I have reported this ad......

[gunnergundog]

If anyone else feels the same and is so inclined to add weight it would be appreciated. The pup is currently 4 weeks old. They are saying it will be with them from when it is 8 weeks old and they are selling for £3k. Apart from the reselling aspect, the claims on the training front are crazy. I am trying to find out who the litter belongs to but nothing is listed on the Kennel Club site or the breed site. Have put the word out and will phone KC tomorrow although I know they won't be interested.
https://www.pets4homes.co.uk/classifieds/2764108-trained-gwp-puppy-swindon.html
I am please to offer a KC registered male GWP puppy for sale. He will be arriving to me on the 4th August. he is black with a white bib and feet. His parents are both workings dogs, both with shooting and falcons so he does have the potential to go to either a working or a pet home.
He will be trained all the basics at a minimum, this includes: house trained, lead walking, sit, stay, lie down, recall. Be well socialised with dogs, people, traffic, livestock, groomers, loud noises etc.
The dogs training can be modified to the owners needs.
Please note that all homes will the thoroughly vetted. This is a high energy breed so will need an active home. The longer I have the pup and the more training I do with it, the more the price will increase

This is one of my breeds and close to my heart.

 

[Nicnac]

How bizarre. What category did you report the ad under?

Who on earth would be selling her a puppy to sell on? I know people who train dogs for others but not one like this. It's very similar to pros selling horses who state the price will go up once horse has been out competing etc. but never seen it with dogs.

 

[bonny]

I read it that they are getting the pup when it’s 8 weeks old and then training it, there is nothing to say how long that would take. Presumably the price will go up as he gets older and better trained ? I think it’s odd to be selling the puppy now but I guess the advertiser is just looking to make some money and hoping someone wants a young, trained dog instead of the hassles of having a puppy ?

 

[TPO]

GWP aren't really suitable just to be a pet (exception to every rule) so you'd hope of a pet owner was looking to part with 3k+ theyd at least Google and find out a tiny smidge about the breed and its brain!

The only people I've known with GWP, including my mum, have been people who use them with guns. Even at that my gamekeeper friend rehomed his to be a one dog working home as it couldnt cope being part of a pack (of other breeds) and mum rehomed hers because she physically couldn't run her enough so she went to a friend who was shooting and she was his full focus.

Mum trained her to gun and very successfully competed in trials and dad took her beating; she was so smart and just never got tired. I'd hate to imagine her in a pet home!

As its (hopefully) people involved with field sports of some description I cant imagine many of them lining up to pay 3k because someone else has puppy trained it. This trainer might find she has him a lot longer than she planned and that she has to drop the price considerably.

Having said all that I don't understand under what grounds it is being reported? It seems a bit of a crazy money making scheme but there doesn't appear to be any welfare issues if the dog is over 8wks.

 

[gunnergundog]

Having said all that I don't understand under what grounds it is being reported? It seems a bit of a crazy money making scheme but there doesn't appear to be any welfare issues if the dog is over 8wks.

A bit iffy I agree, but Lucy's law. Also, the claims for the training at 8 weeks. Unrealistic. Think we have tracked down the breeder....thank you Huw Kirby and Sharon Pinkerton.

 

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I’m not sure what there is to report to be honest, I must be missing something?

It looks to me like she has bought the pup in and will commence training at 8 weeks old when she gets it (could be an issue, depends how strongly she approaches the training I suppose?) with the intention of selling it as a fully trained dog of the kind that have already been mentioned on here? For lazy people/inexperienced owners who don’t want the hassle of training a dog themselves but want a ready trained one..... ?

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

If anyone else feels the same and is so inclined to add weight it would be appreciated. The pup is currently 4 weeks old. They are saying it will be with them from when it is 8 weeks old and they are selling for £3k. Apart from the reselling aspect, the claims on the training front are crazy. I am trying to find out who the litter belongs to but nothing is listed on the Kennel Club site or the breed site. Have put the word out and will phone KC tomorrow although I know they won't be interested.
https://www.pets4homes.co.uk/classifieds/2764108-trained-gwp-puppy-swindon.html
I am please to offer a KC registered male GWP puppy for sale. He will be arriving to me on the 4th August. he is black with a white bib and feet. His parents are both workings dogs, both with shooting and falcons so he does have the potential to go to either a working or a pet home.
He will be trained all the basics at a minimum, this includes: house trained, lead walking, sit, stay, lie down, recall. Be well socialised with dogs, people, traffic, livestock, groomers, loud noises etc.
The dogs training can be modified to the owners needs.
Please note that all homes will the thoroughly vetted. This is a high energy breed so will need an active home. The longer I have the pup and the more training I do with it, the more the price will increase

This is one of my breeds and close to my heart.

Could this pup be the 'pick of litter' and that is why it will arrive with the seller at 8 weeks?

 

[gunnergundog]

Could this pup be the 'pick of litter' and that is why it will arrive with the seller at 8 weeks?

I have no probs with a pup being the pick of the litter in return for a stud fee. Ideally though it wouldn't be sold on via the stud dog owner but via the bitch owner and the cash transferred to the dog owner, thereby minimising stress to the pup.
What I do object to are the training claims and inflated prices being made by the soon to be owner of an 8 week old pup. You may not fall for it, but some mug will part with 3K thinking they have fully livestock proofed gundog with 100% recall. Trust me, it happens and the only one that suffers usually is the dog who ends up with a bit of lead between the ears.

 

[gunnergundog]

Who on earth would be selling her a puppy to sell on? .

Unfortunately, plenty of people who are not au fait with the internet world are selling pups still at pre-Covid prices IN GOOD FAITH only for them to be sold on at inflated figures a week or so later on some of the dodgy internet sites.

There seem to be a lot of con merchants around at the moment.

 

[DressageCob]

The advert has gone so I assume your complaints worked. It does sound like an unrealistic advert, but it depends on when they were going to sell it. If someone reserved it now and expected to receive it fully trained in a year's time, that's not unrealistic. If the training is to be done within a month or so, that's less likely.

 

[CorvusCorax]

That ballpark figure is what is being charged for young/green/part-trained dogs in my circles/a board-and-train pup up to a certain age. I wouldn't pay it, but I don't see a massive problem if someone else wants to?
Police dogs often get trained up and licenced in a matter of months, it's not outside the realms of possibility.

 

[TPO]

The GWP of mums was the worst pup she's ever had in her lifetime and that's a lots of dogs! I was back staying with them at that point waiting on my new house so its 11yrs ago and still haunts me.

She just didnt sleep a wink all at night and whined/howled constantly. Every trick in the book was tried but nothing other than human contact would settle her.

It took a solid month before anyone got any sleep. At one point mum put her in my bed with me just so everyone could get some sleep. If you knew my mum you'd understand how drastic that was!

So yeah I would have happily paid for someone else to deal with weaning and sleeping through the night phase!

The monster herself ?