How to steal a horsebox and get away with it

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How to get away with it!

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Our lovely horsebox was stolen in 2009! Heartbreak all round - lost tack, rugs, clothing, bits and bobs,....memories!!!! BUT guess what WE FOUND IT - yes against all the odds -it was an unusual conversion - on an Isuzu - not common and a fab - a bit different - build within the living. So we knew it was ours - just looked at the pictures and ooh that's our lorry - Anyway the upshot is - If you want to steal a horsebox - just put it on another chassis and the police, insurance company etc. won't be interested - never mind that you have lost your property, insurance excess, my sister's near nervous breakdown following the theft in broad daylight - also our huge amount of work in tracing the stolen vehicle, bringing it to the attention of the powers that be, chasing them up to investigate - afterall it is a matter of selling on stolen property and several other horseboxes were stolen from the same area at the same time.. Surely they want to stop the gang who are doing this to us????

The only reason we found our box (although it now seems as if the police can't be bothered or know who it is and don't want to get involved) is because it was an unusual build on an Isuzu and the vendor made the mistake of wanting to meet potential buyers in supermarket carparks having mentioned in the ad that it was built by Davenports who only ever built on two Isuzu Chassis - one of which was stolen - OURS!!!! SO NOW YOU KNOW HOW TO GET AWAY WITH IT!!!

Where do we go now to recover our property - - ok the insurance paid out - but not full value and we had to pay an excess on the vehicle and another on our property that was stolen so are well in excess of £1,000 out of pocket!


Comments would be appreciated!
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In theory it belongs to the insurance company as they've paid you out.

This happened to a friend of mine. Again an unusual body so distinctive. They used to remove the circuit board but yard / lorry was obviously 'checked out' because as the lorry was driven out the yard in broad daylight, taking a telegraph pole gate post with it, The YO saw the brake lights working so just assumed it was the owners.

They later found out that a lorry park a few miles down the road had been done over and amongst other things a 'suitable' circuit board was stolen. A couple of years later they were at a show 15 miles up the road and there was their lorry. It had been resprayed and different plates but they had never got round to finishing the living so when they ambled past 3 or 4 times thinking is it ? Isn't it ? They could see Tge living hadn't been changed and the inside of the jockey door was still the original colour. They didn't do anything about it as they were of the mind a family had and had obviously bought it in good faith and if they notified the police / insurance then the family would lose the lorry and their money.
 
If you really want to steal a Horse Box and get away with it Call yourself Smith Sir with no fixed address apart from the campsite you never leave.
 
I would suggest at least a formal complaint to the police force because it's really not acceptable. But I'm guessing they don't feel there is any realistic chance of prosecution.

Paula
 
If you make a complaint they have a duty to investigate. Make sure you get a crime reference number.
Good luck & don't give up.
 
Armas said:
If you make a complaint they have a duty to investigate. Make sure you get a crime reference number.
Good luck & don't give up.
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No they don't. Police point blank refused to investigate my incident involving a horsebox. They'll tell you its a civil case and you have suffered no loss.
 
Anything to do with crime and horses seems to be a "civil matter" :mad: If it was a car they would be more interested... GRRR
 
Quote "Where do we go now to recover our property - - ok the insurance paid out - but not full value and we had to pay an excess on the vehicle and another on our property that was stolen so are well in excess of £1,000 out of pocket!"

Unfortunately with the insurance company having paid you out the lorry is no longer your property. It doesn't matter if you actually lost out on the payout i.e. insurance excess etc
you have no claim on the lorry. The lorry belongs to the insurance company. The current 'owner/seller' even if an innocent purchaser does not own the vehicle as the original owner (in this case the Insurance company as the claim was settled) will always remain the owner. The Police should ideally seize the vehicle or at the bare minimum serve the current 'owner' a notice under Section 66 of the Police & Criminal Evidence Act. This notice tells the current owner/keeper/seller that they must not dispose of the vehicle, alter it etc etc otherwise they will be prosecuted. After that notice has been served a copy of the notice & full circumstances should be forwarded to the CPS for them to place the matter before ther Magistrates who will rule on ownership & they order the return of the vehicle to who they judge to be the owner. That's the bare minimum however the seller should really be arrested & interviewed regarding his possesion of the vehicle & depending on the result of the interview would depend on what happened next.

You need to put a letter of complaint into the Chief Constable of the Police Force who are refusing to get involved. Additionally I would probably contact the insurance company that settled your claim as they will be interested to recover their losses.

Good Luck.
 
I agree with Toby_Zaphod... however the problem lies in that the "vehicle" is not the thing stolen, its the parts ( the box ) i assume you mean belongs to you? The chasis is not stolen. So at the most you could be looking at getting the box part back but they are highly unlikely to give you the chasis as this didnt belong to you. And as quite rightly pointed out the vehicle or parts belong to your insurance company. Sometimes in these cases a judge rules the insurance company are the legal owners of the property and when the insurance offically own the property they then sell it at a cheap price to the original owner ( seeing as they have already paid out so therefore its not "given" back )
 
Just read this and it's pretty awful!! I do hope the arse hats that steal these boxes gets caught! Defo think you need to complain about the unhelpful police situation.
 
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