I think he tyed up last night

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Cant be 100% sure, but when I bought Arch in from the field last night, his back end was right up underneath him and his back was right up and his sides were puffed out and he was shaking. When I tried to touch his sides he was in obvious pain and when standing he was shifting his weight from leg to leg.
I bundled him up so he was nice and warm and put some bute and loads of salt in his dinner, but he wouldnt eat it, he just stood at the back of his table shifting his weight.
Got up the yard thismorning and he seemed better, still a little sore to touch on his sides, but he'd eaten all his haylege and his breakfast. Ive turned him out today, but am still abit worried about him.
Do you think he was tying up? Should I have turned him out today?
 
You sure its not colic? Has he poo'd since last night? Pretty sure tying up mainly effects their hindquarters rather than their sides. Not had a horse tie up so I might be talking out of my ar$e here
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I would get the vet if it was my horsey. Azotouria can cause long term damage to the liver if it is left untreated. If he has tied up once, he will be more likely to do it again so it is important to find out exactly what happened last night.
 
Better to be safe than sorry
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EVen make a quick call and voice your concerns and let the vet decide if he could do with a visit. Hope he's feeling better soon
 
Completely agree with GinaB. Phone your vets and have a chat. They will soon tell you if you are being a paranoid horse owner or not. Tying up can be a big deal if it isn't treated properly.
 
It sounds like tying up but maybe he could also have had a fall in the field & pulled muscles?? You can get the vet to test his muscle enzymes which would tell you if he tied up. I would think turnout is ok as long as he has a nice warm rug on because it will hopefully get him moving around. My YOs horse has tied up in the past & they don't ride him again until his blood is back to normal. With him it is to do with hard feed - he can't have much at all & has to survive on chaff, haylage & a few nuts. I had a pony years ago that was prone to it. We used to make sure he went out in the field every day without fail & cut his feed down a lot if he was off work & also the day before & after a competition & all of that seemed to do the trick. I think every horse is probably different though - do you know what might have triggered it in your boy? Poor lad, hope he recovers soon.
 
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Thank you everyone. I have just spoken to the vet and he wants to come and take some blood tests. Im worried now, fingers crossed.
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I'd maybe not turn him out for too long...especially if he's a bit 'lively' in the field.
Hope everything is ok for you.
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I don't understand some people, their horse obviously has something wrong with it and they self treat .. not knowing what is wrong with them and don't call the vet
Hope your horse will be okay and not done any lasting muscle damage if he has tyed up
 
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sorry if this is a silly question, but what does tyed up mean?

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There's a whole lot of different terms - azoturea, azoturia, Monday morning disease, equine rhabdomyolysis, tying up, etc. They usually refer to a type of muscle cramps/problems affecting the gluteal muscles...
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Oh hun - when is the vet coming??? Will work let you leave if they will come out ASAP - I know Id want to get it sorted if it was Osc.

Call me if u want me to do anything - my work are pretty good and will let me go if you need me.

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Thank you everyone. I have just spoken to the vet and he wants to come and take some blood tests. Im worried now, fingers crossed.
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I have my fingers crossed for you both, try not to worry too much x
 
The vet will test for CK and AST levels in his blood. One shows up straight away, the other comes up about 48 hours later...if he has tied up.
Normal levels are around 300 and 600, so they will be able to tell straight away if he did.
My girly tied up 9 weeks ago, her levels were 77,000 when it happened (although that was very severe), however, if he did tie up, depending on how severe it was, possible treatment would be 100% box rest and no feed whatsoever. Injections to help relax the muscles and pain relief, together with bute. They may even take bloods to test any effect on the liver. Blood tests taken every week or so, to ascertain when the levels are coming back to normal.
I hope he's ok, this can be a dangerous thing if left untreated so I'm glad you are getting the vet out.

lizzylulu - tying up is another name for azortoria or monday morning disease (and a number of other names!). It generally occurs when a horse is box rested and either doesn't have feed reduced accordingly and receieves too much starch/sugar or is taken straight out to hard exercise..although this isn't always the case. Enzymes are released into the blood stream which essentially close off the blood vessels to the muscles. This can then release toxins into the liver.
 
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