Hung up on livery…

LauraJay

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I’ve recently moved my 15yo warmblood gelding onto grass livery after having a baby. My previous yard was DIY stable and herd grazing, but horses had to come in every night due to lack of grass. I decided to move him as my income has gone down drastically while on maternity leave and also frees me up more time to get back to riding as baby is now three months old and I’m desperate to get back to it. Fields are chain harrowed and well managed, three fields to be rotated between, sprayed for rag etc. so there are no jobs to do just a welfare check when I go down.

My boy does like to be out at night during the summer but I’m not sure how he will be wintering out. They do have a shelter which they have access to though the YO says none of them use it.

Before I moved I’d also put my name down somewhere for stable and individual grazing where horses are only required to come in at night Dec to March. A space has come available on this yard for beginning of October and I’m super stuck on whether to move him or not. I’ve owned him for 8 years and through the whole time I’ve owned him he has always come in at night during the winter months.

One of the other reasons I chose to move is because he is a bit of a stress head and gets quite bad separation anxiety. If horses in the stables around him go out he will box walk and on occasions has tried to (once successfully) come over the stable door. I also found that when I had him in individual turnout previously, if he sees other horses around him being bought in he tends to fence walk. If both horses either side of him were bought in he would just bomb around the field until he was bought in, even if he there was still other horses out in the vicinity (it was a block of 8 individual paddocks). To try and resolve this I used to make sure he was the first horse out and bought in before his field neighbours. I thought maybe being out 24/7 would help him with this as there are a few retirees that never leave the field and it eliminates the stable aspect.

So my two questions are, am I just being daft for thinking he won’t manage being out 24/7 over the winter? And does anyone have experience with a horse with separation anxiety and how they managed this? Will constantly being out with other horses help?
 

turkana

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If there is plenty of grass I would stay where you are, do they get hay in the winter?
As he is a stress head I expect he will flourish on grass livery; modern rugs are fantastic, well rugged & fed I don't see why he won't do well. Having a stabled horse is so much more work & expensive - I'd jump at the chance to have your new set up!
 

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As long as he is well rugged and has plenty of forage, he should be fine living out over Winter and you will to have to worry about separation anxiety. I have not stabled a horse for more than fifteen years and they have all been fine.
 

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Some horses take to being out 24/7 all year round as others have said, but other horses not so much, so it is a difficult question to answer. Being a warmblood and no doubt being in a stable over night for most of his life, I would have my doubts. A friend tried the same thing but ended up going back into livery as her horse wasn't getting the specific care he required (nothing fancy). He came back very thin with rugs being torn from 'interaction' with others out in the field with him. It really depends on the horse as you will know how tough he is
 

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If there is plenty of grass I would stay where you are, do they get hay in the winter?
As he is a stress head I expect he will flourish on grass livery; modern rugs are fantastic, well rugged & fed I don't see why he won't do well. Having a stabled horse is so much more work & expensive - I'd jump at the chance to have your new set up!
Yes they have plenty of grass. YO said last year they bought in a round bale and about 20 small bales, they only put hay out on snow days and they still have hay leftover from winter.
 

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What kind of facilities does the current place have, thinking about winter and you wanting to get back in saddle? Is there somewhere you can bring in and tack up ect during winter?
 

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What kind of facilities does the current place have, thinking about winter and you wanting to get back in saddle? Is there somewhere you can bring in and tack up ect during winter?
Yes they have two tie up areas. One for summer and one for winter which has solar powered flood lights and rubber matting. They fence of a schooling area in the summer and have a set of show jumps and also have a field full of cross country jumps. YO is a very active member of the local riding club and arranges clinics etc at an arena which is 10 mins hack away. I prefer to hack out over anything else so it suits my riding needs fine, only really used the school in winter on week nights when it was too dark to go out. The other place does have an outdoor school but no lights so it’s not of any real benefit.
 

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I'd stay put especially if he's happy. I'd love to have mine out 24/7. They have to come in overnight from December to April and while it's manageable, it's so much easier in the summer and they're so much happier too. The only thing that could be an issue is if you need to box rest. Do you have a stable for emergency use and will he stay in it alone? If not, is there a small paddock for this eventuality.
 
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