I Am Not Your Mother - A Volunteer's Moany Show Report

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I've just spent the afternoon volunteering at an event where I was stewarding for the dressage. This is the first time where I've come away feeling that my time could have been much better spent, doing something that wasn't the equivalent of herding cats, preferably with my family who I see little enough of as it is.

Far too many competitors forget that their sport depends heavily on volunteers such as myself and that a little appreciation of how much we put into the sport so that they can have a day out would go a long way - and would probably mean that I and others volunteer our precious time for them in the future.

A dressage steward is not your mother. We will tell you if the class is running to time, where your arena is, whether the judge will use their car horn or bell, the number of the person who is in before you, show you the clock that we are working from - thereafter, it is not our responsibility to get you down the centre line. Riders, please :

* Announce yourself (as the sign says) when you come into the working in. Then I can help you with the above - and I also know
you've actually arrived at the event and will be participating.
* Don't tell me that you don't know what section you are in and expect me to look through 3 sheets of 20-30 competitors to find you, you should have checked that out when you got your times, again last night, and then again this morning before setting off. I am not your mother.
* DO NOT circle me on your horse as I am explaining everything in the paragraph above to you. I am not your mother, treat me better than that.
* Make sure you know what your number is when the steward is calling for you!
* Keep an eye on the time - your time is not an advisory, that is when you should be entering at A, not an approximation giving you just enough time for an extra canter if the class is running to time.
* On the subject of time - when your time is drawing close is not the time to go off and work in at the bottom of a 2 acre field - especially if you don't know your number and are therefore oblivious to the fact that the judge is waiting for you and the steward has been shouting and waving at you for the past 2 minutes! We are not your mother.
* And re the above - no, the judge DOESN'T peep their horn when they want you to work your way down from the top
of the said field. The judge is not your mother.
* When a steward has three or more rings, upwards of twenty people working in, three people wanting to announce themselves to you, please ask your friend to stop asking them how many more to go before you more than once - especially if both you and your friend have already been given all the information in the paragraph above - keep an eye on the person before you I told you about and the arena.
* If you are a friend, parent or groom - please do not interrupt the steward who is already helping a competitor. First come firsr served, I will not break off my conversation with that person unless you, your rider or horse have a limb hanging off.
* If you ask, we are only to happy to take your whip off you and lean it against our chair as you go in. Please don't announce you are throwing your whip down as you trot past me and expect me to pick it up and place it against my chair - I am not your mother.
* No matter how your test went, a thank you as you leave the arena makes us feel appreciated.

As ever when I volunteer, I have met some lovely helpful competitors, parents and helpers today, and yet it's just the handful that have made me come away today questioning whether this was a way I wanted to spend my spare time in future. The odds are I will because I love the sport, but I will be very careful to choose the days (and therefore classes) that I will volunteer my time for after I've had a check on the BE site what classes will run on which days. I've not enjoyed spending my free time metaphorically wiping noses for people who have all been old enough to wipe their own - most of my frustrations (apart from the young man who did the volt around me) were down to the adults and not the U18s.

Please be nice to us - we're supposed to enjoy the day too, because apparently that's why we do it :).

Moan over, off to fill a jug with ice and Pimms - I might be gone for some time :D
 
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You have my sympathy - I hope I have never done ANY of the above (wracking my brains in misplaced guilt!) but it is horrid when people are like that :( I used to fence judge quite regularly and was amazed at the attitude of riders, as you say some of them don't seem to realise that their sport relies on their volunteers

Enjoy your Pimms :)
 
Not dressage but showing, along similar lines, It isn't actually my responsibility to point out that your horse is still wearing boots, so when I do please thank me, rather than scowl and flounce off to tell your mother loudly that the steward has "told" you to take the horses boots off! I will of course tell you how many entries there are in the next class, when I have a minute, but do you really need to know how many there are in the next five classes? Also there is absolutely nothing I can do about you wishing to enter two classes that run at the same time. As for competitors knowing their number, never happens, we are even supposed to know when they have the wrong number on!
A few people saying thank you, or even just smiling, can make a big difference to the day.
People will only realise the value of volunteers when the shows and comps stop running because we all decide to give up!
 
I have asked about how many are in the next 5 classes at one show (showing), because I suspected (and was correct) that there were none in a couple and only 2/3 in the rest and would go straight through :D.

Well done OP!!
 
I steward at showing shows a few times a year. I compete at enough so I like to give something back. Most show secretaries know to put me in rings that don't tend to have kids in as I don't like them. I usually get the ride judges to leg up so I get to chat to plenty of people in the line up. I have had the odd dodgy competitor but on the whole I find if I generally beam a smile at them and keep being happy and cheery it soon wears off on them and I get a smile and a thanks back! If I have nervy or unsure competitors I will always talk them through what they need to do if I have time. I also have a hell of a shout on me so no one ever misses their class no matter where they are on the show field - I am always heard lol!
 
Just a point - most riders may keep walking in a circle because their horse won't stand still - better to walk than horse swing into steward....
Beside that I would take most of that as part of being the job of the steward, e.g confirming section etc as riders dont have a copy of the times to hand but common courtesy from rider to steward and vice versa is only sensible!
 
I have asked about how many are in the next 5 classes at one show (showing), because I suspected (and was correct) that there were none in a couple and only 2/3 in the rest and would go straight through :D.

Well done OP!!

Very often the steward doesn't get the sheet for the next class until after the first class has finished and certainly doesn't get the entry sheet for all the classes in that ring during the day. People will want to enter up to the last minute and it gets far too complicated if additions are having to be made to a sheet which has already been sent to the ring. If you really want to know about classes later in the day, the best person to ask is the entry secretary, not the poor steward who is actually there to assist the judge, not the competitors (although most will do their best to help competitors too).
 
Well yes, I asked the entries secretary obviously! I didn't say I asked the steward and yorksg did not say that she was a steward when asked that- as she had the info for the next class I suspected not as a steward will not usually know this and will be busy in the ring. I've run enough shows to know how it works.

I'd rather ask and be ready on time than hold up a class unnecessarily because I started my hack to the showground too late.
 
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Well yes, I asked the entries secretary obviously! I didn't say I asked the steward and yorksg did not say that she was a steward when asked that- as she had the info for the next class I suspected not as a steward will not usually know this and will be busy in the ring. I've run enough shows to know how it works.

I'd rather ask and be ready on time than hold up a class unnecessarily because I started my hack to the showground too late.

OP was describing her day as a steward and so far as I could tell, others also posted about their experiences *as stewards*, except for those who posted from a competitors pov.
 
I'm popular with RC/local venue as a steward, because I can run mutiple rings in parallel with "German Efficiency"! :D :p My terrible memory for putting faces and names together is actually quite helpful, as it means that I can generally reply honestly when asked, "Do you know who I am?"---"No, actually, haven't a clue." It also helps to have a very, very loud voice. Biggest cause of delay is generally not the riders (whom I rule with an iron fist), but dressage judges taking forever to write up the collective comments! :D
 
I know the feeling! For me though, the lovely competitors make it worth it. Also knowing that I am giving back to the sport in the way I hope others will so that I can compete too.
 
I steward at showing shows a few times a year. I compete at enough so I like to give something back. Most show secretaries know to put me in rings that don't tend to have kids in as I don't like them. I usually get the ride judges to leg up so I get to chat to plenty of people in the line up. I have had the odd dodgy competitor but on the whole I find if I generally beam a smile at them and keep being happy and cheery it soon wears off on them and I get a smile and a thanks back! If I have nervy or unsure competitors I will always talk them through what they need to do if I have time. I also have a hell of a shout on me so no one ever misses their class no matter where they are on the show field - I am always heard lol!

Couldn’t agree more about smiles EKW, I’m sure many of us have been that nervy first timer and appreciated a kind comment or smile which has helped us on our way. I thought I had a helluva shout on me (well that’s what my children have always said), but even I struggled to reach the outer reaches of the working in today – I may tug on your sleeve for voice projection coaching, I’m clearly losing my touch :D

Well done OP!!

Aww thanks Ester, I do love it but I did find it particularly trying today and it left me feeling quite down, now I’m well into the Pimms I’m feeling more disposed to putting it down the warm weather and having to wear jackets.

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You have my sympathy - I hope I have never done ANY of the above (wracking my brains in misplaced guilt!) but it is horrid when people are like that :( I used to fence judge quite regularly and was amazed at the attitude of riders, as you say some of them don't seem to realise that their sport relies on their volunteers

Enjoy your Pimms :)

I’m sure you haven’t Lev and like with you, I do think a stint ‘on the other side’ does tend to make one more appreciative. The Pimms has done the trick very nicely thank you - that and the posh chocolates DD’s boyfriend brought tonight ☺.

A few people saying thank you, or even just smiling, can make a big difference to the day.
People will only realise the value of volunteers when the shows and comps stop running because we all decide to give up!

Thank and You are two very small words separately, but put them together and they make such a difference don’t they? I totally agree though, upset enough volunteers and it will be the grass roots levels that will suffer ☹
 
Just a point - most riders may keep walking in a circle because their horse won't stand still - better to walk than horse swing into steward....
Beside that I would take most of that as part of being the job of the steward, e.g confirming section etc as riders dont have a copy of the times to hand but common courtesy from rider to steward and vice versa is only sensible!

There was only one rider that circled me out of three classes, the horse was very calm and was very purposely being ridden around me. I personally found it very rude and there wasn't an ounce of exuberance being exhibited by the horse. :(.

Maybe I'm odd in that I always used to write my times for each phase and what section I was in on a scrap of paper and put it in my jacket pocket - and then take it out and look at it every two minutes to double and triple check that I was where I should be and when :D. This was well before the days of phone apps so I was even known the check the running list for times and section on arrival in the secretary's tent, then before and after a trip to the loo and once again after a sausage sarnie when I'd got the stressage out of the way :D. Maybe I'm just getting old and cantankerous :)
 
I know the feeling! For me though, the lovely competitors make it worth it. Also knowing that I am giving back to the sport in the way I hope others will so that I can compete too.

I'm feeling much more positive now for being able to have a moan (also a huge thanks must go to the Pimms too :D). I generally come home on a real high simply because of the lovely people involved in the sport, whether riding, gofering or on duty. I'll put it down to wearing woollen jackets in 26 degrees and will pray for a hard frost and unseasonable cold next month :D.

I'm popular with RC/local venue as a steward, because I can run mutiple rings in parallel with "German Efficiency"! :D :p My terrible memory for putting faces and names together is actually quite helpful, as it means that I can generally reply honestly when asked, "Do you know who I am?"---"No, actually, haven't a clue." It also helps to have a very, very loud voice. Biggest cause of delay is generally not the riders (whom I rule with an iron fist), but dressage judges taking forever to write up the collective comments! :D

:D, I need to try that one SP. Yes, I learned first hand the knock on effect that slow writing up can have on a class today, it's quite remarkable how those minutes add up isn't it.
 
Yes to all of this! Plus, do not tell me at the last minute that you haven't memorised your test and you need to have someone call it for you. I will try my hardest, but often can't find someone at that short notice...

Crowding the entrance lane is also something that seems to happen more often, and I don't like having to be near multiple fidgety horse bums with stressed riders on top.

The not announcing is the biggest pain - having to walk around a 2-acre warm-up field plus all the trailers in the car park to find someone or multiple someones is not fun. Sadly I don't have the biggest voice in the world. I don't remember faces, but I do remember horses, so once announced to me, the riders are generally fine.

Having said that, I usually have a great time and most of the riders and their horses are lovely. We get a great variety of horses - from big floaty warmbloods to very hairy small coloured cobs with manes down to their knees. I really enjoy being able to see people go through their tests (or some of it) and most people DO remember to say thank you.
 
OP was describing her day as a steward and so far as I could tell, others also posted about their experiences *as stewards*, except for those who posted from a competitors pov.

Whereas having read and responding to YorkG's comments I thought we had hit the 'wider show volunteer' section- as we had also Moved swiftly to showing from dressage as threads are tended to. And it just made me think well I did that last week and it wasn't to be annoying it was with good reason :p (which I explained to the secretary so I don't think she minded).



What is most fun is when you start getting in judge complaints.... or when your judge for a whole afternoon of classes hasn't turned up and then has 'the wrong weekend'. That was a great day!
 
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Some folks expect their mothers to do the oddest things ��

I always make an effort to be appreciative, polite and thank the organisers in person or after the event. But sometimes I'm pre occupied with nerves etc so wouldn't always be paying attention. Don't think I've ever been guilty of the things op mentions but I'm not surprised as people don't always realise - they are wrapped up in their own little world most of time with limited self awareness!
 
I think part of it is nerves, and sometimes it's just plain ignorance of how to behave. When I've stewarded at pure dressage comps, hardly any of the riders come up to me when they enter the warmup to announce they're there, and I think it's because they genuinely don't know that this is the thing to do (as they've never stewarded themselves). Usually they're polite but completely oblivious to everyone around them, I've had to ask groups of people standing around chatting inside the arena to move aside so the riders warming up can use the whole school!

I'm not sure that I ever used to announce myself to the steward before I did some stewarding myself!
 
I've done a fair amount of stewarding for various disciplines over the years, mostly it's all been fine.

Scoring on my lonesome for a dressage comp with two arenas running in the back of a lorry with the ramp down, was easily the worst experience. Everyone was waiting at the bottom of the ramp, top tip, if a scorer is quite clearly in their own, constantly asking how long they're going to be, really does not help speed things up!

Now I'm able to get out and compete myself I try and always say thanks to the stewards, and leave a message in the relevant fb page thanking everyone at the end of the comp in case I missed anyone along the way.
 
Some folks expect their mothers to do the oddest things ��

Haha! Yep, mine won't even come to the show so no expectations of the mother department here!

Happy to report only polite courteous competitors at Hartpury Area festival today :p
 
Mines just told me she's grooming for someone else the day I need her! (another friend also pointed out how many times she has met her at events this summer too)

sarahann all scorers should have a quiet locked room.

My main occasion of feeling totally unappreciated was after running 12 hours of indoor showjumping in winter as secretary (and having done times/running orders for 2 days beforehand) we asked if any of the competitors/their helpers could help put some of the jumps away (all they had to do was put them on the trailer that was driven round) so that we had enough space to do the prize giving (teams, lots of horses to fit in)- the ranting that went on at that request was just awful.
 
sarahann all scorers should have a quiet locked room.

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Yep, locked from the inside, it would also help stop the "can I just have a quick peek at my sheet please?" No, no you cannot, you've just interrupted my train of thought, I'm trying to concentrate on what I'm doing, you asking that has now distracted me and I have to start over again, meaning everyone has to wait even longer, also, it's against the rules, please kindly bog off!!
 
I've volunteered a few times at shows. Not had too many problems, I tell the riders when they have 5 mins left so they don't suddenly become shocked it's their turn.

Only had one mother demand I move her child from going first to somewhere else. Refused to do so and said she will have to do it at other shows as well so best get used to it. Mother wasn't happy and stood beside me with her arms folded, had to stop myself from smiling too much.

As a rider, I thank the volunteers, even the grumpy ones. Saw a few grumpy ones at a show a year ago, but when I thanked them they seemed to cheer up a little so that was nice. Thanked the judges too and apologised for my lack of knowledge.
 
Mines just told me she's grooming for someone else the day I need her! (another friend also pointed out how many times she has met her at events this summer too)

sarahann all scorers should have a quiet locked room.

My main occasion of feeling totally unappreciated was after running 12 hours of indoor showjumping in winter as secretary (and having done times/running orders for 2 days beforehand) we asked if any of the competitors/their helpers could help put some of the jumps away (all they had to do was put them on the trailer that was driven round) so that we had enough space to do the prize giving (teams, lots of horses to fit in)- the ranting that went on at that request was just awful.

I am afraid that I stopped helping to set up/put away RC SJ classes after the year when at every show, the entire committee bar 3, melted away as soon as the someone mentioned taking the jumps down. I am not a jumper and certainly wasn't going to put my back out every month, so that those who had been jumping over the blessed things could just walk off!
 
A sensible stance I think PaS.
This was winter areas hence the long day. Funnily enough we did all want to get home at that point and this was the quickest way to try and do it. The area rep had deemed it unsafe (as would I have) to do a prize giving for 24 horses in an indoor full of jumps so some had to be cleared (and the venue had an excellent tractor and trailer set up so it wasn't like it needed to be carried everywhere.

I turned up to a dressage competition (I was competing for a change) to find that the 2 people who said they would be there early to set the arena up hadn't arrived, Frank was being a tit on the box so I had to get him out and drag him round the arena with me trying to get the boards straight.. I think I resigned after that ;).

Ooh there was the day when for big summer show the toilets never turned up....

I have had some very enjoyable days too though! But definitely preferred the ones where I was paid and got cake! Or I just did writing, no one can get you then :D
 
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