Legs11
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Trying to explain what 'getting cast' means to my non horsey boyfriend - Anyone help me out - A video would be great!
How to explain Cast
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Gucci_b
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A stabled horse who lies down just so or rolls in his stable runs the risk of becoming "cast" in a position where he can't get his legs underneath himself to stand up again. Once caught on his back with his legs in the air or jammed against a wall, he's very likely to begin a desperate, thrashing effort to right himself. If he can't get himself out of his fix, he may exhaust or injure himself, though some cooler customers wait calmly to be rescued after realizing they're getting nowhere with their flailing.
Freeing a cast horse is a matter of putting him in the position and giving him the space to go through the naturally awkward movements of regaining his feet. In most cases of entrapment you'll need to roll the horse over to bring his feet away from the wall. With a calm horse, this is not difficult, but you still need to be careful to stay out of harm's way. Here's how to make use of leverage to roll the horse over his own withers, which is the usual sticking point:
1. Loop two longe lines or other long, soft ropes around the fore and rear fetlocks on the side opposite the direction of the roll.
2. Standing in the stable doorway or other avenue of escape, pull evenly on both the longe lines to bring the legs simultaneously over his trunk.
3. As the horse begins to roll past his withers, drop the lines and leave the stable, as he's liable to leap to his feet, and you don't want to be in his way.
A thrashing, panicky horse is a real danger to you as well as to himself, and you'll have to apply some skilled restraint to gain control of the situation. Just letting the cast horse wear himself out could take him to the brink of exhaustion or shock. Recumbent horses use their heads as a fulcrum to begin their rising movements, so you can still a downed horse by having a helper kneel on the horse's neck and hold his muzzle up off the ground to give you a chance to attach the rescue lines or administer a sedative if you have the supplies and skills to do so. You may need to call in your vet if the horse is a threat to himself or his handlers or if he seems ill or injured after being cast.
Most stabled horses live out their lives without ever getting cast in their stalls, but every now and again, a chronic case comes along who can't seem to cope with enclosing walls. One cure is to never stable him; another is to keep him in a stall small enough to discourage rolling and to "bank" the walls with a generous wedge of bedding, but the banks have to be quite large and well maintained to keep him away from the walls. For an inveterate horse, you could even construct a stable with easily removed partitions.
Freeing a cast horse is a matter of putting him in the position and giving him the space to go through the naturally awkward movements of regaining his feet. In most cases of entrapment you'll need to roll the horse over to bring his feet away from the wall. With a calm horse, this is not difficult, but you still need to be careful to stay out of harm's way. Here's how to make use of leverage to roll the horse over his own withers, which is the usual sticking point:
1. Loop two longe lines or other long, soft ropes around the fore and rear fetlocks on the side opposite the direction of the roll.
2. Standing in the stable doorway or other avenue of escape, pull evenly on both the longe lines to bring the legs simultaneously over his trunk.
3. As the horse begins to roll past his withers, drop the lines and leave the stable, as he's liable to leap to his feet, and you don't want to be in his way.
A thrashing, panicky horse is a real danger to you as well as to himself, and you'll have to apply some skilled restraint to gain control of the situation. Just letting the cast horse wear himself out could take him to the brink of exhaustion or shock. Recumbent horses use their heads as a fulcrum to begin their rising movements, so you can still a downed horse by having a helper kneel on the horse's neck and hold his muzzle up off the ground to give you a chance to attach the rescue lines or administer a sedative if you have the supplies and skills to do so. You may need to call in your vet if the horse is a threat to himself or his handlers or if he seems ill or injured after being cast.
Most stabled horses live out their lives without ever getting cast in their stalls, but every now and again, a chronic case comes along who can't seem to cope with enclosing walls. One cure is to never stable him; another is to keep him in a stall small enough to discourage rolling and to "bank" the walls with a generous wedge of bedding, but the banks have to be quite large and well maintained to keep him away from the walls. For an inveterate horse, you could even construct a stable with easily removed partitions.
Roody2
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How about
'bloomin fekin horse rolling too exuberantly and, unaware of the size/shape/layout of the stable it has been stabled in for the last 4 years, gets itself stuck in the corner, or against one wall, normally upside down and then looks sorrowfully at you until you go in and put your back out helping it get up'!!!!
Glad that one is gone now - honestly, he would get himself cast in the corner of the sandschool so it wasn't even a lack of space that made him do it!!!!!
'bloomin fekin horse rolling too exuberantly and, unaware of the size/shape/layout of the stable it has been stabled in for the last 4 years, gets itself stuck in the corner, or against one wall, normally upside down and then looks sorrowfully at you until you go in and put your back out helping it get up'!!!!
Glad that one is gone now - honestly, he would get himself cast in the corner of the sandschool so it wasn't even a lack of space that made him do it!!!!!
wysiwyg
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Cast......Is a horse/pony that has rolled too close to a solid wall, thus unable to get purchaseto get upright.
Cure....hold forelimb just above fetlock, and pull towards you, enableing horse/pony to roll over onto side away from wall, leave animal to get bareings/use of limbs...it will then rise on on accord.
Cure....hold forelimb just above fetlock, and pull towards you, enableing horse/pony to roll over onto side away from wall, leave animal to get bareings/use of limbs...it will then rise on on accord.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
martha you make the solution sound very simple!
I follow guccis method of correction, frank rolls a lot in his stable but thankfully rarely gets it wrong.
I follow guccis method of correction, frank rolls a lot in his stable but thankfully rarely gets it wrong.
wysiwyg
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It is very simple, ester.
The trick is to stay calm and be decisive.
The trick is to stay calm and be decisive.
Hels_Bels
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How about
'bloomin fekin horse rolling too exuberantly and, unaware of the size/shape/layout of the stable it has been stabled in for the last 4 years, gets itself stuck in the corner, or against one wall, normally upside down and then looks sorrowfully at you until you go in and put your back out helping it get up'!!!!
Glad that one is gone now - honestly, he would get himself cast in the corner of the sandschool so it wasn't even a lack of space that made him do it!!!!!
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PMSL. thats what you call an explanation and a damm good one at that
How about
'bloomin fekin horse rolling too exuberantly and, unaware of the size/shape/layout of the stable it has been stabled in for the last 4 years, gets itself stuck in the corner, or against one wall, normally upside down and then looks sorrowfully at you until you go in and put your back out helping it get up'!!!!
Glad that one is gone now - honestly, he would get himself cast in the corner of the sandschool so it wasn't even a lack of space that made him do it!!!!!
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PMSL. thats what you call an explanation and a damm good one at that
ester
Not slacking multitasking
am sure chavhorse wont mind me linking this.
injuries that can be caused by horse getting cast
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/sh...rue#Post4651046
injuries that can be caused by horse getting cast
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/sh...rue#Post4651046
Box_Of_Frogs
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Tell your BF to imagine he's drunk, stark naked and covered in baby oil (we won't ask why). Now tell him to imagine he's lying like that, on his back, in one of those huge deep baths with no hand grips, and the taps are broken. Now tell him to imagine the fire alarm goes off. Tell him to describe what he thinks it would feel like as he thrashed about, unable to get a hold or a grip and danger getting ever closer........
It might be better to arrange a practical test for him to truly appreciate the horse's problem, but if he does, remember WE WANT THE PICTURES!!!!!
It might be better to arrange a practical test for him to truly appreciate the horse's problem, but if he does, remember WE WANT THE PICTURES!!!!!
Chavhorse
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Evil pure evil but somehow it gets the idea across perfectly
stilltrying
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How about
'bloomin fekin horse rolling too exuberantly and, unaware of the size/shape/layout of the stable it has been stabled in for the last 4 years, gets itself stuck in the corner, or against one wall, normally upside down and then looks sorrowfully at you until you go in and put your back out helping it get up'!!!!
Glad that one is gone now - honestly, he would get himself cast in the corner of the sandschool so it wasn't even a lack of space that made him do it!!!!!
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I have one of those....only mine managed to get himself cast in a 10 ACRE FIELD.
How about
'bloomin fekin horse rolling too exuberantly and, unaware of the size/shape/layout of the stable it has been stabled in for the last 4 years, gets itself stuck in the corner, or against one wall, normally upside down and then looks sorrowfully at you until you go in and put your back out helping it get up'!!!!
Glad that one is gone now - honestly, he would get himself cast in the corner of the sandschool so it wasn't even a lack of space that made him do it!!!!!
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I have one of those....only mine managed to get himself cast in a 10 ACRE FIELD.