I really like Tim Stockdale but

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In Horse and Rider Magazine this month his article talks about how he hates women that have horses as status symbols and don't ride them, and how he feels sorry for their husband paying the bills for these horses that aren't ridden,

Well IME the days of husbands paying for their wives interests are long gone or at least I have never been on a yard where woman don't pay for our own animals.

It seems such an old fashioned attitude or am I being naive.

Does anyone have a partner that pays for all their horsey needs.
 
I wish ....LOL!!

I could cope with Tim Stckdale hating me for it
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At the moment (and for the next 2 years...) My OH is paying for all my horsey needs - but only because I'm a skint student
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. I cannot even begin to tell you how guilty I feel taking his hard earned money for what is effectively my hobby - but he wont let me put him out on loan (I'm a really grumpy cow if I dont have a regular horsey break from the computer/uni/NHS!
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) I have to say though that I try so hard to cut down on non essentials - ie shows, new rugs, expensive feeds etc (you can spot me a mile off cos I'm so scruffy LOL) and I cant wait until I've got a job and can spend my own money on my own hobby again
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It still happens. "All the gear no idea" sterotype.

Those people who perhaps work in the city then think they'll get thier parteners something to do in the week... so they toddle off to the contientent and buy some totally unsuitable posh warmblood.....



then they get in to paralli...
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(its a joke on a sterotype and meant to be funny)
 
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It still happens. "All the gear no idea" sterotype.



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Ah yes, I do know one of those.
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She even wears her spurs upside down
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LOL I've seen more people like that on the ski slopes, all the latest designer skiwear and they spend all day and I mean all day in the mountain cafe's looking good but never hitting the slopes
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My husband effectively pays for all mine.
I am classed as a company director but don't actually do anything.
He pays me a weekly wage, which is actually horse money.
 
Not the first controversial comment he's made...ironically the last one I read was condemning the 'poorer' horse owner. Seems he doesn't like the 'wealthier' either!
 
crikey, wish i could find a man who'd happily pay for my horses! i've obviously been looking in the wrong places!
i can see Tim's point, i feel sorry for the horses too... this kind of horse is probably a potential megastar (i doubt nice safe hairy cobs are bought as 'status symbols') so what a huge waste too.
it just saddens me to see people who are obviously hugely overhorsed, and who actively avoid riding their horse.
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a friend of mine treats a yardful of horses like this down south, very posh, immaculate yard (of course), and the owners hardly ever ride their horses.
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i can see Tim's point, i feel sorry for the horses too... this kind of horse is probably a potential megastar (i doubt nice safe hairy cobs are bought as 'status symbols') so what a huge waste too.
it just saddens me to see people who are obviously hugely overhorsed, and who actively avoid riding their horse.

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Totally agree, why buy something talented and with heaps of potential to take photos of it and show your friends?!
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It is a total waste
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I get horse and rider every month (have 5 years worth and dont know what to do with them all ?!?!) and i have never enjoyed tim's feature at the back really. It has changed my opinion of him reading those as a lot are moaning about people. The one about keeping horses on a budget peed me off big time. Was it carl hester who kept one in a shed or something when he was very young??? I know someone famous did. He seems a snob but at the same time trying too hard not to be.

Rant over.

This one time i do however see his point ~(as i often do to a certain degree but he seems to take it too far) in that people buy horses, stick them on full livery and never do a thing with them. But i'm sure the horses don't give a fig as long as they're fed and get to play out etc. I admit my only problem with the situation is that i'm probably jealous
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No it irritates the life out of me too - and I am a woman!

I just hate seeing nice horses go to waste on livery yards where the owners sit round drinking coffee talking about what they are going to do instead of actually getting on and doing it!
 
I know Tim a bit, and can assure you that in no way is he a snob. He's a pragmatist and a VERY hard worker. He said of the girl he taught in the TV programme "Faking It" (which I didn't see) that he was annoyed that on leaving, she said thank you to him and Laura and the staff, but not to what he thought the most important i.e. the horse she had been riding.
 
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well, the horse doesn't know that it's a superstar - it doesn't suffer and if they can afford proper care for it - why not?

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I agree, if the horse is well looked after, loved and happy and the person is happy with the situation, who cares?
 
TBH my reason for posting was that TS came across like a male chauvinist p@g, does it really hurt anyone if owners choose not to ride, as long as the horses are well cared for so what.No horse is going to be stood in the field saying bloo@y hell I should be going around badminton, as long as idleness doesn't turn into behavioural issues cos someone needs to ride it no harm done. He says horses love to be ridden but how do we really know that, all the bucking, napping, evasions etc etc.....
 
Fair enough when you have a hairy cob - leave it to 'enjoy' the field, but when you buy a horse thats bred to work, and then leave it - IMO thats where problems start and people go on the whole 'my horse is wild' saga...its not love, It just needs work.
 
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Fair enough when you have a hairy cob - leave it to 'enjoy' the field, but when you buy a horse thats bred to work, and then leave it - IMO thats where problems start and people go on the whole 'my horse is wild' saga...its not love, It just needs work.

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totally agree!!!! they then go and send it away to some professional for schooling!!
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Yes he did come across like that, but who cares what he thinks?

Some people like to have the contact and interaction with a horse, but not necessarily ride it.

Sometimes my OH will help towards the cost of my horse, but thats because he is a nice caring person.
 
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I know Tim a bit, and can assure you that in no way is he a snob. He's a pragmatist and a VERY hard worker. He said of the girl he taught in the TV programme "Faking It" (which I didn't see) that he was annoyed that on leaving, she said thank you to him and Laura and the staff, but not to what he thought the most important i.e. the horse she had been riding.

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I'm sure he did, but as another person who read his comments in Horse and Rider it certainly put me off him. He comes across as very critical of the ordinary rider who may not want to bsja/compete. Possibly accidental, possibly not.

And then after causing such a problem with said column, he went to do Only Fools on Horses, which though bringing good attention to our sport, was promoting celebrities into a competition career. He really does come across in his columns and activites that he feels any horse not in competition is being wasted. Which unfortunately excludes the vast majority of UK horse riders.
 
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Fair enough when you have a hairy cob - leave it to 'enjoy' the field, but when you buy a horse thats bred to work, and then leave it - IMO thats where problems start and people go on the whole 'my horse is wild' saga...its not love, It just needs work.

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totally agree!!!! they then go and send it away to some professional for schooling!!
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THANK YOU! Totally! Schooling = work, horse gets back, doesnt get worked, and goes lala!
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I used to work at a dressage yard where most of the liveries were la-de-dahs supported by their OHs so the tradition is definitely still alive and kicking!

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Absolutely! I'm one of about 3 on my yard (of about 25) that has a full time job and am self sufficient, the others are "Ladies Wot Lunch"!!

Mind you, how many kids do you know that pay for the ponies themselves, or at least contribute towards them?!
 
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when you buy a horse thats bred to work, and then leave it - IMO thats where problems start and people go on the whole 'my horse is wild' saga...its not love, It just needs work.

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That's what has happened to a WB on my yard. Bought as a trophy horse by a complete novice, it is now a liability to have around. The horse doesn't need any more new kit, it needs a job and some decent exercise.
 
There was someone like this on our yard about 4 years ago - their business was doing well and she had said she loved horses, so her husband bought her a 4yr old TB for Christmas!
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She couldn't even ride! She had no clue!

To be fair, she did give it a good go, but the horse was WAAAYYY too much for her. It ended up jumping out of the school and throwing her off, so they sold it. They used to turn up to the yard in a ferrari
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very annoying.....
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I also know a woman who used to buy the liveliest ponies for her daughter, who happened to be a nervous wreck! She always had 'the best ponies' but the poor kid was scared to death of them - they were loonies!
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People are strange.....
 
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