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Why do we, the British, still have to continue to endure this oppression of not being allowed to hunt?

Whilst there is a clear invasion of privacy by former hunt saboteurs/agent provocateurs watching and filming every move of those trail hunting.

Whereas in France they freely hunt boar, stag and occasionally foxes.

"For example, you will hear the hunting horns will ring out their chorus across the courtyard of an old Cistercian abbey in the heart of Burgundy before any hunt. At the feast of St Hubertus - the patron saint of hunting. Before any hunt can begin, there is an outdoor mass of thanksgiving".
 
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Why do we, the British, still have to continue to endure this oppression of not being allowed to hunt?

Whilst there is a clear invasion of privacy by former hunt saboteurs/agent provocateurs watching and filming every move of those trail hunting.

Whereas in France they freely hunt boar, stag and occasionally foxes.

"For example, you will hear the hunting horns will ring out their chorus across the courtyard of an old Cistercian abbey in the heart of Burgundy before any hunt. At the feast of St Hubertus - the patron saint of hunting. Before any hunt can begin, there is an outdoor mass of thanksgiving".
 
rosiefronfelen said:
the large emoticon shows that Amymay is totally bored with you! Anyway, why not go to France and stay there?
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What have you ot against the French? Besides I hear hunting is totally different over there and much more "contained" in their areas compared to here.

Ignore it Rosie. It will only wind you up...!
 
rosiefronfelen said:
the large emoticon shows that Amymay is totally bored with you! Anyway, why not go to France and stay there?
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Rosie, I always feel I have been given the Hunt Button when you are one of the first to post on a new thread I have started.

As always, you are quick to honour me with the cutting whip. Giving me a good thrashing to remind me who is the boss!

When I wrote that thread, I said to myself "I bet Rosie tells me to push off to France - yet again".

I suppose if I were there and I could be, I could start writing about the fantastic hunts (with second horses) I was having after the boar & stag and how when it comes to the kill, the boar is 'served'.

Then everybody here would be jealous and complain I was just showing off about how lucky I was to enjoy real hunting, in country were the government actually encourages La Chasse - I always like the fact hunting is in the female in France.

But no matter Rosie, we shall overcome the little local difficulty concerning the Hunting Act 2004, even if the politicos are dragging their feet on the subject.

Amymay is a rabid Anti so her opinion is neither here nor there.
 
Paddydou said:
What have you ot against the French? Besides I hear hunting is totally different over there and much more "contained" in their areas compared to here.

Ignore it Rosie. It will only wind you up...!
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Ah Paddy, step into my office a moment if you will, I need a word with you.

I am not entirely sure about your hunting credentials, are you one of us, a traditionalist? Or one of these 'windy' ones, standing on the sidelines?

I noted you have a friend who is an Anti - apart with from the fact one is judged by the company one keeps, what have you done to convert her to the faith, in order to show your solidarity with the greater glory of hunting?

Forgive me it might be a him you have to convert and not a her?
 
amymay said:
Wrong and wrong.
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Then your attitude is completly wrong because our friends the French (bearing in mind the defence pact Prime Minister Cameron and Pesident Sarkosy signed yesterday in a bonding of extreme entent cordial).

They are hunting's ally in Europe, the cornerstone that will help us to get rid of the anti-hunting enemy.
 
Then your attitude is completly wrong
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What attitude? You are boring, predictable and above all such a terrible representative of the sport you purport to love so much.

And the French are absolutely no ally of ours in terms of hunting - as their opinion (apparently like mine) is worth nothing when it comes to our government (which ever one happens to be in power).

You are deluded, out of date and out of touch.
 
Judgemental said:
Why do we, the British, still have to continue to endure this oppression of not being allowed to hunt?

Whilst there is a clear invasion of privacy by former hunt saboteurs/agent provocateurs watching and filming every move of those trail hunting.

Whereas in France they freely hunt boar, stag and occasionally foxes.

"For example, you will hear the hunting horns will ring out their chorus across the courtyard of an old Cistercian abbey in the heart of Burgundy before any hunt. At the feast of St Hubertus - the patron saint of hunting. Before any hunt can begin, there is an outdoor mass of thanksgiving".
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I guess we just have to hope that at some point, someone will decide that the ban can be overturned and things can return to normal. But I can bet that those opposing it will up their antics if it DOES become legal again....
 
Judgemental said:
Ah Paddy, step into my office a moment if you will, I need a word with you.

I am not entirely sure about your hunting credentials, are you one of us, a traditionalist? Or one of these 'windy' ones, standing on the sidelines?

I noted you have a friend who is an Anti - apart with from the fact one is judged by the company one keeps, what have you done to convert her to the faith, in order to show your solidarity with the greater glory of hunting?

Forgive me it might be a him you have to convert and not a her?
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I would love to loose my rag with you JM but I actually feel very sorry for you.

I have friends that are pro and anti hunting. I have friends who are black white and all maner of inbetween. I have friends who are dentists, doctors, lawyers, binmen, cleaners, finacial advisors, bank managers... My friends are considered as such for their qualities and ability to stand by their beliefs whether I choose to follow the same or not.

Your recent tirades, accusations and bullying once again shows me that you are not a dangerous man at all. Just a very sad, lonely one who needs help. I feel ashamed that I may have been marching alongside you. I hope that you were not there. You bring disrepute to those who hunt and it is because of your very attitude that so many are opposing the repeal as you try to bully and harrass them into being on your side. Nothing but a bully and the very thing many dispise about hunting.

I may be on your side JM but I am not your friend and I am not particularly proud to associate with you in any shape or fashion.

Take a deep breath dear boy and visit your doctor.

Amymay - leave him be. Just because he hunts doesn't mean you have to be his friend. Just as you don't have to boosom buddies with everyone that likes Italian food! I don't think the French would have him... Aparently they have a wonderful time and don't suffer fools gladly...
 
Paddydou said:
I would love to loose my rag with you JM but I actually feel very sorry for you.

I have friends that are pro and anti hunting. I have friends who are black white and all maner of inbetween. I have friends who are dentists, doctors, lawyers, binmen, cleaners, finacial advisors, bank managers... My friends are considered as such for their qualities and ability to stand by their beliefs whether I choose to follow the same or not.

Your recent tirades, accusations and bullying once again shows me that you are not a dangerous man at all. Just a very sad, lonely one who needs help. I feel ashamed that I may have been marching alongside you. I hope that you were not there. You bring disrepute to those who hunt and it is because of your very attitude that so many are opposing the repeal as you try to bully and harrass them into being on your side. Nothing but a bully and the very thing many dispise about hunting.

I may be on your side JM but I am not your friend and I am not particularly proud to associate with you in any shape or fashion.

Take a deep breath dear boy and visit your doctor.

Amymay - leave him be. Just because he hunts doesn't mean you have to be his friend. Just as you don't have to boosom buddies with everyone that likes Italian food! I don't think the French would have him... Aparently they have a wonderful time and don't suffer fools gladly...
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All I have pointed out in this new thread is that the French hunt without let or hinderance from their government - what's wrong with that? Oh and they bless the huntsmen/women and hounds in church before the start of most hunts - how very civilised.

What else have I said, apart the daily whipping from Rosie, which in truth, I rather enjoy.

I make no secret of the fact I am a traditionalist.

Hopefully hunting a fox for a 5/6 mile point and taking on 25 or 30 hedges on bold Irish hunter.

In the alternative the stag for 10/15 miles.

I am not going to hide my light under a bushel, that's the hunting I wish to see restored and I aint going to go for any lilly livered half way house! Nor am I prepared to disguise the fact to all these Sabs, Antis and Agent Provocateurs.

May be there are those who post on this forum who like to think they hunt - when trail hunting, i.e. what is nothing better than a quiet predictable hack around the countryside. If that's their bag, fine. But don't expect me to support that as the 'Final Solution'.
 
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Judgemental said:
All I have pointed out in this new thread is that the French hunt without let or hinderance from their government - what's wrong with that.

I make no secret of the fact I am a traditionalist. Me too!
Hopefully hunting a fox for a 5/6 mile point and taking in 25 or 30 hedges. Maybe in the past! not now to old me not JMIn the alternative the stag for 10/15 miles.

I am not going to hide my light under a bushel, that's the hunting I wish to see restored and I aint going to go for any lilly livered half way house! Nor am I prepared to disguise the fact to all these Sabs, Antis and Agent Provocateurs. Hear hear
May be there are those who post on this forum who like to think they hunt - when trail hunting, i.e. what is nothing better than a quiet predictable hack around the countryside. If that's their bag, fine. But don't expect me to support that as the 'Final Solution'.
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For what it's worth 100% agree with that.
 
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Maesfen said:
Isn't that what Willie Poole did, thinking the grass was greener, when actually he's been quite disappointed at how things have changed over there as well?
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Yes you are right. I know Willie extremely well and I am surprised he stayed.

A great hunting man who speaks him mind and leaves nobody in any doubt as to his views. I like to think I have the same attitude!

Personally, I would just be a visitor to the French hunting. Having the best of the Deer and the Boar. I don't think I would entertain hunting the fox in France.

By the way I am thinking of changing my name on this forum from JM to Agent Provocateur - what do you all think?
 
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Simsar said:
For what it's worth 100% agree with that.
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I may agree with it Simsar but I have no wish to discuss such things with someone who is prepared to hurl insults at all and sundry because he feels like it that day. His behaviour of late has left much to be desired and while we may agree on many things I am afriad I can not condone the way in which he has bullied and antagonised both pro and anti hunt supporters recently. I am frankly embarrassed by his behaviour.

Would be nice to spend time watching the hounds work again though. Before and after the ban I have always enjoyed watching them go. Big sigh. Its their voices at full cry that makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand on end... Another big sigh.
 
Paddydou said:
I may agree with it Simsar but I have no wish to discuss such things with someone who is prepared to hurl insults at all and sundry because he feels like it that day. His behaviour of late has left much to be desired and while we may agree on many things I am afriad I can not condone the way in which he has bullied and antagonised both pro and anti hunt supporters recently. I am frankly embarrassed by his behaviour.

Would be nice to spend time watching the hounds work again though. Before and after the ban I have always enjoyed watching them go. Big sigh. Its their voices at full cry that makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand on end... Another big sigh.
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Who have I insulted, because I have never once on this Forum knowingly insulted anybody personally?

If calling or suggestign somebody an Anti if they disagree with me is not in my world an insult.

If anybody who supports the cause feels insulted in any way I would unreservedly apologise.

As for those against hunting - could not give a damn - they have had their innings and now is the time they left the field and we came back into bat!

You suggested I bullied - don't you feel bullied by the Hunting Act 2004?
 
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Judgemental said:
Who I have insulted, because I have never once on this Forum knowingly insulted anybody personally.

If calling or suggestign somebody an Anti if they disagree with me is not in my world an insult.

If anybody feels insulted in any way I would unreservedly apologise.
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I dispair of you I really do. Thank God for TFC.

The pills must be working today.
 
Paddydou, i am of the same opinion as you, he is a sad person and needs help as he seems to think that most people are now antis,so he is showing signs of delusion. I have many anti friends who are decent people( not scum!) we just dont discuss hunting.
 
rosiefronfelen said:
JM still has AH on his mind, talking of the" final solution"- get a grip man, or get some happy pills, i can recommend some!!
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What I find so terribly sad is that here is someone who is clearly passionate about Hunting who is more than happy to allow the perception that anyone not as passionate is clearly a balaclava wearing anti in disguise... Even worse he claims to speak for teh majority and drum up support for such tactics! Its just an enormous disapointment.

As for hunting in Frace as I understand it they have their own problems with lack of space more so than we do here even with our restrictions.

Each nation will encounter its own problems. Posie we eat cows which to some would be wrong! Keep an open mind (and a closed mouth if you are not willing to try) at the dinner table!
 
Paddydou said:
Posie we eat cows which to some would be wrong! Keep an open mind (and a closed mouth if you are not willing to try) at the dinner table!
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don't worry - i've eaten snails ;) and horse for that matter - very nice it was too

i've been there and got the t-shirt with the JM arguments so just couldn't be bothered to reply with something sensible - esp as you are so eloquently stating exactly what i'd so less-eloquently type :)
 
posie_honey said:
don't worry - i've eaten snails ;) and horse for that matter - very nice it was too

i've been there and got the t-shirt with the JM arguments so just couldn't be bothered to reply with something sensible - esp as you are so eloquently stating exactly what i'd so less-eloquently type :)
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Not had snails and found horse to be a touch strong in flavour for me but then I am not a great one for meat at any rate!

Blimey - I have been eloquent! that would be a first!
 
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