lucemoose
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Nope, not talking about hip hop...but a link to a US forum where they are talking about rapping or pole-ing...
Wrong.
Click for people discussing horse abuse as if it was normal.
Wrong.
I Thought "Rapping" was Illegal....
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DanielleP
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Scary
jumpthemoon
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That's disgraceful!
I know someone who used to work for a dealer somewhere round here who does that though - and worse
I know someone who used to work for a dealer somewhere round here who does that though - and worse
lucemoose
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I was told that it would help my horse..was open mouthed gobsmacked.
And alot of the posters are saying that they do it because thats what their trainers do, unbelievable.
And alot of the posters are saying that they do it because thats what their trainers do, unbelievable.
carthorse
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Anywhere were there are animals and money concerned there is abuse.
They make me sick.
I was once asked to give a friend a lesson at a showjumpers yard.When I went in the school there was gorse tied around poles and electric wires above jumps.The said'show jumper ' nearly died when I walked in and said she had not lent my client the school to have a lesson, only to ride in and could we leave.When I see her win I am not impressed at all as I know why her horses hate to touch a pole.
They make me sick.
I was once asked to give a friend a lesson at a showjumpers yard.When I went in the school there was gorse tied around poles and electric wires above jumps.The said'show jumper ' nearly died when I walked in and said she had not lent my client the school to have a lesson, only to ride in and could we leave.When I see her win I am not impressed at all as I know why her horses hate to touch a pole.
lillie07
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It is suprisingly common
(not that in any way makes it OK)- just not talked about in such an open fashion normally.
Blackhawk
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The pole was about 14' long and wrapped in padding and duct tape.
A person stood on each end of the jump holding an end of the pole. As the horse went over the apex of the jump, the people jerked the pole up and whacked the horse on the shins. They did this 2 times.
Then the horse wasn't jumped again until the horse show.
He did well at Del Mar, placed in the GP with a Rookie. Did the poling make a difference? Who knows?
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The pole was about 14' long and wrapped in padding and duct tape.
A person stood on each end of the jump holding an end of the pole. As the horse went over the apex of the jump, the people jerked the pole up and whacked the horse on the shins. They did this 2 times.
Then the horse wasn't jumped again until the horse show.
He did well at Del Mar, placed in the GP with a Rookie. Did the poling make a difference? Who knows?
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DollyPentreath
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I was once asked to give a friend a lesson at a showjumpers yard.When I went in the school there was gorse tied around poles and electric wires above jumps.
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I've heard of people using gorse too and hedgehog skins
. But I'll happily go out and jump fairly big gorse bushes on the forest though! I suppose that's different..
I was once asked to give a friend a lesson at a showjumpers yard.When I went in the school there was gorse tied around poles and electric wires above jumps.
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I've heard of people using gorse too and hedgehog skins
zizz
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i know of a show jumper from the south east that was rumoured to rap his horses and is still competing. My mother used to compete against him occassionally and once found his horse wandering around the showground as it had untied itself. he didn't seem very concerned, says it all really
Nailed
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still very common.. Illegal yes.. unpractised? NO way.
The old method still do there job., Abuse or not, sport i cruel.
Dont get me wrong, im not defending there principles, but they do encourage clearance and i would prefer to have my horse rapped with a pole that blistered.. As horses still are.
Lou x
The old method still do there job., Abuse or not, sport i cruel.
Dont get me wrong, im not defending there principles, but they do encourage clearance and i would prefer to have my horse rapped with a pole that blistered.. As horses still are.
Lou x
KatB
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There are lots of techniques still widely used. Some are alot better than others, but that doesnt make them right! I have heard of Sjers using the "spiky" beer bottle tops under tendon boot straps, so if the horse hits the pole they get the sharp edge of the bottle top, people rapping horses legs with scaffolding poles, using an irritant on the horses coronet band that makes it sore and swell, so they darent touch a pole... the list goes on...
PaddyMonty
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I have a feeling that rapping is a lot more common in this country than people believe. It's just not discussed openly.
MagicMelon
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Sorry totally off topic here - But just found another topic about eventing:
http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=96486
One person has said:
"Back 30 years ago the rumor was that eventing was where you went if you had balls and were not good enough to do hunters, jumpers or dressage.
Then things cleaned up and eventers were better riders than most.
Now eventing again is the place where folks who cannot do hunter, jumpers or dressage worth a crap come and ride.
Instant gratifacation is the modern mantra --good riding and horsemanship is non existant"
OH MY GOD!!!!!! WHAT A MORON!
http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=96486
One person has said:
"Back 30 years ago the rumor was that eventing was where you went if you had balls and were not good enough to do hunters, jumpers or dressage.
Then things cleaned up and eventers were better riders than most.
Now eventing again is the place where folks who cannot do hunter, jumpers or dressage worth a crap come and ride.
Instant gratifacation is the modern mantra --good riding and horsemanship is non existant"
OH MY GOD!!!!!! WHAT A MORON!
K9Wendy
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A few years ago I was in an indoor school with my daughter watching her lesson, it was a well respected professional's yard.
She had forgotten her stick and quite often you will find sticks sitting on top of kickboards. I ran my hand along the top of the kickboards (was about an 8 inch drop behind it) and AOOCH that was sore!! I had run my hand along a pole with carpet grippers nailed all the way along and round it!! No guessing what that was for!!
She had forgotten her stick and quite often you will find sticks sitting on top of kickboards. I ran my hand along the top of the kickboards (was about an 8 inch drop behind it) and AOOCH that was sore!! I had run my hand along a pole with carpet grippers nailed all the way along and round it!! No guessing what that was for!!
kayleigh_and_rocky
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I know a LOT of local 'professional' showjumpers that regularly rap there horses....it makes me very angry
KateStartin
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Sorry but it happens....a lot. It is wrong and to my mind damn cruel. But to many professionals it is not about the horses but the prizes, money and status.
mat
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I worked for someone that used to use a pole that still had all of the sharp knots etc on it and was SOOO heavy.. it made a right mess of the horses legs when they hit it... I didn't work for THAT person for very long...
ann-jen
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Sadly there is a big yard near me where this is common practice amongst other things including using an electric cattle goad! It always amazes me that so many people keep there horses there, go for lessons and to the shows there.
PapaFrita
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Very common here. There is a club here with a very good competition record. F informs me that the groom goes into the stable of each horse before a show with a broomstick and whacks it on the shins until it's so sore it won't touch a pole.
Absolutely disgraceful IMO!
Absolutely disgraceful IMO!