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well much as I am sure that JFTD doesn't need me to support her I think it is fair to say that Fergus did not jump like a 'normal' pony in either of those pics and that when he is a little less 'special' and baby ponyish she does an absolutely fine job!
 
ester said:
well much as I am sure that JFTD doesn't need me to support her I think it is fair to say that Fergus did not jump like a 'normal' pony in either of those pics and that when he is a little less 'special' and baby ponyish she does an absolutely fine job!
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No, I don't, since I did somewhat ask for that response by posting those photos, but it is very muchly appreciated none the less :)
 
PickledPony said:
JFTD Wouldnt it be more beneficial to yourself to find your balance and position before jumping your pony.... horses can turn sour and can only put up with so much even the usually forgiving highland
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:eek::eek:
Jeez get over yourself..that was a bit unnecessary.
Even the most experienced among us can get left behind at a fence. No horse is entirely predictable when jumping - even the professionals have issues sometimes (have you ever watched a 4*?)
Everyone has the odd disaster over a jump even after years and years of riding.
I'm just going to find my balance and position now - although after 30 years of riding I may never find it :rolleyes:
 
Always Henesy said:
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Jeez get over yourself..that was a bit unnecessary.
Even the most experienced among us can get left behind at a fence. No horse is entirely predictable when jumping - even the professionals have issues sometimes (have you ever watched a 4*?)
Everyone has the odd disaster over a jump even after years and years of riding.
I'm just going to find my balance and position now - although after 30 years of riding I may never find it :rolleyes:
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I did ask for it, to be entirely fair.

I've given up looking for my balance and position. I've found it much more effective to look for the neckstrap instead :D Much less trouble to find - mostly because it's anchored right there in front of you :p
 
Im going off the comment - having a neck strap isn't enough I have one on in those photos, I am just too incompetent to have hold of it at the right moments!


Was a valid suggestion with no offense intended. If more people rode school masters to learn a feel for a seat and balance over fence rather than novicely riding their youngsters over fences then advise such as mine would not need to be given.
 
PickledPony said:
JFTD Wouldnt it be more beneficial to yourself to find your balance and position before jumping your pony.... horses can turn sour and can only put up with so much even the usually forgiving highland.
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I'd love to see you bring on a green youngster as well as JFTD has with Fergs. She would be more than welcome to ride ANY horse I may own. On the basis of 2 photos you are able to judge her riding proficiency? Look at ANY rider, professional, experienced, novice, whatever... EVERYONE will have photos that look like JFTD's, only a lot of people don't have the guts to post them publicly and prefer people only to see the sanitised version :rolleyes:

Making comments like that defines you as a person rather than JFTD as a rider I'm afraid :rolleyes: :rolleyes: You may find her neckstrap comment should be taken tongue in cheek as she is not one to big up her (pretty darn good) riding skills.

ETA having seen your latest and even more ridiculous post, obviously you believe that ANYONE who has EVER had a sticky moment on a horse should be restricted to riding schoolmasters. Utter madness :rolleyes:
 
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PickledPony said:
Was a valid suggestion with no offense intended. If more people rode school masters to learn a feel for a seat and balance over fence rather than novicely riding their youngsters over fences then advise such as mine would not need to be given.
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What makes you think he's young, out of interest? Or indeed, that I haven't spent many years riding schoolmasters?

If we're sharing free advice, I'll invite you to revisit the appropriate use of "s" or "c" in certain words...
 
*holds up hand*

I've got some crackers of me and my 19 yo schoolmasterish thing ... hmm maybe not, perhaps just old ;) :D.

I think the point with regards to that is that 1) a photo is a moment in time, can be a fraction of a second of someone caught badly. 2) we all therefore look rubbish sometimes and some of us actually are rubbish!

I do again think it is down to proportions, I reckon I would let the side down if photographed with my hunt but the majority would look like v good riders!
 
I was responding to your comment that even with a neck strap you struggle. What is it with people these days unable to take constructive critism. Your friend ester and rhino mentions he was baby ponyish and a youngster at the time. Hence what may have been an assumption.

rhino bore off, you don't know me, what I do for do for a living nor what horses I have brought on. If you feel it is inconceivable for those needing to enhance their riding skills on a school master then your obviously perfect and I will see you at HOYS.
 
so glad you posted that Rhino. So many 'up our own bottoms' on here. Is no one allowed to actually enjoy ridding anymoer? Lord they make me laugh, well, cringe to be honest:D
 
PickledPony said:
Hence what may have been an assumption.
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May have been?! :confused:

rhino bore off, you don't know me, what I do for do for a living nor what horses I have brought on. If you feel it is inconceivable for those needing to enhance their riding skills on a school master then your obviously perfect and I will see you at HOYS.
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Please don't tell me to 'bore off' (though I have no idea what that means :confused:), this is a public forum and I am perfectly entitled to state my opinions. Perhaps if you stick around a bit longer you will realise that!

I don't care what you do as a living, I do care when you insult posters you have no knowledge of.

Please also state where I said it was 'inconceivable' that people should ride schoolmasters? Somehow I don't think you will be able to.

And no, I won't see you at HOYS as I have absolutely no interest in showing thanks ;) :)
 
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JFTD said:
What like this?
That's my horse and me riding. I'm not perfect. Like the kids in those photos, sometimes I screw up. I don't think my horse has been ruined by these experiences. It doesn't make me a cruel heartless *******. It might make me a shockingly bad xc rider, but that, asaik is not a crime.

Perhaps you'd like to report me too? :confused:
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I've been called cruel too (not on this thread, a while back) because Ned took off a stride and a half early and I landed a bit heavy on his back. We did it again and all was fine. He wasn't put off and was having a great time!
Like you said, people make mistakes. Sometimes, sure, it is someone being cruel or unnecessary, but most of the time I'd say they were taken by surprise, or maybe need some more lessons.
 
Annielusian said:
Like you said, people make mistakes. Sometimes, sure, it is someone being cruel or unnecessary, but most of the time I'd say they were taken by surprise, or maybe need some more lessons.
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Annie, even the best riders in the world don't get it right every time! Yes, of course you always want to improve but you've got to stop beating yourself up if you don't do something perfectly (not you personally, but you know what I mean :D )

Seriously, have a look through the thread I've posted if you haven't seen it before, it's very funny and not cruel in the slightest!
 
Advise was given in lieu of the following....
JFTD said:
having a neck strap isn't enough :( I have one on in those photos, I am just too incompetent to have hold of it at the right moments!
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ester said:
well much as I am sure that JFTD doesn't need me to support her I think it is fair to say that Fergus did not jump like a 'normal' pony in either of those pics and that when he is a little less 'special' and *baby ponyish* she does an absolutely fine job!
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JFTD said:
I did ask for it, to be entirely fair.

I've given up looking for my balance and position. I've found it much more effective to look for the neckstrap instead :D Much less trouble to find - mostly because it's anchored right there in front of you :p
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rhino said:
I'd love to see you bring on a *green youngster* as well as JFTD has with Fergs.
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Was I making an assumption was Ferg not a youngster in these pictures? I have not been corrected. At no point was this a dig at JFTD general capabilities more an observation based on her own posts.
 
I think people are forgetting the conditions that these horses are being put through.

Yes the tack is not always correct, yes the riders are not all in the perfect position, yes the horses do look well and happy in some photos.

But would we hunt/xc our own horses in these conditions.......
I personally would not.
 
PickledPony said:
Advice was given in lieu of the following....

Was I making an assumption was Ferg not a youngster in these pictures? I have not been corrected. At no point was this a dig at JFTD general capabilities more an observation based on her own posts.
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Were you making an assumption? Yes
Were you making a correct assumption? Yes, Fergs is a youngster

However, maybe you could consider giving advice when you are actually asked for it?! After all, you are an 'unknown' poster who to all of our knowledge may have never sat on a horse before!

ETA With the 4 posts you quoted, only 2 referred to Fergs as a youngster. Mine was posted after your initial post so it's not really a valid part of your 'argument' :rolleyes:
 
rhino said:
Annie, even the best riders in the world don't get it right every time! Yes, of course you always want to improve but you've got to stop beating yourself up if you don't do something perfectly (not you personally, but you know what I mean :D )

Seriously, have a look through the thread I've posted if you haven't seen it before, it's very funny and not cruel in the slightest!
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I love that thread :P Always gives me a good giggle! (I've posted on it too, so people can giggle at me! Only fair :P)
The amount of videos on youtube of professional riders falling off or making mistakes is incredible!
 
PickledPony said:
Im going off the comment - having a neck strap isn't enough I have one on in those photos, I am just too incompetent to have hold of it at the right moments!


Was a valid suggestion with no offense intended. If more people rode school masters to learn a feel for a seat and balance over fence rather than novicely riding their youngsters over fences then advise such as mine would not need to be given.
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ive never sat on a school master does that make me a cr*p rider ? because that is the way you are coming across ie stuck up and rude
 
No assumptions made........ you both commented on JFTD's behalf. Ferg was / is / may be a youngster. Post pictures and tell us you struggle without a neck strap for balance people will make suggestions. That was all I did. Yes I'm not a "heavy poster" I tend to steer clear of this forum specifically due to reactions like yours. OTT and very reactive, read what has been wrote.... what was to expected seriously.

There is no excuse for what goes on during this hunt clubs meets. Posting a picture of yourself in a compromising position and saying look we all do it so it must be ok on an emotive thread will prompt discussion. That is all I have to say. I am NOT going to defend my capabilities or experience that is rediculous and totally irrelevent to this topic.

I suggest people watch the videos again........
 
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You've got plenty of mane to grab hold of though!!
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yes, quite right. I fail...

PickledPony said:
No assumptions made........ you both commented on JFTD's behalf. Ferg was / is / may be a youngster. Post pictures and tell us you struggle without a neck strap for balance people will make suggestions.

forgive me, I asked what made you think that as, at the time, it was an assumption based solely on Ester's description of him as baby-like, which struck me as one of two remarkable leaps of assumption, for someone who didn't know me. I wondered if there was a faint scent of rodent, but I am probably mistaken. However, I think you misunderstand the neckstrap comments, which were an attempt at humour. That's my mistake, of course.

Posting a picture of yourself in a compromising position and saying look we all do it so it must be ok on an emotive thread will prompt discussion.
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Yes, and that is why I maintain that I did ask for it and you have every right to make the comments you made, whether I agree with them or not. You made those posts with a degree of certainty in the knowledge that I would see them and possibly find them hurtful.

How do you think that the kids in the photos of that meet felt having seen some of the truly vile accusations of their cruelty posted on that site?

Annielusian said:
I've been called cruel too (not on this thread, a while back) because Ned took off a stride and a half early and I landed a bit heavy on his back. We did it again and all was fine. He wasn't put off and was having a great time!
Like you said, people make mistakes. Sometimes, sure, it is someone being cruel or unnecessary, but most of the time I'd say they were taken by surprise, or maybe need some more lessons.
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Everyone makes mistakes. It's not cruel to screw up - it's dumb not to learn from it or to put your horse in a dangerous situation, but a loss of balance is hardly that. The world is full of armchair experts- don't let them get to you. Being your own biggest critic is, imo, a good thing, but there are times you have to draw the line and dismiss that sort of accusation.

JFTD said:
I've given up looking for my balance and position. I've found it much more effective to look for the neckstrap instead :D Much less trouble to find - mostly because it's anchored right there in front of you :p
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This comment was completely tongue in cheek. I rarely ride with a neckstrap, if I'm honest. I have one for xc and horseball. When I take him to xc again next year, I will be making a more conscious effort to have a hand on the neck strap when he does his stag impersonation.
 
PickledPony said:
JFTD Wouldnt it be more beneficial to yourself to find your balance and position before jumping your pony.... horses can turn sour and can only put up with so much even the usually forgiving highland.
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Nothing like being patronising is there? :rolleyes:

I am quite sure that there has been a moment when you have tumbled from that pedestal of yours and not slipped your reins or have landed awkwardly too.
 
This thread seems to have become personal.

To bring it back to the original link, can any of you honestly defend the pictures. Yes we all can get left behind on occasion but are standards slipping to the point of the original pictures becoming acceptable?
 
VOM said:
This thread seems to have become personal.

To bring it back to the original link, can any of you honestly defend the pictures. Yes we all can get left behind on occasion but are standards slipping to the point of the original pictures becoming acceptable?
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Agreed
 
JFTD said:
Everyone makes mistakes. It's not cruel to screw up - it's dumb not to learn from it or to put your horse in a dangerous situation, but a loss of balance is hardly that. The world is full of armchair experts- don't let them get to you. Being your own biggest critic is, imo, a good thing, but there are times you have to draw the line and dismiss that sort of accusation.
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Thank you :) Having seen photos of your and your videos, you're a very talented rider! I can't fathom how you can teach them to do all those nifty things! Bravo :D


VOM said:
To bring it back to the original link, can any of you honestly defend the pictures. Yes we all can get left behind on occasion but are standards slipping to the point of the original pictures becoming acceptable?
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I didn't see the original pics :( I'm curious but from the comments they don't sound nice.
 
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