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After having a 17 year partnership with my previous mare, I've now bought a sweet natured Irish cob who has just turned 5. I bought her in May this year, and so far she has been an absolute superstar on the ground and out hacking.

She is very sensitive - for example my saddle fitter recommended a Prolite anatomical girth, and when I tried it on her the first time (borrowed a Shires Arma one for the first couple of rides) she shot forward as soon as I mounted which unnerved me. (I'm an older rider, and my confidence is shaken easily these days on a new horse as I knew my other mare so well and trusted her implicitly.) We overcame this by swapping back to the Shires girth but she remembered the discomfort and would not stand still to be mounted (which was the case previously) - so my friend held her for me, and once she realised there wouldn't be any discomfort she has now reverted to standing stock still.

The only other time she has unnerved me was when I had a bit fitter out. We were riding in the school to try out a few different bits and she did some weird stag leaps completely out of the blue. These didn't really unseat me (I'm a fairly balanced rider) but they were quite explosive for a quiet, calm cob. We managed to carry on with the bit fitting (although I did want to quit!), but we haven't ridden in the school since and I don't really want to. Funnily enough she has done one weird leap in the air out on a hack (similar but more upwards than forwards) when we were brushing past some prickly undergrowth and I just thought perhaps she had been stung or bitten or something. She's also spooked at a water cannon - she was fine with it circling round towards her, but when it went behind her she panicked and shot sideways into a stubble field. Neither of these incidents worried me - probably because I could see a valid reason for her reacting that way.

So - I would like to find someone (instructor) who could school her for me initially, and then once I can see she is going confidently and happily in the school, to give me lessons on her. It would also be useful to have someone school her once a fortnight in the autumn/winter when it's too dark to hack after work as I work full time. She's very green in the school, and I really don't like schooling (unless it's a lesson which focuses me). So back to my original question - I've asked my friends if they could recommend someone, but no luck so far. I may have to post on our local horse riders group on Facebook asking for recommendations (which I hate doing as a rule) as this way it would go out to a much wider audience. But I'm not sure how to word the ad? It needs to be someone kind, considerate and experienced with youngsters. Would welcome all advice here please. I've only ever had sharers in the past, but don't want to risk a sharer with my mare being so young. (Well I have had instructors, but never one that rode my horse regularly - just hopped on now and again to show me something or get a feel for the horse.)
 

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I don't think that there's any harm in getting someone sensitive to help you overcome your worries, but I can't see that your horse behaved 'badly' in any instances you describe here. It sounds like the new girth pinched her, and probably the same for the new bits at the bit fitting trial. The shooting forward would be trying to evade pain/discomfort.

I see spooking as completely normal in horses, as prey animals. Your relationship is still new, she'll become more confident as your relationship develops.

I would just strongly caution you against anyone who might be too heavy-handed with her, she sounds very good natured and you could create more problems if someone comes along with the mindset of 'correcting' her.

Your relationship is still very new, give it time and I'm certain you'll both settle into each other :)
 

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I don't think that there's any harm in getting someone sensitive to help you overcome your worries, but I can't see that your horse behaved 'badly' in any instances you describe here. It sounds like the new girth pinched her, and probably the same for the new bits at the bit fitting trial. The shooting forward would be trying to evade pain/discomfort.
No and I don't feel that she behaved badly at all and I can't see anywhere where I implied that. She's really lovely, but once my confidence is shaken then I find it hard to get it back. And at 60+ and at risk of damaging myself from a fall, I just get very nervous, and don't want to pass that on to her. Hacking I'm very confident - but riding in a school is far more nerve wracking for me!
 

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I have a very sensitive cob like this. He can only be groomed with a soft body brush or sheepskin mitt. He's a darling to handle and ride until something new happens,new girth, trimming feather,new tack etc and he becomes very very reactive. Wish I knew the answer. It was such a shock when the quiet boy reacted so very strongly the first time.
 

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what area are you? I can recommend someone but depends where you are? With such a sensitive horse, whoever you chose to use, I would suggest go and what the person teaching and schooling another horse, and maybe work together initially before you let them ride her.
I'm on the Essex/Suffolk border.
 

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I have a very sensitive cob like this. He can only be groomed with a soft body brush or sheepskin mitt. He's a darling to handle and ride until something new happens,new girth, trimming feather,new tack etc and he becomes very very reactive. Wish I knew the answer. It was such a shock when the quiet boy reacted so very strongly the first time.
Glad I don't have the only one! Strangely enough she didn't react to the saddle fitting - she was foot perfect then. She was funny with her feet for the first couple of months, but now picks them up perfectly for me. I can do most things with her now, although sometimes she accepts fly spray and sometimes she prefers not to be sprayed! 😂
 

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Congratulations on your new girl, she's sounds like a sweetheart and lucky to have you!

It sounds like you're doing a brilliant job of getting to know each other and slowly building confidence 😊
My suggestion would be to keep on doing the things like hacking to build on that foundation, but also start trying out some instructors for lessons in the school.
I think it's a bit like kissing frogs sometimes!

Call a few and tell them what you're looking for as you described above, then if they sound suitable book a lesson as a sort of interview.

If you like how they teach and it suits you and your horse, it will be a good indicator of how they might ride her before you let them climb aboard.

Another option is to see if any instructors in your area run clinics and go and watch on foot. That way you can see and assess their teaching style before you start spending any money!
 

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Firstly, I completely understand where you are coming from as in the same 'age bracket'. Like you, I'm perfectly happy to hack but riding in the arena bores me to be honest and the horse picks up in that and occasionally pops in a jolly jape! Hmmmm...

Why not just hack, go to pole clinics, ground work, even in hand showing, build up the partnership before tackling anything which unnerves either of you. We used to trailer to a local XC course just to hack about, guarantee of no traffic or bird scarers!!

Wishing you luck, many of us are there with you but possibly not admitting it in public!
 

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Do you think she is still quite green? It may be that she hasn't seen or done a lot and new situations are a bit scary. If you can find an instructor that you get on with, or another steady eddy to hack out with, hopefully she will come right. Stay safe, and I hope you enjoy your cob.
 

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This is exactly the sort of confidence coaching I used to offer when I still did it. Riding/way of going training combined with rider confidence coaching. I did have a very long client list. I was always happy to school for my clients and would joke that it's a reverse lesson as I would narrate everything I was doing. The trick was for them to really want to have a go ...

I think in terms of a wanted advert, I'd just write everything you wrote here. The right trainer will read it and think "I can help. That's me. "

Good luck!!
 

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Do you think she is still quite green? It may be that she hasn't seen or done a lot and new situations are a bit scary. If you can find an instructor that you get on with, or another steady eddy to hack out with, hopefully she will come right. Stay safe, and I hope you enjoy your cob.
Thank you! We've been hacking regularly with a friend and she's a real star. I love hacking her. I asked amongst my friends and someone has recommended their instructor, so that is going to be my first port of call.

This is exactly the sort of confidence coaching I used to offer when I still did it. Riding/way of going training combined with rider confidence coaching. I did have a very long client list. I was always happy to school for my clients and would joke that it's a reverse lesson as I would narrate everything I was doing. The trick was for them to really want to have a go ...

I think in terms of a wanted advert, I'd just write everything you wrote here. The right trainer will read it and think "I can help. That's me. "

Good luck!!
Exactly this! I'm sure I will soon want to hop aboard and get a feel for her in the school. ;)
 

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If it's any consolation, my old cob is rising 30, and has always hated school work. Anything from planting in the middle and refusing to move, to tearing around the perimeter like a lunatic trying to scrape your leg on the fence. He would happily hack all day, so that is where we did the schooling. Good luck!
 
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