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WPC P_G.....I just think you got 'out-policed' by the HHO Admin police
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They appear to have removed the link to your advert in the OP
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i know! im not police anyways, as apparently this forum isnt moderated......

As i said to admin i wasnt advertising her, i just couldnt be bothered to type out all her info.
 
Have a look at Exmoor Eventings site it talks about leasing and the benefits of it for people. My friend is looking to lease her horse who has competed up to intermediate and is wondering what to charge hence looking at the exmoor eventing website yesterday.
 
The stupid pedantic lawyer in me wants to point out that leasing seems to leave you with more potential liability issues than loaning (and potentially also tax issues as could be considered income, I think). Just something else for you to think about.
If your monthly fee is equivalent to things you pay--e.g. insurance, B.E. membership etc., might be better to phrase the contract as them making contribution for that to you, rather than them paying you for use of horse.
Sorry can't be more specific about the details of potential issues, but its a long time since I looked into the area.
 
just a suggestion have you looked on BHS website to see if they do lease agreement templates???
IMO lease does give you more control over horse on welfare, competeion issues but does come defo with down of tax liablity...
and of course all the normally rubbish that can go with not having your horse stabled with you...

finger crossed on finding someone suitable and that works for you and horsey
 
I would be wary about leasing if I were you.......
From what I can gather, I was in the position that you are in now about six months ago - I wanted to loan or lease out my competitipn mare to a home where she would do FEI ponies. The mare is very deffinately my pet and not in anyway there to make money (although ideally I didn't want her to cost me money whilst out on loan!!) And like you I at first thought that the only difference between loan and lease was that I'd get money.... so obviously I thought that I may aswell lease. I would have wanted around £200 - £250 per month for mine.
When I looked into it though, the contracts are different -
With loan it is your horse so you can visit it when you want, have it back when you want, offer input, make suggestions etc etc
Whereas with lease, at the beggining of the year they effectively buy your horse for that year and it is theirs for the year - that is what the money is for. It would be unlikely to get a contract where they only "buy" your horse on a monthly basis even if they pay monthly and therefore you hand them the rights to the horse for quite a long time - lets say in month two you weren't happy with how they were treating her then you'd have to wait til the end of the year to do anything about it - either change the contract so they can't do whatever it was you are not happy with or not renew. Now from a business point of view (such as Ian Woodhead and DHI Langar etc) this is perfect but to me my mare is my pet (and I get the impression you are the same with yours) and a couple of grand a year is not woth signing all those rights over for - that is one of the reasons I won't sell her either! So I decided to loan and turn down any money - that way I could theoretically go and collect her tomorow (I won't be doing though as her loan 'owners' are brill).
I hope this claryfies that the only difference isn't the money but that you "sell" the horse for a year at a time
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A friend was looking at a Grade B showjumper for lease and that was £250 month for a minimum period of four years.

TBH I thought that was quite excessive, as the leasees would still have to pay BSJA fees etc.
 
im aware of the tax liablity, so thats not a problem!

ive downloaded the templates off the BHS website too!!!!

As you know im VERY fussy, which ive told this woman already!! She'd probably be put off by my fussyness anyways! but its worth a try at least just to see if she gets on with her or not.
 
If i'd have decided to lease mine, I'd have expected them to pay all BD fee's etc as well as the £250 - as I've loaned her they still pay all fee's / keep etc etc but no lease fee!!!
Four years does not suprise me - when people pay for a horse they do want security as to the time they'll have the horse - thinking about iI think you'd be lucky to get them to sign up to as little as a year at a time........ they will pay all year and in such a short time may not even get chance to represent teams so they'll prob want longer!!

For £150 a month I'd say that the horse would need to have been to the Nationals and Winters at at least Novice level, to prove it can get through the regionals because people won't pat for a dressage horse (I doubt) unless they have some indication that it CAN do what they're paying for it to do. Ideally top ten placings at Nationals and Winters too. If it's good enough for FEI rather than BYRDS then you'd get more... but again you'd need some evidence that it is likely the horse can do this.
Also for a lease it's likely that they'll want 5 stage vetting - if you got your £150 / month and the deal was for 4 years then altogether they'll give you £7200 as well as paying all assosiated costs so they'll want to know there is nothing wrong before they bind themselves in for four years (and they'd have to pay vet bills if it did go wrong!!)
 
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