I am absolutely raging!

I also think I'm right in thinking a few HHOers have met the boy concerned and can vouch for his manners and mature attitude.

On the flipside a friend of ours is a school bus driver and saved a little lad's life (he was choking and going blue). Friend had no mobile, was in the middle of nowhere, and ended up having to smack the child hard in the back.... and then felt he had to aplogise to the parents and school for "hitting" the boy
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Thankfully the parents were just so grateful, but isnt it bad when you get drivers who abuse their position making it harder for those who really do care about their jobs?
 
You might get some answers as it's public/transport..
With contract Busses they can do what they like with your kids&throw them off accordingly..esp when the bus escort takes a personal dislike to next victim!..
Some organisations take great delight in thinking they can rule the world..Hilter did it!!!
 
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You might get some answers as it's public/transport..
With contract Busses they can do what they like with your kids&throw them off accordingly..esp when the bus escort takes a personal dislike to next victim!..
Some organisations take great delight in thinking they can rule the world..Hilter did it!!!

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FGS, no they cannot. A bus driver on a private contract is held responsible for the children until they reach their stop.
 
Bus drivers can be a law unto themselves. I was run of the road by a bus last week. It was going extremely fast overtaking parked cars and just kept coming, I had to mount the pavement to avoid it, as did the traffic following me.

Hope this driver gets into trouble, it is no way to behave.
 
I would get a lawyer for the civil suit against the bus company. With a police report, witnesses it would be a slam dunk!
 
Two points:

1. A vehicle stopping is BRAKING not BREAKING (sorry, just bugs me).

2. I moved seats this morning on my bus because the heater was practically melting my trousers - does that make me a bad person?!!?

The bus drivers round my way are utterly vile - I have made about 10 complaints about them. They drive awfully, they have damaged my car, and I've been thrown on the floor once due to them braking excessively sharply. Oh and I do have to stand up before my stop because they only open the door for a few seconds at a time, so if I'm sitting at the back of the bus I have to get up before it's stopped.

Hope you get a result from the bus company.
 
Well the latest was a call from "one" of the managers.... to inform me that the driver has been put on another route and would not be on this route again and his future depends on the outcome of any legal proceedings....
It appears that other parents have complained as well....
As for witnesses, I have found out today that another child on the bus actually rang his mother whilst all this was happening as he was scared!!!!
Case of SLAM DUNK I think!
 
They are gathering the other statements first, and now need to see another 2/3 people, then they will be going to see him.... Its rather drawn out as I am in one county, and reported to my area, and the company is another county so they have to liase with the other police force....
I shall keep you all updated tho....
 
i completely disagree with your actions I'm afraid.
Sorry but your son should have been in his seat with his seat belt on and enjoying the privilege of being carted to and from school..
If he's got a red mark on his arm the little so and so deserves it for being so arguementative, if told to get off the bus, he should comply.
Mother's like you make me soooo cross.
I don't suppose before you jumped in causing a hell of a fuss you actually asked him why he was out of his seat?
Once upon a time adults got respect from children, now their parents appear to condone bad behaviour ..
He was lucky he didn't distract the driver and cause an accident, would you have blamed the bus driver then?
I have seen some of the school runs and some kids are like wild animals..
for whatever reason yours' wasn't sitting down, so how do you know the drive didn't have to make an emergency stop? because your son says so.. he wasn't driving though was he?
I think you should be eating humble pie tomorrow and apologising for your badly behaved child, not raving at the bus company...
What sort of masseage are you giving your child? misbehave, and Mum will come and defend you even if you are in the wrong?
I wonder what he will do when an adult and faced with trouble, no doubt blame the nearest person after an example like you've set..
 
I have to say, I sort of agree with HH here, sorry.

I was called last week by the bus company who runs the school buses over here to let me know that my daughter was coming home with a REPORT for standing up to change seats whilst the bus was in motion. If she gets another 2 reports then she is suspended from going on the bus for a period of time.

The first thing I thought of was to ask my daughter what in the world she was doing out of her seat when it is perfectly clear to her that you are NOT allowed to do this. Her excuse was, she wanted to move down the bus so that she didn't have to walk so far to the door when it came to her stop????
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Well I told her that this was more than illogical as she still had to walk the same distance LOL!! But at least when the bus stopped at her stop it would be stopped.

Anyway the tail end of my story is that she was told off by me for wandering around on the bus whilst it was in motion.

Just one other pointer; no matter how lovely your children are with their parents and with friends of their parents, I can pretty much guarantee you they are rarely like this with people of no consequence to themselves or their family.
 
Public transport does not provide seatbelts!!! And like many people, they do tend to move when approaching their stop.....
obviously from your comments, you are the type of person who would also man handle someone else's child....
If you read the full post, you would also see statements made regarding my little so and so and his manners and that is from people who know him personally!
I would actually be more concerned with the fact that this driver only the day before was displaying road rage to other drivers on the road in two seperate incidents - which says a dam sight more about his character than "mothers like me"
And as for having the privilege of being carted to and from school.... people pay for a service such as public transport, its not a privilege!
This was not a "school run" this is route on public transport!
And as for eating humble pie - why? I would have thought it far worse to totally ignore the actions of this driver so that he continues down this course with his behaviour and does ultimately end up hurting someone, whether it be by his wreckless attitude to the safety of passengers or from his obvious loss of control and maturity?
And as for eating humble pie..... not tonight thanks... I've just had a three course meal and really couldn't fit anything else in....
Mothers like me make you cross??? Would you rather I was one of those mothers that didn't care and let my little so and so out till all hours causing trouble, hanging around on street corners in gangs or even allowing him to get an ASBO? I dont think so!
 
Oh believe me, he knows if he steps over the line the wrath that rains down on him from me.....
I am sure there are people on here, who know me personally.... will vouch for that fact!
 
Well if it's any consolation, even though I told my daughter off for wandering about the bus, I honestly think that I would have also seen red if her bus driver were to grab her by the arm and verbally threaten her.....
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So I can see both sides to this; the point is, if your son wasn't wandering around, then this wouldn't have happened. However in the same breath, the bus driver definitely over-stepped the mark.
 
Myself being a retired coach driver and over the years have done many school runs private and contract, can actually sympathise with the driver, he has a thankless job, probably being paid minimum wage to be abused, spat at, and in my brothers case stabed several times. The driver has a forty foot vehical to control has taken several driving tests to do so, but taking control of upto 50 children ( animals) is a dam sight harder. Your child was putting the rest of the chilldren on the bus at RISK by disturbing the drivers concentration, believe me if the bus had done an emergency stop, it would have stoped before your son, he would have been out through the window screen, Then the driver would have probably had to face the charges of manslaughter, as it is he will be arrested, and let off with a caution.......all for £5.60ph
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Have to agree with HH and tia...

I get a school bus and some of the kiddies are right little s**** and tbh have had to restrain myself from grabbing hold of some of them and slapping them myself.
one little twat spat at a driver once
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What was your son doing out of his seat? and tbh, societys gone mental if a bus driver cant restrain a child in their care.
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So everyone who gets up and walks down the bus everyday of the week, for their stop is in the wrong then?
If this is the case and has been for years, why is there not a sign on public transport stating that passengers should remain seated until the vehicle is stationary? Whilst I feel for your brother and his injuries, can I ask if he ever man handled a minor and then threatened him as well? I doubt it!
 
I have met your son... he is a VERY mild mannered boy. TBH if the rules are *when bus is in motion you must not move seat* then he shouldn't have moved - BUT, anyone that condones the bus drivers actions after said movement is away with the faries....to slam brakes on (endangering EVERY life on the bus), manhandle your son and scream in his face...come on, who wants a bus driver like that!
 
Fair enough for the driver to tell him off but to threaten him as well as physically GRABBING hold of him enough to leave marks....well thats a bit over the top.
 
Sorry I assumed like all the children in this area, he is bussed to school on a series of buses and coaches, all of which here are fitted with seat belts.
The problem is reading your post is you took his word as gospel.
Are you honestly saying he did nothing else whatsoever other than move seats once and that so enraged the bus driver he slammed the brakes on to deliberatley hurt him?
As an outsider I'm sorry I don't believe it.
I bet the kids were doing all sorts before he had to brake, and as I said previously, your son was not looking out the front of the bus so how would he know why the driver braked?
It doesn't make one jot of difference whether he is a well mannered polite little boy in adult company, I'm sure he is; but on a bus with no adult supervision you have no conception of what they get up to!
My three kids all travelled on two separate buses twice a day to their college, and you would be very shocked to see what went on. Seats destroyed, a window pushed out, fights etc, and I know this is true because one bus driver lives along the lane from me., and all the kids on those buses are from what you would call respectable areas.
I think if you quiz your son closely enough and his friends you might find he has only told you half a story. i think perhaps you jumped to his defence too quickly to be honest.
As for manhandling, sorry I am a Jeremy Clarkson type rather than the other way, and by the sound of it your son flatly refused to get off the bus and argued with the driver, I don't think he should have manhandled him but I can see how and why it happened, the poor chap was probably at the end of his tether atempting to drive a bus load of unruly children..
I wouldn't be a bus driver for any amount of money, the stories I heard from my lot are enough to make your blood run cold, round here the lanes are narrow with passing places, and a driver needs every inch of concentration to keep the kids safe..
The other thing I wondered about, if this wasn't a school bus, weren't there any other adults on it? Haven't any of them complained?
I can well understand your fury, when your child is threatened you do leap to it's defence, but you do sound a bit blinkered, and perhaps having brought up three kids to adulthood makes me a bit more inclined to see sometimes children twist the tale a little to suit themselves....
from what you've said you are hoping to get the driver sacked, well is that fair if for instance he did brake to avoid something, or are you so totally convinced your son neve ever tells a porkie?
 
Oh my gosh, I can't believe the amount of people who are being so ridiculous in this thread!!

Ok, I understand that the bus driver's job is a stressful one and that children can be hard work - but does anyone here REALLY believe that because a boy moved seats he deserves to be grabbed, shouted at and threatened???

So he maybe shouldn't have been standing up. Fine. The driver could have called back to him to please sit down and don't move as its dangerous, explaining to him that it was for his own benefit. And maybe the driver did brake for a hazard in the road. Ok, he could have called back sorry for that, I had to brake for that cat/dog/child/granny/car in the road.

What is not acceptable in ANY way is the physical and verbal abuse that this child received. I am young, I'm only 23 and it wasn't so long ago I was taking public transport to school and uni and yes, I know that school kids can be little sh*ts as I was on the receiving end of the public school kids who despised and assaulted us private school snobs (yes, that's right I MUST be a snob because I went to private school, we'll ignore the fact that my mother was a single parent with 3 jobs and we lived in a council flat, because apparently I'm a snob either way) but there ARE good kids out there and even if the driver WAS stressed and tired and sick of certain kids misbehaving he should NOT be in a job such as his if he is unable to continue in a reasonable and calm manner without resorting to physical violence.

End of rant.

PS ArcAngelOvidius , good luck with your chasing, I really hope you get somewhere so that other kids and maybe even adults don't have to go through the same ordeal

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Thank you.... I shall hopefully have an update this week.... but for now the driver has been interviewed by the bus company and he has been taken off that route and placed miles away..... ultimately it is now up to the police to investigate this and proceed as they see fit
 
I have just read through this whole thread and I cannot believe what i am reading.
Ok, I think that maybe he shouldnt have been out of his seat but i wander down the bus when i'm nearing my stop and I have never been manhandled!
This driver should be banned from transporting people with immediate effect. All people. He should not be grabbing children's arms. Full Stop. And as for slamming the brakes on, fair enough there could have been an incident he was trying to avoid on the road but having read through the whole thread, this does not appear to be the case?
I think the people that have slated the OP's parenting skills are totally out of line as well, she is defending her child!! Its totally natural!
If he did say something cheeky or was behaving like a brat, it should not matter-THIS MAN ASSAULTED A CHILD.
 
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