she has to be worth 6 to 8k depending on what she looks like and how she moves etc, and if she will tolerate a middle aged leisure rider, and most importantly, pass a vet!
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This horse has not done RC or any competing so would not be a horse for the average person to buy for that purpose, if she can get out and prove herself capable of jumping sweetly round a course and doing a reasonable prelim test then the price will go up but if she goes out and takes a dislike to fillers or hots up in the warm up she may be worth less so it is a bit of a gamble for the current owner.
If she is a really smart type she will appeal to a broader market and being 9 rather than nearly 10 is far better, double figures seem to put people off if they want something to bring on.
 
Are you buying or selling? If selling, then you have to think what you want for her money wise and start from there. If buying, and the seller won't name a price, decide what you want to pay (subject to vet etc) and make the offer. A horse is, after all, only worth what someone will pay for it!
 
Really sorry to resurrect an old thread but on searching it’s along same lines of what I’m looking at right now.

I’m looking and seeing horses in sought after size bracket (15.3-16.3)
10+
hacking but not much else on CV, no mention of schooling or comp record.
£4-5k plus - Ones a gelding so no breeding potential...
They ‘look’ nice sorts as well
A member (who I can’t remember) mentioned in another similar thread that they would go see and say well to me this horse is worth £xx -in a non condescending way - basically well under ad price, then get horse for price she offered.

I feel pricing is optimistic on some after looking at the ‘market’ and I’m put off on viewing for fear of being a dreaded time waster but I could be missing out on an absolute gem or 2, albeit low mileage but nice sort.

Do you just not approach these sellers and continue to look at what’s within the budget you’ve set for the CV you’re after?
 
abarnes said:
Really sorry to resurrect an old thread but on searching it’s along same lines of what I’m looking at right now.

I’m looking and seeing horses in sought after size bracket (15.3-16.3)
10+
hacking but not much else on CV, no mention of schooling or comp record.
£4-5k plus - Ones a gelding so no breeding potential...
They ‘look’ nice sorts as well
A member (who I can’t remember) mentioned in another similar thread that they would go see and say well to me this horse is worth £xx -in a non condescending way - basically well under ad price, then get horse for price she offered.

I feel pricing is optimistic on some after looking at the ‘market’ and I’m put off on viewing for fear of being a dreaded time waster but I could be missing out on an absolute gem or 2, albeit low mileage but nice sort.

Do you just not approach these sellers and continue to look at what’s within the budget you’ve set for the CV you’re after?
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You may have been best starting a new thread, you are looking in the most sought after size range, age 10-12 or so is again in many must have lists, geldings may have no breeding potential but are generally more sought after as not many mares will have broodmare value anyway.
I am surprised you are finding most have no competition record, maybe you need to call about a few to see what they have done but to my mind being a genuinely good sensible hack will mean they are schooled to a basic level and hacking for many is high on the priority list so the horse should have a reasonable base level of value, £3k upwards for a sound horse is not much when you consider the costs to get it there and how much many people spend on tack and rugs, often the saddle and bridle cost more than the horse .

I think you will find most sellers will tell you to take a hike if you offer significantly lower than the asking price for no reason other than in your view the horse is not worth the money and you never had any intention of paying even near to it, a few may be interested but they may be the horses with undisclosed issues that they will be pleased to see gone especially if you don't get it vetted.

I would decide on your budget, have a few clear requirements, if the searches do not bring up any that fit then you need to think about what issues you will accept and find something that is priced lower for a reason that you are prepared to take on, there are bargains out there but there are many more dodgy, broken, uneducated horses that may end up being far more expensive in the long run.
 
Just going out with bloodhounds will not get a hunters premium .
People who pay a premium for hunter do so for hunters that have been through the whole experience of gradual introduction to hunting over probably two seasons.
 
Depending on what she looks like, if a nice stamp Id want to pay about £4-5k max, I'd only pay anywhere near £8k for her if she had a GOOD competition record - winning everything at local level with affiliated competing under her belt too. I have two similar type of horses. I paid £5k for a 7yr old that had done local comps and low level BE, and £3.5k for a 4.5yr old that was green but had nice movement and jump. Both are nice looking and well put together with good breeding lines.. Both were a good few years ago, but I dont think prices have changed that much. If she really is a good hunter and fit Id try and get her out with a top hunt once or twice and sell her as a hunter, you could add a couple of £k at this time of year.
 
The one that got me thinking was...
16.2hh 11YO ID gelding (didn’t say it was x or anything)
Badly written ad, no mention of anything at all on CV other than nice to hack, (didn’t specify alone/company) good to do
£5880 or something similar...

seems rather a lot for little experience at that age, regardless of him looking a good type from the useless angled photos. Just wondering what other people thought that’s all :)
 
Horrified by some of the prices.

Sounds like a hack who has done one season hunting. The loose jumping means very little to me, jumping one massive jump just doesn't impress me. Its not the same as jumping a massive, technical course with a rider.

Sounds like a nice £3.5k horse to me.
 
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