I AM REALLY CROSS at the opinions of people on this board....

I haven't read all the posts CL but this reply comes from the heart.

I too am in a position where I love my job, wouldn't be satisfied doing anything else but have to accept other people doing my horse. Sometimes it's not as I would do them myself but I couldn't afford to have them, compete or anything else without my job.

I work weird hours and travel a fair distance to work to boot, the last few days in fact have been hell.

I would dearly love to be able to keep them at home and do a 'late check' in my slippers but it ain't gonna happen any time before I retire, possibly never. I regularly feel too damn tired to ride so get by lungeing them or a quick hack to keep them ticking over between rest days and neither seem to suffer for it. They don't even have that much of a routine, sometimes they get worked in the morning, sometimes the afternoon, it doesn't seem to bother them.

The point is you know you do your best for your horses, they are looked after and you enjoy them, tell everyone else to mind their own business and bugger off!
 
I don't think anyone should be having a 'pop' at anyone anyway! We all do what we have to do in order to enjoy our horses - surely there is no right or wrong way to have them? as long as we do.

Unfortunately, some people do have to work long hours, some choose to do their horse at 5am some choose to pay someone else to do it - neither is wrong so why is everyone getting upset?

I am being very philosophical don't you think?;-) lol
 
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FF if we all got irritated by things that other people say on here, then we would have a forum FULL of ranting posts like this. I honestly don't know why you get yourself so worked up about other people's opinions?

You see, if I was a groom who was having to work Christmas Day only because I was paid a lousy wage all year round and might have the chance to earn an extra 30 quid on Christmas Day for looking after some horses, and I read some of the patronising posts which have been posted on here over the past couple of days then I might be a bit irritated that these people who are inferring that they are the only ones who have families and might want to spend this day with them.....but of course everyone knows that grooms don't have a life and they enjoy shovelling sh1t for peanuts.
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SEE!! It could be worse couldn't it...you could be a groom!
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And I thank my lucky stars that I have never been a groom!
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[/ QUOTE ] I haven't seen one person inferring such a thing! I could have missed it of course, but I suspect this is another uncalled for sweeping statement!
 
Personally, I think as long as the horse is healthy and happy then it doesn't matter a jot whether they are on full, part of DIY livery. If you can afford Full Livery, then why not?

I have two spare stables. Given a choice I would far rather fill them with full liveries than DIY. Not a question of earning more per stable, it's a question of me being able to keep the yard dynamics happier. All horses would be seen to at the same time, which would lessen the behavioural issues you can get when horses are fed separately or left in when the others go out etc etc.
 
Wow I'm pretty new o the forum and never new whqat a contoversial topic livery was! I have done both and they both great. I came from a non horsey family and would never have had a horse without full livery as a teen. Otherwise I would not have had anyone to teach me how to care for a horse. If I could find a yard with people I trusted as much my old yard when I get a new horse next year I would go for full livery again as I amworking odd hours andit would be difficult to provide a routine.
 
I used to have mine on full livery, and then changed to DIY as it suited me better. The only thing that gets me is people that never see their horses and have no arrangement for someone to do it for them.

TBH i dont care if someone has a huge horse lorry or a single horsebox, if they own a £10k horse or a wee shetland. At the end of the day we share the same love - HORSES!!!!
 
Bored, bored, bored, bored, bored, bored of this topic.

Full, DIY or Assisted Livery ..........as long as your horse is cared for one way or another what else matters ???????

It's your horse, keep it however you see fit.

Mx
(part of the "I just turn up, groom and ride whenever I feel can find the time and feel like it" clique.
 
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Uh oh, looks like you've had a tongue lashing from a few members!! It's really sad when someone posts a fairly innocent post, thinking that people may sympathise or empathise with you, but it turns into a slanging match and an abusive post
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Here's my opinion;

We do what we can to do the best for our horses, not all of us are lucky enough to do our own horses 24/7, not all of us are lucky enough to have family/friends look after our horses for us when we are not around either , so we make provisions and to me, that's what you have done. I really don't think you should worry about certain members comments, you need to ignore the bitchy snipey comments and choose which ones you think are aimed at you with rational thought.

I'm sorry you keep getting laid into. xx

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Wizoz you seem like a really nice person. It would be good if everyone on here could accept that we are ALL responsible, caring owners who are doing the best we can for our horses.

There is no need for anyone to be smug or judgemental about how much time people spend with their horses.

Could we just please all accept that everyone on here is doing their best for their horse, in their own way - and stop moralizing and preaching about it?
 
Hey, ChocolateLog, don't worry about what other people think you should do! I don't see mine everyday, but they are the most loved cared for animals and they blumming well know it! I find all this 'I do this and it's right' business quite amusing, everyone does things differently and everyone does those things for different reasons!
 
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There is no need for anyone to be smug or judgemental about how much time people spend with their horses.

Could we just please all accept that everyone on here is doing their best for their horse, in their own way - and stop moralizing and preaching about it?

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No, smug and judgemental works better for me.
And I do love moralizing...or would if I had any....
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No, smug and judgemental works better for me.
And I do love moralizing...or would if I had any....

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...and lots of bragging too, don't forget.
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I haven't bothered to read most of the replies here because it is just rehashing old ground.

Not every post is directed at YOU.

Nobody really cares how you choose to look after your horse - most just enjoy the opportunity to sound off and if what they say is extreme or critical then in many cases it says more about them than it does about you.

Get over yourself and worry about you, not everybody else.
 
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There is no need for anyone to be smug or judgemental about how much time people spend with their horses.

Could we just please all accept that everyone on here is doing their best for their horse, in their own way - and stop moralizing and preaching about it?

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No, smug and judgemental works better for me.
And I do love moralizing...or would if I had any....
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Ah, but that's the beauty of moralizing - you don't actually need to have any morals, you just preach and pontificate....
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As individuals we all lead different lifes with different horses and different families and incomes etc, etc.
In an ideal world everyone chooses the livery option that suits their needs and lifestyle.
 
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And would like suggestions as to what you would do in my situation - becasue like countless others I am in it and would like to know how you would handle it...or what you think I or others should do.....

My career is important to me. The main reason I work is to afford my horse...who is a huge part of my life.

I HAVE to work in order to AFFORD MY HORSE.

Unfortunately I have to work long hours. I was in the office at 7.30 this morning and I will be here until past that tonight. At the moment, I am working an hour and a half on the M25 away from home.

I therefore, like countless others, pay for my horse to be on livery in the week. I am in the unusual position in the way that I keep him on a pure DIY yard and pay someone to do him - but this means I have to trust the girl that does him to do him. I have NO CHOICE in the matter. I cannot turn up and start doing stuff and checking on him...

I had a nightmare experience on part livery, and cannot afford for him to be on full livery with exercise.

I miss my horse terribly and hate not being able to ride in the week (its better in the summer)

So what do those who suggest that I have a resposibility to make sure my horse is looked at daily by me suggest I do? Go to a riding school?

I had the horse before the job...do you suggest I leave my job? Or perhaps sell the horse?

And am I a bad owner because I pay to keep him 'ticking over' in the week with lunging and a hack on a Thursday, then compete and have lessons at the weekend
And am I a snob because I have a lorry?

I would LOVE to work a normal houred job, as I am sure others in my situation would. But it is not possible for me at the moment, and I probably would not be satisfied.

I think your opinions are completely narrow minded and fairly ignorant.
I also think you should evaluate that people are not always able to have the best of both worlds.

Wake up - NOT EVERYONE is in the same situation as YOU.

And even if I was I would still pay for someone to do his bed - becasue I hate mucking out. Does that mean I am lazy or just want to eliminate the part of my hobby I hate the most?

Gah! So so ignorant!
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Couldn't have put it better myself - my situation is very similar to yours although at the moment my hours aren't as long as they have been in the past.
I do however, love mucking out, but then I only have to do it twice a week, so don't do it enough to start hating it!
The way I see it, my career is important to me, and it's not necessarily one that fits in with having a horse - but he doesn't care if I'm the one shovelling his sh*t or not, he just wants hay, dinner, field and a bed to mess up (not always in that order).
I still see him all the time, but when I do see him, I have more time to spend with him rather than clearing up after him.

It's each to their own - if anyone would like to tell me to my face that I'm a bad horse owner for having full livery, I'd tell them where to shove it........it's each to their own and I'm not about to start having a go at someone for being DIY (which isn't always ideal for the horse either!).
 
I still think that any kind, decent, normal, non-deviant person would keep their horses on grass DIY....just like me, obviously.
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PS Who cares - as long as SOMEONE feeds and cares for the horse?!
 
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My point is that some people are very quick to critisise but dont actually give an alternative option?

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That's because they don't have anything constructive to say - they just enjoy criticizing and preaching, which is a hell of a lot easier than actually being helpful!

But sweetie you don't need advice cos you are not doing anything wrong - your horse is well and happy and well cared-for, you see him when you can and you enjoy the time you have with him.

Of course you would like to see your horse more often, but we all have to make compromises - as long as the horse is well and happy, you should not worry or feel bad.
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Chocolate-log may i say one thing - by what you have written you obviously care about and are passionate for your horse. to me you are therefore miles apart from a person who "dumps" there horse on any kind of livery be it part full etc and doesnt see it for ages and DOES NOT CARE.
sorry but i will always feel very angry towards people who dump horses into other peoples care and don't go to see them bcos they are too lazy - they don't deserve horses IMO. you are not seeing your horse for a while bcos of your work not because you dont care or cant be bothered - that is a very different circumstance indeed.
 
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