Huuuge horse!
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kez81
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In conjunction with a thorough vetting , I would have thought that would be obvious? Physios often pick up things missed by vets and vice versa, at that sort of price I would be wanting to cover all bases.
Equine_Dream
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Im actually a little shocked at the nastiness in some of these comments. Ok so hes not perfect, doesnt mean he deserves to be written off as a "flat backed cow hocked camel" or just out and out "yuk". Maybe Im just a little sensitive but it just comes across as so shallow and cold. He seems like he has a good heart to me. Im sure he'll b3 snapped up very quickly.
RunToEarth
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The seller is asking for £5,500 for this animal - I'm sure people are more than entitled to comment on his bad conformation if it helps someone thinking of buying who can't see it (!). I doubt the horse will ever read these comments and as he is being sold by a dealer I doubt she minds much either - I wonder whether the price tag is purely on merit of his size? I can't see what else is going for him?
Equine_Dream
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Yes people are perfectly entitled to comment. Equally so am I. I have no issue with people saying he has bad conformation - its how people are saying it I find distasteful.
Also there is no need to be facetious. The comment about the horse getting offended was quite unnecessary. Also I never mentioned concern over the dealer getting offended did I?
I was simply stating that I personally found some of the comments a bit nasty. People are entitled to their view but equally so am I.
hippocobamus
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19.3hh!! No thanks!
ester
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Horses do get that big but I'm unconvinced that warmbloods do 
I also assumed he was an ungainly 4 yo but apparently not, how much :eek3:
I also assumed he was an ungainly 4 yo but apparently not, how much :eek3:
_Annie_
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I wonder if he's a polish warmblood cross rather than pure? I know Silesians can be pretty massive, a friend has a 16.3 & he's built like the proverbial outhouse - maybe he's a cross of one of those? They're still used for logging.
_Annie_
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Off to Google cos I think the Silesian only comes in bay!
Goldenstar
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Nothing shallow about my yuk comment nothing would induce me to consider such a horse .
I think it's very sad that horses are born with poor conformation but there's no point in beating about the bush .
HollyWoozle
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I saw this advert yesterday and am sure something isn't right behind. I feel sorry for him really, looks like a lovely, good-natured sort. From a personal point of view his conformation wouldn't necessarily put me off (if I was looking for a BFG!) but I don't think he looks comfortable and that would.
Having said that, I'm no expert at all and perhaps that's just how he is. I hope he finds a happy home whatever the case.
Having said that, I'm no expert at all and perhaps that's just how he is. I hope he finds a happy home whatever the case.
Molly'sMama
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Horses do get that big but I'm unconvinced that warmbloods do
I also assumed he was an ungainly 4 yo but apparently not, how much :eek3:
I worked at a yard that had a full blooded, papered warmblood at 18.3hh, as a livery. He just kept on growing.
Poor owner had bought him at a [decent] auction as a 16hh 3 year old but he just carried on. All his tack had to be custom made, she even needed a custom mounting block!!!
Equine_Dream
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Debatable whether it was shallow but it certainly came across as cold. Youre perfectly entitled to your view of course, but tbh this thread illustrates everything I dislike about the horsey world and think I shall bow out gracefully at this point.
RunToEarth
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You are being incredibly precious.
ester
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We aren't very fluffy here ED!
MM 18.3 I can sort of see, but 19.3 not so much!
MM 18.3 I can sort of see, but 19.3 not so much!
Nessa4
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My thoughts entirely. Possibly a very nice chap, but wouldn't want the feed/tack/vet's bills!
B&J
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She's 5.2ft
spottybotty
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I thought the same, it doesnt look 100% sound in the video, something going on with the backend for sure.
AdorableAlice
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It was me that said flat backed etc etc, I look at a horse for what it is structurally and fail to see that a few moments of video can result in declaring it has a kind heart or is a sweet boy. I cringe when I go buying with people and they declare it has a pretty face, you don't ride it's face, it's long mane or fluffy tail.
The practicalities of keeping the coloured horse are immense and he would be a vet's worst nightmare. Personally I love a big horse and have owned a super HW show hunter who was 18h and beset with soundness problems from the age of 8, lost to colic at 13 on the operating table. I will never forget taking him in and overhearing the vets talking about the dropping and lifting him logistics, and being warned about the massive risk of raising him after surgery. He weighed just under 1000kg.
Historically heavy horses were not bred for their height, a traditional Shire was not 18h, what use is a horse of that size to a farmer logging or working in tight areas.
If a horse is correct in its conformation you will not be able to judge the height until you are right up to it.
The practicalities of keeping the coloured horse are immense and he would be a vet's worst nightmare. Personally I love a big horse and have owned a super HW show hunter who was 18h and beset with soundness problems from the age of 8, lost to colic at 13 on the operating table. I will never forget taking him in and overhearing the vets talking about the dropping and lifting him logistics, and being warned about the massive risk of raising him after surgery. He weighed just under 1000kg.
Historically heavy horses were not bred for their height, a traditional Shire was not 18h, what use is a horse of that size to a farmer logging or working in tight areas.
If a horse is correct in its conformation you will not be able to judge the height until you are right up to it.
Emmangel
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Poor chap. I thought the post was about his size. He's just had conformation assassination
fatpiggy
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I was asked to exercise a 17.2hh Hannovarian with the smallest feet in existence, and not surprisingly they crumbled under his weight constantly. He was as long as you like and it was like turning an ocean liner. I'm only 5'4" and even with spurs I struggled to get his hindlegs up and under him. I have to say this chap is obliging because I doubt he could really feel the rider's leg aids since they barely clear the saddle flaps! £5.5K is a ridiculous amount for an 11 year old with no history, but perhaps they have put a premium on for the fact he is coloured Like an earlier poster, I noticed his right hind wasn't moving properly. Given his flat back I'd be concerned that his lower back, into the sacroiliac is in need of urgent attention and it may well have become permanently stiff. Poor boy, I suspect he could be an example of home-grown breeding with not much thought or common sense behind it. I think if he was up for £1000 he might find a tall person who is happy to plod about and admire the scenery - you would certainly be able to see over hedges on him! Oh and when I was tacking up the biggish boy, I nearly gave myself a hernia lifting his saddle completely over my head to get it up over his withers. Rugs weighed a ton too.
Like an earlier poster, I noticed his right hind wasn't moving properly. Given his flat back I'd be concerned that his lower back, into the sacroiliac is in need of urgent attention and it may well have become permanently stiff. Poor boy, I suspect he could be an example of home-grown breeding with not much thought or common sense behind it. I think if he was up for £1000 he might find a tall person who is happy to plod about and admire the scenery - you would certainly be able to see over hedges on him! Oh and when I was tacking up the biggish boy, I nearly gave myself a hernia lifting his saddle completely over my head to get it up over his withers. Rugs weighed a ton too.fatpiggy
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Indeed, Shires and the other heavies were only bred for a relatively short time, to be mega-sized because (sadly) it was a fad to see who could breed the biggest one in Britain. WHat farmer wants a working something that is too big to get in the stable, hard to turn, hard to trace up, costs a bomb in oats and hay, keeps the farrier in cash single handed and is more likely to have problem legs? He wants something compact, sturdy, sensible and a with a good power to size ratio. Hence a shire was generally around 16 hh.
r.e.d
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A lot of the poorer examples of coloured Polish WB's have similar back ends I have noticed. I'm sure he will be snapped up by someone!
npage123
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The small schooling area certainly didn't do him any favours. I hope he ends up in a loving home with someone who doesn't mind his less than perfect conformation and action, someone with deep pockets and a spacious yard.
rara007
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And think of how much bigger this chap is! (think of a 15.3 and 16.3!)
Paint Me Proud
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for those wondering how he is bred
https://angloeuropeanstudbook.com/database/04-011137-pintofields-azkaban-maine
https://angloeuropeanstudbook.com/database/04-011137-pintofields-azkaban-maine