How not to shoe a horse..!!!!

[Daytona]

A italian vets method of treating laminitis

 

[Angua2]

Good lord

 

[honey-bees]

Where did you find the picture, was there any article alongside?
Shocking.

 

[TwoStroke]

Holy ****.

I can't even begin to list all the things wrong with that. But WHY use screws instead of nails, fgs?!

Jesus, what an idiot .

 

[FfionWinnie]

That hoof looks stuffed. I can see the reasoning behind screwing rather than nailing on a laminitic but I'd not thought the screws needed were B&Q issue

 

[Daytona]

A bare foot trimmer posted the photo on FB, hoofing marvellous.

 

[honey-bees]

I'm just confused on what they were trying to achieve?

 

[fuggly]

heres an article explaining the theory behind this
http://www.equipodiatry.com/woodenshoe.html

 

[YasandCrystal]

heres an article explaining the theory behind this
http://www.equipodiatry.com/woodenshoe.html

That's actually very interesting.

 

[ester]

thanks for the link fuggly, I think I have seen similar before.

 

[Oberon]

Steward clogs have been around for years.

They attempt to improve break over to remove shearing forces and make it that the horse is rolling along.

Problem with the wooden shoes is slippiness is a real risk - and so horses will brace while moving for fear of slipping.

http://hoofcare.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/aqha-laminitis-download-link-for.html

I would imagine looking at the causes of the lami rather than concentrating on the hoof would yield better results though

Prevention is better than cure......

 

[fuggly]

it may look barbaric but actually if you read about it it makes sense

 

[honey-bees]

Steward clogs have been around for years.

They attempt to improve break over to remove shearing forces and make it that the horse is rolling along.

Problem with the wooden shoes is slippiness is a real risk - and so horses will brace while moving for fear of slipping.

http://hoofcare.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/aqha-laminitis-download-link-for.html

I would imagine looking at the causes of the lami rather than concentrating on the hoof would yield better results though

Prevention is better than cure......

Thank-you. Makes interesting reading.

 

[Daytona]

Oooo thanks for the link I seem screws and was like OMG barbaric but that all makes sense now

 

[tallyho!]

Despite the explanations, doesn't make it the treatment of choice by a long shot!

 

[Daytona]

Lol that's true, don't think I'd let me horse have that done to be far

 

[MiJodsR2BlinkinTite]

it may look barbaric but actually if you read about it it makes sense

Hmmm, yes, agree basically. I've had a laminitic in the past and wouldn't discount this treatment out of hand.

Looks like the hoof has had a dorsal re-section at some stage........

Any farriers/veterinarians on here care to comment??

 

[TheCurlyPony]

Holy Crap, wtf

 

[JackAT]

what's the reasoning behind using screws rather than nails?

 

[smellsofhorse]

Looks weird.
But tgere must be a method.
He is a vet so can't be a total numpty!

I will read the article.

 

[Oberon]

He is a vet so can't be a total numpty!.

Aww - bless you

 

[YasandCrystal]

what's the reasoning behind using screws rather than nails?

It is not uncommon to use glue on shoes or pads fixed with tape in horses with lamintis, as nailing on is painful and traumatic to an already very painful condition/foot.

The screws would be less painful to the horse for a few reasons, firstly it would mean the horse does not have to support it's weight on the other likely compromised fore foot as the screwing took place from the top, secondly there is no banging which would likely cause discomfort to the horse, thirdly the placement of this shaped wood is likely dependent on the foot being on the floor to determine the exact spot at which to fix it. I also doubt that nails would hold this wood in place as well as the screws. There has been lots of movement of the pedal bone from the look of the coronary band and hoof capsule shape.

 

[A Guilding]

This horse has been wrong since birth or soon after. front right looks quite normal (relatively). grade 2 or 3 club foot on left that has mechanically foundered. P 3 will of eroded at the toe. No it hasnt had a resection. Id of used smaller screws. or glued or taped a plastic clog on it. It will have impression material under there around the frog to take some pressure off the failing blood supply under the toe
This for this horse is a very good job. without it it would be glue.

 

[JackAT]

It is not uncommon to use glue on shoes or pads fixed with tape in horses with lamintis, as nailing on is painful and traumatic to an already very painful condition/foot.

The screws would be less painful to the horse for a few reasons, firstly it would mean the horse does not have to support it's weight on the other likely compromised fore foot as the screwing took place from the top, secondly there is no banging which would likely cause discomfort to the horse, thirdly the placement of this shaped wood is likely dependent on the foot being on the floor to determine the exact spot at which to fix it. I also doubt that nails would hold this wood in place as well as the screws. There has been lots of movement of the pedal bone from the look of the coronary band and hoof capsule shape.

Thanks! Learn something new every day. Makes a lot of sense. I didn't really think about the initial act of putting the shoes on, but it's just as important as the advantages when the shoes are on and working. Also makes sense that screws would be more secure than nails!

Now, I really must get on with studying immunosuppression in kidney transplant patients or my consultant will shout at me tomorrow. HHO is my favourite form of procrastination atm!

 

[A Guilding]

It is not uncommon to use glue on shoes or pads fixed with tape in horses with lamintis, as nailing on is painful and traumatic to an already very painful condition/foot.

The screws would be less painful to the horse for a few reasons, firstly it would mean the horse does not have to support it's weight on the other likely compromised fore foot as the screwing took place from the top, secondly there is no banging which would likely cause discomfort to the horse, thirdly the placement of this shaped wood is likely dependent on the foot being on the floor to determine the exact spot at which to fix it. I also doubt that nails would hold this wood in place as well as the screws. There has been lots of movement of the pedal bone from the look of the coronary band and hoof capsule shape.

Rubbish.

 

[cptrayes]

This for this horse is a very good job. without it it would be glue.

I'd rather it was glue. I can't believe that horse is being kept alive for any reason other than the owner can't bear her own pain if she loses it. I find it impossible to believe that it is not wracked with aches and pains throughout its body

 

[A Guilding]

I'd rather it was glue. I can't believe that horse is being kept alive for any reason other than the owner can't bear her own pain if she loses it. I find it impossible to believe that it is not wracked with aches and pains throughout its body

Id agree with you. But that's a different subject. All the damage to that horse is progressive and irreversible.

 

[Oberon]

Another vote for glue.

The window to save him has long since past for the poor chap.

 

[amandaco2]

Ouch.....

 

[cptrayes]

Id agree with you. But that's a different subject. All the damage to that horse is progressive and irreversible.

Different subject, I know AG It must break your heart when owners refuse to do the right thing by their animals and you are forced to work with horses you feel should really be put to sleep. I don't envy you that at all.