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Arranged a visit from a 'Horse whisperer' type person!
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Not quite sure what to expect TBH.

Have decided to get 'Professional' help with Booty as I dont want to risk making an even bigger mess of his leading.
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I have to admit, I have been abit naughty and joined another forum!
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Its an Irish one (Not sure if I can mention the name?) but thought Id have a better chance of finding someone local.

Was Recommended a girl call Laura Domenica http://www.connectedhorsemanship.com/ who trainned with Pat and linda Parelli as well as Chriss Irwin. Phoned her yeaterday and she sounds lovely! Quite expensive but hopefully worth it
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- £250 per day plus hotel/B&B costs. Depending on how well Booty decides to co-operate-she could be here for days!
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Anyone ever used similar services/techniques? Or do you think its all a waste of time?

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Is this for your youngster who is a bit bolshy leading & has been known to rear?

IMO I would save yourself the money & just find someone (a good friend, or yard owner?) who can handle the horse firmly.

In fact, I'll do it for £100 and my airfare!
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My daughter used Richard Maxwell with her horse's loading
issues. He made all the difference she turned into a calm horse in a couple of weeks. I would use one again.
 
£250 a day :O:O:O How long is she planning on working with him :S
I thought you normally with this kind of thing had a session or two not a whole day??
 
You can get a Kellymarks trained RA for around £40 per hour plus travel. They usually spend 2 hours on their first session,teach you how to handle the horse in a way that works and only come back if needed.Surely that would be a cheaper and just as good way to get your horse sorted.
 
Just read some previous posts to remind me.

Why on earth don't you just send him to someone who is used to youngsters for a month to start his education???

All that's going to happen is that this person (why do you want a horse whisperer?) is going to take your money - sort the problem short term - and leave you non the wiser or any more educated....

Seems a terrible waste of money when it could be put to much better use.
 
Oh apologies, it would have made sense to include that part.

He is a colt who I am having trouble leading, has a tendancy to rear-has went right over before and spent months in box rest, now has a fear of vets after a visit from a non-horsey one. Not a great start to his little life, especially as I had planned to show him for a while before hes broken etc. I have to take partial blame for the whole thing so I shouldnt really complain lol
 
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Oh apologies, it would have made sense to include that part.

He is a colt who I am having trouble leading, has a tendancy to rear-has went right over before and spent months in box rest, now has a fear of vets after a visit from a non-horsey one. Not a great start to his little life, especially as I had planned to show him for a while before hes broken etc. I have to take partial blame for the whole thing so I shouldnt really complain lol

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Missy my now near 3 year old believe it or not reared as a yearling .

She did it one day going into the arena .

I on the other hand was having none of it . It was a friend of mine that was leading her at the time , I was walking behind her , Before doing what I did I prewarned my friend .... I had a long dressage whip in my hand and gave her a sharpe sting on the back side , she then immediately jumped forward .

She never reared again .

Seems to be though in your case , You may have let it happen a few more times . He needs a good sharpe shock that makes him think differently when hes in a situation of him rearing .

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Dually headcollar all day long!!
Some don't like them, some do, but in the right hands they are a god send!!
A friend of mine's friend, had a mare who would not load (TBH, think the owner was afraid of her) but anyway, my friend put the dually on her, and walked her to the ramp, and then backed her up, walked towards backed her up, til eventually, the mare go so annoyed with being pushed back, she walked straight up the trailer.
A youngster I use to help out with was very bolshy, so put a dually on her, and it worked a treat!
 
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Dually headcollar all day long!!

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I would say that anything inclined to go up - will do so twice as quickly with one of these on...........
 
I have used a guy who trained with Monte Roberts because my horse wouldn’t stand still when mounting (he is 18hh so it is hard enough) and he also wont let anything near his ears I had him fully checked out first so vet and phsio had given him the all clear and then got him out it really worked he was fab and spent loads of time with him. He gave me some good bits of advice and he is so better.
 
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LMAO!

DEAL mayflower!...book your flights!
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Seriously though, could you not just send him to a stud for a bit for basic handling, and then go and watch what they do, and learn it for yourself?

I really think a 'horse whisperer' is a total waste of your money here and woudl hate to see you do this & for it to not work. This horse does not have any issues other than that he has learned that he can walk all over you.
 
As you know, Bootys_New_Mum, I have tried to help you on your other posts.
The truth of the matter is, that you are not experienced in handling a youngster, and you have another few years of this ahead til he is all grown up.
Is there any way of putting him on full livery with someone experienced in youngsters, who will put him firmly in his place? Or would you be able to sell him on?
The horsewhisperer rings a few warning bells - you shouldn't be working with a youngster for a whole day at a time, for a start. Secondly, £250 is a rip off. Thirdly, it's a temporary fix to a permanent problem.
Sorry, I know it isn't what you want to hear - you want there to be some trick or technique to get him to behave. There is, it's called understanding horse psychology, and training him with positive (and sometimes negative reinforcement). No horse whisperer is going to teach you those skills in a day.
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As you know, Bootys_New_Mum, I have tried to help you on your other posts.
The truth of the matter is, that you are not experienced in handling a youngster, and you have another few years of this ahead til he is all grown up.
Is there any way of putting him on full livery with someone experienced in youngsters, who will put him firmly in his place? Or would you be able to sell him on?
The horsewhisperer rings a few warning bells - you shouldn't be working with a youngster for a whole day at a time, for a start. Secondly, £250 is a rip off. Thirdly, it's a temporary fix to a permanent problem.
Sorry, I know it isn't what you want to hear - you want there to be some trick or technique to get him to behave. There is, it's called understanding horse psychology, and training him with positive (and sometimes negative reinforcement). No horse whisperer is going to teach you those skills in a day.
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What IT said ^ ^

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My daughter used Richard Maxwell with her horse's loading
issues. He made all the difference she turned into a calm horse in a couple of weeks. I would use one again.

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Ditto this, i know someone who used Richard Maxwell with fantastic results. I dont know if this would help but i read his books when i was having real problems with my last horse and they made the world of difference. He has a new book out atm aimed at educating the young horse. You never know, £20 on a book might save you £1000s!!
 
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As you know, Bootys_New_Mum, I have tried to help you on your other posts.
The truth of the matter is, that you are not experienced in handling a youngster, and you have another few years of this ahead til he is all grown up.
Is there any way of putting him on full livery with someone experienced in youngsters, who will put him firmly in his place? Or would you be able to sell him on?
The horsewhisperer rings a few warning bells - you shouldn't be working with a youngster for a whole day at a time, for a start. Secondly, £250 is a rip off. Thirdly, it's a temporary fix to a permanent problem.
Sorry, I know it isn't what you want to hear - you want there to be some trick or technique to get him to behave. There is, it's called understanding horse psychology, and training him with positive (and sometimes negative reinforcement). No horse whisperer is going to teach you those skills in a day.
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AHH *SCREAMS* this stupid computer decided to die half way through this post, so if it appears that i am being abrupt, then it is probably not meant that way. also, spelling will probably be worse than usual
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Shilasdair...firstly, any help you have offered me in previous posts has been taken into consideration, believe me! Any appropriate advice that any forum member offers me is considered.

Secondly, i may not be as experianced as some of the other forum members, but i do have quite a bit of experience behind me. I have worked on/with numerous international yards, including international dressage stallions and eventing youngstock. Thankfully i have not had much dealings with 'rearers' therefore i have taken the responsible action as an owner to 'seek help' on matters which i am unsure of.

I once watch a girl in one of the top european studs, lifting a pitch fork to a slightly older horse who reared in stable!...I think alot of this foal and would not risk having him treated in such a mannor. I honestly dont know the attitudes or how things run in English (I assume) studs, but there are not that many in Ireland that I would be happy about sending him to.

I am not trying to find 'tricks or techniques to make him behave' and fair enough, the term 'horse whisperer' possibly wasnt correct-what i meant was someone who practices natural horsemanship.

I just want the best for this foal, I owe it to him to correct his behaviour for his own safety but i cannot take complete blame for it. I do believe that the vet had a large role to play in it, in fact I have been told by the man that employs him that he was very wrong in how he handled the situation. I dont think its fair to judge my experience when you do not know me or the full situation.
 
Have decided not to, after reading some of the posts on previous page and contacting richard maxwell (Who charges £250 per week including feed & livery!) it did seem to be rather expensive. Its very frustrating, cant seem to find anyone in Ireland who is what im looking for.
 
hi,

Just reading your message - must say the 'horse whisperer' thing does work - my 17 year old is much better because of it.
Are you in Ireland ? If so there are a few of us looking at putting together a group with Elaine Heney - I haven't met her but a friend of mine has seen her work and highly recommends her chec k out her website http://www.irishnaturalhorsemanship.com/
I am very interested in learning more about the 'natural' way to handle youngsters - I have a 3 yr old filly and I want to start with her the right way so I don't have issues later on. If you're interested in more info you can send me a PM and I will give you my contact details and more information on what we are planning. Also there is a clinic on with Ricky Quinn that looks very good (Wicklow, Down & Galway) - see the above website for the link. Best of luck and don't lose heart.
 
Bootys New mum - have found what might be the answer for you - check out Dave Kavannagh - this guy specializes in youngster and will take livery. Exert from irishhorsemanship web site below.

Dave is a very talented and experienced North Dublin young horse trainer, and the Irish Horsemanship young horse specialist. Every young horse is treated as an individual, and he focuses on working with the green horse using common sense horsemanship, behaviour and body language studied from his horses for many years. Every horse is brought on in his own time, and the results speak for themselves. Happy, balanced, confident young ridden horses who like people and are a pleasure to be around. He breeds horses, handles foals and youngsters, and runs a livery, young horse starting and sales yard in Loughshinny.
Email dave@ecklandssportshorses.com

Best of luck.
 
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