Hunting Crop

rosiefronfelen said:
some more antiquated history, my hubby has no idea on how to use a computer, never mind write on this board,he works from dawn to dusk on the farm anyway- we are fully aware of what still supposedly goes on thank you, now go away and fill some other poor persons head with your infinite knowledge!!
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Clearly this board is part of your own private country and I don't have your permission to hunt here?

There are others who are clearly interested in my 'infinite knowledge'. HuntingmadinEire for example.

Whatever the late great Captain Ronnie Wallace taught you, he neglected to tell you that everybody is welcome out hunting from whatever walk of life with great or little knowledge of hunting.

That I had from the 'horses mouth' Yes, I knew Ronnie Wallace too!
 
rosiefronfelen said:
permanently?
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Fiesty or what? Of course one of the joys of the Internet is that I could be Cork or County Tipperary or Leicestershire or Devon or Otoamato for that matter and I could still impart my infinite knowledge.

I say say chaps and chapesses, 'Infinite Knowledge'. I like that never really thought, being a modest and most 'umble cove that I had infinite knowledge.

Now hold hard a moment, it has occured to me some of The Field might not know where or indeed heard of Otomato
 
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Judgemental said:
Clearly this board is part of your own private country and I don't have your permission to hunt here?

There are others who are clearly interested in my 'infinite knowledge'. HuntingmadinEire for example.

Whatever the late great Captain Ronnie Wallace taught you, he neglected to tell you that everybody is welcome out hunting from whatever walk of life with great or little knowledge of hunting.

That I had from the 'horses mouth' Yes, I knew Ronnie Wallace too!
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oh goodo,knowing Ronnie, that was exactly how he felt about all walks of life and the folk who hunted with him- as for you hunt where the hell you like,you are obviously far too superior to hunt in this neck of the woods,but i would suggest that you brag a little less about your "infinite knowledge".we are happy in our little hunting world, ignorant or not!!
 
rosiefronfelen said:
oh goodo,knowing Ronnie, that was exactly how he felt about all walks of life and the folk who hunted with him- as for you hunt where the hell you like,you are obviously far too superior to hunt in this neck of the woods,but i would suggest that you brag a little less about your "infinite knowledge".we are happy in our little hunting world, ignorant or not!!
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Your words not mine as to my 'Infinite Knowledge' never occured to me. Who said anything about 'hignorance' - not me.

I may have injected a little variety into the discussions but there is no harm in that.

However my 'infinite knowledge' let me down, I spelt the Indian Hill Station of Ooty or Ootacamund incorrectly.

So what with lashes, whips, crops and thongs coupled to the odd Scentometer and the delights of Ooty I feel I have added a small cocktail of additional hunting memorabilia and general information useful or not as the case may be.

Also it shows those who are opposed to hunting the depth of intellectual history and geography that is so important to hunting people from one generation to another.
 
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Judgemental said:
Clearly this board is part of your own private country and I don't have your permission to hunt here?

There are others who are clearly interested in my 'infinite knowledge'. HuntingmadinEire for example.

Whatever the late great Captain Ronnie Wallace taught you, he neglected to tell you that everybody is welcome out hunting from whatever walk of life with great or little knowledge of hunting.

That I had from the 'horses mouth' Yes, I knew Ronnie Wallace too!
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did you, or did you not write here about your infinite knowledge?
 
Judgemental said:
Your words not mine as to my 'Infinite Knowledge' never occured to me. Who said anything about 'hignorance' - not me.

I may have injected a little variety into the discussions but there is no harm in that.

However my 'infinite knowledge' let me down, I spelt the Indian Hill Station of Ooty or Ootacamund incorrectly.

So what with lashes, whips, crops and thongs coupled to the odd Scentometer and the delights of Ooty I feel I have added a small cocktail of additional hunting memorabilia and general information useful or not as the case may be.

Also it shows those who are opposed to hunting the depth of intellectual history and geography that is so important to hunting people from one generation to another.
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ok--byeeee!!
 
rosiefronfelen said:
did you, or did you not write here about your infinite knowledge?
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You said in about half a dozen posts (actually 8 to be precise) hitherto and I quote "Originally Posted by rosiefronfelen some more antiquated history, my hubby has no idea on how to use a computer, never mind write on this board,he works from dawn to dusk on the farm anyway- we are fully aware of what still supposedly goes on thank you, now go away and fill some other poor persons head with your infinite knowledge!!"

The last two words of the quote. Now lets be fair about this, it was your view I had 'infinite knowledge' was it not?
 
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Oh please, a crop as you like to call it is useless without a lash, so in that case it is known as a whip. Otherwise it would be like car without an engine, a crop only exists in a hens throat as I have said before.
 
Judgemental said:
I once saw somebody bucked off when a whip was cracked by the rider.
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Very interesting post Judgemental.

I would only add that the person attempting to stop or turn hounds by cracking their whip should be in front of them before, else all you will manage is to lift the heads of the rest of the pack that aren't rioting and create more of a problem. I am very grateful that being a whipper-in to a foot pack I haven't got to worry about the horse as well!
 
A1fie said:
Judgemental - I also like what you have to say. I hope you stick around!
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A1fie, thank you and rest assured I shall continue to impart whatever 'infinite knowledge' I happen to have good, bad or indifferent. Also thank you Combat_Claire.

What I have learnt, in the very short time since I have signed up to comment on this forum, that there are 'attitudes' generally that explain why hunting gets a bad press. When clearly, there are people who have a hugely inflated sence of their own self importance and live in a remarkable micro-niche society, where they believe everything and the world revolves around their little rural bio-sphere.

There is a wider world who is very interested in the issues of hunting, it's history and it's people, practices and customs.

Not the least politicians, some of who may very well chose to join these debates by way of taking the temperature of the water.

Therefore, it is a good idea for all players on this board to be courteous to all participants, because one never knows who is watching and/or contributing!

I say that as a very serious word of warning to all concerned. Because, if I were an MP faced with the issues of the Repeal of the Hunting Act 2004, this is the first place I would come to find out what really makes hunting people tick.
 
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robcl said:
Where have people been able to find hunting crops? I am looking to get one to go with my side saddle costume which is an old hunting habit. I have a photo of the lady riding with a hunting crop rather than a side saddle cane and would like to do the same.
I am havign trouble locating one which is not hugly expensive, just wondered where everyone else had managed to pick them up?
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For the OP, Ian Burns from Lancashire repaired mine. He also makes them, very reasonably priced aswell.
 
Judgemental said:
A1fie, thank you and rest assured I shall continue to impart whatever 'infinite knowledge' I happen to have good, bad or indifferent. Also thank you Combat_Claire.

What I have learnt, in the very short time since I have signed up to comment on this forum, that there are 'attitudes' generally that explain why hunting gets a bad press. When clearly, there are people who have a hugely inflated sence of their own self importance and live in a remarkable micro-niche society, where they believe everything and the world revolves around their little rural bio-sphere.

There is a wider world who is very interested in the issues of hunting, it's history and it's people, practices and customs.

Not the least politicians, some of who may very well chose to join these debates by way of taking the temperature of the water.

Therefore, it is a good idea for all players on this board to be courteous to all participants, because one never knows who is watching and/or contributing!

I say that as a very serious word of warning to all concerned. Because, if I were an MP faced with the issues of the Repeal of the Hunting Act 2004, this is the first place I would come to find out what really makes hunting people tick.
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all referred to me of course, im not that thick!!!
 
Judgmental's last reply is a very wise one. What started as a simple enquiry into where one could obtain a whip/crop, call-it-what-you-like has degenerated into something else altogether which, while it makes very amusing reading indeed, probably doesn't do the hunting image much good. Nor does name-dropping.

Could we all agree that you can get such articles from a lovely chap in Lancashire, a well-known shop in London, and a delightful fellow in Devon - the David Thorne we know in the West Country is a butcher but perhaps he has a sideline! I dare someone now to start up on pink coats....
 
Rose Folly said:
Judgmental's last reply is a very wise one. What started as a simple enquiry into where one could obtain a whip/crop, call-it-what-you-like has degenerated into something else altogether which, while it makes very amusing reading indeed, probably doesn't do the hunting image much good. Nor does name-dropping.

Could we all agree that you can get such articles from a lovely chap in Lancashire, a well-known shop in London, and a delightful fellow in Devon - the David Thorne we know in the West Country is a butcher but perhaps he has a sideline! I dare someone now to start up on pink coats....
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David Thorne lives in the village of Lapford and has been making whips for years- ive been to his house. he also does excellent repair work( speaking from experience) and has a delightful web site. i wouldn't call this a sideline!! i have no intentionof discussing hunting coats or anything else.
 
Someone's a bit prickly!! Who needs the antis when you lot are squabbling and all on the same side. I haven't any names to drop so will just watch with amusement and disbelief.
 
In my opinion referring to anybody who shaped hunting and was one of the greats of hunting, such as His Grace the late Duke of Beaufort, The late Captain Ronnie Wallis, The late Sir Newton Rycroft, especially if those people are sadly no longer with us. Referring to their opinions, writings and hunting doctrines etc is not name dropping.

What I feel would consitute name dropping is talking about people with who one hunts, who shall we say are elevated in their own right, for whatever reason.

That is my Judgement but of course it is open to appeal
 
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Guess who I met today? The very man himself, Mr David Thorne (as mentioned earlier).

My wonderful, 110 yr old, crop that I use everyday - couldn't possibly do a gate without it - broke recently, much to my dismay. Since then it has been sitting in my car waiting to be taken somewhere to be fixed.

Well, as luck would have it, I was at the Mid Devon show today and whilst wondering around the trade stands I came across one selling hunting crops - I instantly recognised his name because I had read this thread just last night - very amusing it is too!

Can't wait to get my crop back!

PS: Judgemental - I think your posts are brilliant!
 
Ravenwood said:
Guess who I met today? The very man himself, Mr David Thorne (as mentioned earlier).

My wonderful, 110 yr old, crop that I use everyday - couldn't possibly do a gate without it - broke recently, much to my dismay. Since then it has been sitting in my car waiting to be taken somewhere to be fixed.

Well, as luck would have it, I was at the Mid Devon show today and whilst wondering around the trade stands I came across one selling hunting crops - I instantly recognised his name because I had read this thread just last night - very amusing it is too!

Can't wait to get my crop back!

PS: Judgemental - I think your posts are brilliant!
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Thank you Ravenwood.

Well seemingly my comments are welcome, so why not impart a further interesting feature.

It was my great privilage to have known the late Sir Dudley Forward a former Master of the New Forest Buckhounds (now disbanned) and Crown Equerry to the Duke of Windsor and Mrs Simpson.

Indeed it was Sir Dudley who was responsible for escorting them to Paris and settling them in their new home there, following the abdication.

Shortly after their arrival in Paris, 1936 I think, they were invited to a 'state' visit to Germany and met Adolf Hitler, indeed if you Google Sir Dudley, pictures of him can be found in company with the Windsors and Hitler.

On one occasion I had the opportunity of asking Sir Dudley about Hitler. I was about 16 at the time and a tad precocious, but Sir Dudley was a very kind person and would always impart as much information as asked.

I said, "Sir Dudley, may I ask you question concerning your visit to Germany". The reply, "dear boy ask anything you like". I said, "you met Hitler, what was he really like". "Oh very genial, you would have liked him he adored dogs and dogs adored him". "But Sir Dudley he banned hunting". "Yes dear boy that was rather unfortunate, in this world world we all make make mistakes and that was Hitler's"

Readers will note that banning hunting was in the conversation to be considered Hitler's greatest mistake.

Not wishing to completely detract from the originating subject, Sir Dudley could also crack a whip that sounded like gunfire!
 
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