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I think I would count as a younger member at 18, and I certainly don't gove advice unless it's something I've had experience of, I think it's quite an un-wise thing to do to give people advice that you aren't 100% about especially in an environment like this where you can't talk face to face and haven't got the horse in front of you.
As regards taking advice, I'll read the answers to my post and then take on board the bits of information that I think might work in my case, and then go and try them, talk them through with my instructer or YO..............
Quite thought provoking though!
 
Aw Gentle Warrior thanks x and I know you're not taking the ps so don't worry. I know my post is a tad long but I say what I feel and sometimes can't edit what I want to say lol.
I agree with you about the 14 year old and not being agist as I have found I get on with people from all ages but young people especially, maybe because I'm like a big sister and they can sound off at me about stuff they don't want their parents to know lol. On the other hand I have asked for advice from teenagers before in situations, from college to uni, from work, to home and in keeping and riding horses.
I used to ask about owning horses and all the nitty gritty that goes with keeping them years before I even owned any.
I usually found ( in the past) that most of the horse owners that were willing to actually offer advice or talk and show you things were in fact the teenagers. I found that most of the adult owners were either 'stuck-up', didn't have the time or because you did not own a horse already why should they even have to talk to you about them - as you obviously know sod all seeing as you don't own any already- attitude.
Again personal experience. But I think younger owners like to talk about them because many have parents who are either not interested in horses or else they wanted their kids to do what they wanted to do themselves ( when they were younger and didn't) and then lose interest.
I mean it is the same for me now. My partner will help me muck out and groom etc and has had a go on my lad but basically he doesn't give a sh*** about them and just switches off if I try and talk about them.
Forums like this are good for that too.
Many people are most probably in similar situations and find they can have 'horsey' conversations on here and that is surely a good thing.
Friendships can be formed- worldwide in the case of this forum- and people can increase their knowledge of horse ownership and as well as passing on information to others can have a damned good laugh too
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Life is too short and too serious sometimes and I think we all feel the need for some light hearted banter and jokes and this forum provides that too. Sorry going off the thread topic there a tad, sorry Tia.
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I knew my comment would be taken the wrong way. There are PLENTY of *younger* members on here that I pay a hell of a lot of attention to.

I would NEVER dismiss someone's post of advise based on their age, that is a ridiculous notion! I was merely stating that it is younger members who are more prone to agreeing with things.

No one here is using the forum to pander to other users self esteem. If you post advice and then are told "no it is wrong" then stand your ground/argue your corner if you truely believe in what you have posted (and you must, or surely you would not have posted it in the first place). If you realise, however, that you were wrong, then learn from it and revel in the fact we have such a fantastic FREE way of learning on here!

Oh and further up someone said it wasn't to do with age it was to do with longevity on the forum - that IS complete and utter tosh! If someone took my advice on, say, breeding over, say sallyf's, then more fool them!!!!
 
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I could give hundreds of examples that would back me up in this; it is usually (and sorry I am being ageist here) younger users that do it

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just want to say Weezy- not aimed particularly at you- just at this statement! Off the subject maybe, but here goes!

It kind of makes me mad because I ride for quite a few people, none of them would let anyone go near their horse unless they were 100%recommended by a trusted friend, and they were that they were knowledgeable enough to cope should anything happen. I have had many horses, seen them through alot of injuries, ailments(sp?) and alike, and yet when I see a post on here and think I may have something to contribute, Im totally ignored because perhaps Im not what the more mature members would call "good enough", and it really winds me up. And then, when I agree with someone's advice because I genuinely do agree, I get ignored because, presumably, Im doing it to look "knowledgable"
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To be honest, Im not an a**e licker, I dont really care if you guys dont think Im knowledgable enough, at the end of the day I know I am, I come personally recommended by very respected horsemen/woman in this area and I am not hellbent on having to prove that to HHO, but I do get fed up for being ignored because of my age, or because I "stay" in the CR. Its just rediculous!

Again Weezy, not 100% aimed at you, Ill get off my high horse now, but I only give my advice if I really think I may be able to contribute and being put in the box with the other "young users" so to speak does get my back up.

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Personally, I wouldn't disregard your opinion because of your age, however, I think what people are trying to say is that they would perhaps take more notice of someone with a good solid background of horsemanship gained over many years, rather than a teenager who has never had sole responsibilty for a horse, and has adult back-up every time a problem arises.

It's like comparing babysitting someone elses child for a few hours, to having a child of your own. It'a a whole different ball game.
If I wanted child rearing advice, I would tend to listen more to the advice of someone who is a parent themselves, rather than a young person who babysits.

It's not meant to be ageist - it's just how it is.
 
Interesting post! I realise that I have alot to learn - I've been out of riding for so long.

I tend to ask for advice alot but sometimes I'm taken the wrong way due to the way I ask a question - was like my full livery post and people asked why I had a horse if it was on full livery when I always call mucking out etc full when it's only part!

I think there are some really knowledgeable people on here - there's not many people I'd say hand out duff advice and to be honest alot of the time I use HHO as a sounding board ....

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It's like comparing babysitting someone elses child for a few hours, to having a child of your own. It'a a whole different ball game.
If I wanted child rearing advice, I would tend to listen more to the advice of someone who is a parent themselves, rather than a young person who babysits.

It's not meant to be ageist - it's just how it is.

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teenager wise that does depend on how much your parents are doing your horse for you or whether until a real problem arises you have pretty much sole responsibility of your horse. there are plenty of people i know who have their own horse but there parents have nothing to do with it except to pay insurance etc. - im lucky to have a Mum that takes a real interest in my horses. That statement is quite a sweeping one although i understand what you mean - it probably does apply to me...
 
Heres my two penneth....... I dont tend to give much advice on HHO because I am usually so slow at this computer lark that someone else has usually beaten me to it !!
I like the more jovial posts.
There is always someone who knows more than someone else so I leave the advice to those.
I do find that people call a vet for the smallest of reasons. I think mt horse has seen a vet 3 times in the 17 years i have owned him !!!
If I was to ask advice then i would put up a post and pick out what I wanted from it.
There are too many ways of doing things
 
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rather than a teenager who has never had sole responsibilty for a horse, and has adult back-up every time a problem arises.

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Was that aimed particularly at me? Because if it was, then that is futher than the truth than you could ever know! Im not even going to say anymore because Im actually quite offended it that was aimed particularly at me, and well Im not going to say something Ill regret!.

I totally understand that experience comes with age, no matter how many horses you have, and age will always have that slight advantage over youth. Im not disputing that, and I never will.
 
God this really is an interesting post - TBH I often don't reply to posts with opinions or advice because despite having grown up with horses I'm only 5 or 6 years back into after a long break and am not really qualified and then even when I might be qualified to comment or offer advice I reckon there's always someone more experienced who will offer better advice (to be honest I'll read back over something I was thinking of posting and imagine people's raised eyebrows going 'what does she know' and then delete it!!)...which means sometimes I feel like a bit of a sponge...getting all the help and not giving any back!
On the flip side though there are quite a few people who, no matter how nicely or not they word their posts, I reckon really know what they are talking about, and usually really want to help. It's about seeing the woods for the trees ....the other great thing is that you will get a mix of opinions on 'how to' or 'should I' which allows you to get a balance of views...you can chose what to take or leave but as a source of learning it's fantastic...following other people's posts is an education in itself.
 
I dont think any of the advice given comes down to age, it is all derived from experiences, good and bad, and some younger members can have more experience in real life than adults who have started riding in their latter years and just got their first horse.

Personally I wont give any advice unless it is something i have experienced at first hand.

I do find a lot of people on here worry a lot BUT then again they may not have the experience that some others do on here, maybe they have only been in the game 10 years and seen 10 years worth than some who have had 20 or 30 years worth. It all boils down to what background you are from, what aspects of horses you are involved in and how much your involvement with horses has taken you.
 
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Was that aimed particularly at me? Because if it was, then that is futher than the truth than you could ever know! Im not even going to say anymore because Im actually quite offended it that was aimed particularly at me, and well Im not going to say something Ill regret!.

I totally understand that experience comes with age, no matter how many horses you have, and age will always have that slight advantage over youth. Im not disputing that, and I never will.



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huh?? that was NOT aimed at you!!!!!!
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Eh?! I was talking to Dubble hun
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Gosh... this is all very interesting to read!

Like some others have said, I value certain users opinions on things. For example, I am very new to this breeding thing, and although I have tried to read up on the subject as much as possible, there are still many things I believe you only get to know through experience. For example, someone recommended plaiting Hannah's tail as it is easier to handle, so I have now done this. I would never have known to do it though if someone on here had not mentioned it.

I will only give advice when I feel confident enough to so do. One example, I have been through hell and back with Grace's mudfever, tried everything and learned a lot from the vet through their visits to check her over. I am also getting to know a lot more about foaling and in foal mares, and I am quite knowledgable on colic because Hannah is very prone to it and I have had some horrendous scares with her and now know more about what to look at, what to do etc etc.

However, there are many things I do not know much about, but I have always been prepared to hear someone's advice. I think the problems occur when someone asks for advice but then refuses to take said advice.
 
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teenager wise that does depend on how much your parents are doing your horse for you or whether until a real problem arises you have pretty much sole responsibility of your horse. there are plenty of people i know who have their own horse but there parents have nothing to do with it except to pay insurance etc. - im lucky to have a Mum that takes a real interest in my horses. That statement is quite a sweeping one although i understand what you mean - it probably does apply to me...

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My parents were non horsey, and I had the day to day responsibility for a laminitic, fat, pony, and that is why I can say, hand on heart, that it's not even in the same league as actually having true responsibility for a horse.

As I said previously, I would never discount a younger persons opinion, and I'll openly say that there are some extremely knowledgable young people on here, however, I would be more likely to take advice from someone who has years of 'true' horse care experience under their belt.
 
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Nooo. not you guys. Infact I would not have guessed you to be young at all! At the moment you will be chuffed with that comment, in a few years you will want to punch me!! hahahahahaaa

Hey, See how we put "young users" in the same box. Yet a lot of HHO's younger users are knowledgable, sensible and pretty grown up. You don't need to go in to hiding, you were already disguised. LOL

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thankies *creeps slowly out of hiding*
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ahh but the thing is as youngsters - we can sound all knowledgeable and then get found out very easily when we put up a reply that sounds or often is ridiculous and stupid - certainly im sure ive been a culprit of that many a time!!!
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Me too!!
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My parents were non horsey, and I had the day to day responsibility for a laminitic, fat, pony, and that is why I can say, hand on heart, that it's not even in the same league as actually having true responsibility for a horse

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what would you count as true responsibility?
 
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My parents were non horsey, and I had the day to day responsibility for a laminitic, fat, pony, and that is why I can say, hand on heart, that it's not even in the same league as actually having true responsibility for a horse

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what would you count as true responsibility?

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Hannah? How did you manage that? you reply to me but are quoting Dubble!! GEEEENIUS!!
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You had me totally confused for a minute. LOL!!
 
My 'box' of old-timers with years of experience and common sense advice' is not restricted to the over thirties. I read each poster's comments and advice and decide for myself what I think is sensible and sound, regardless of their age (which isn't often obvious).

Occasionally, I see a picture and am blown away by the riding talents of some of our younger members. Respect!
 
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Occasionally, I see a picture and am blown away by the riding talents of some of our younger members. Respect!

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rather than a teenager who has never had sole responsibilty for a horse, and has adult back-up every time a problem arises.

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Was that aimed particularly at me? Because if it was, then that is futher than the truth than you could ever know! Im not even going to say anymore because Im actually quite offended it that was aimed particularly at me, and well Im not going to say something Ill regret!.

I totally understand that experience comes with age, no matter how many horses you have, and age will always have that slight advantage over youth. Im not disputing that, and I never will.

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No, it wasn't aimed specifically at you, so calm down.

No matter how involved in horse care a minor is, they are still a minor, so do not have ultimate responsibility for the care of the horse.

Very few minors earn their own money to buy their own horse, pay for it's livery, decide on feed and collect it from the merchants, pay for vet treatment and liase with the vet, pop out of school for the farrier/vet visits, transport their horses to shows, etc etc etc, without help from an adult.

My opinion is based purely on the variety of questions that are asked on this forum.
For example, if I was asking about juggling work with an impending vet/farrier visit, or what 4x4 would be best to tow a trailer, I wouldn't expect you to be able to advise me.

Try not to take things so personally.
 
I totally agree Tia and having started out with a loan horse and moved to my own I would argue the same 'responsibility' case re loan v own... being TOTALLY responsible for a horse is such a huge thing.
 
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