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What do people think of the following stallions? There is such a huge difference between the likes of Carrabawn Cross and Gortlea Ruler, hard to believe they are the same breed!

Carrabawn Cross:

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j...axYcfeDa85Hl9y77w&sig2=6K5cmc_EjCevUjzrHGGcRA

Gortlea Ruler:

http://www.irishdraught.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=200&Itemid=352

Clonleigh Dancer:

http://www.irishdraught.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=239&Itemid=352

I'm also looking out for Creevagh Grey Rebel and Rebel Flagmount, can't find any good pictures though.

Doing some research in advance of the Dublin Show, can't wait! I find it hard to believe the bone measurements in the HSI stallion book, ID stallions with 21.5cms?!
 
dianchi said:
There are some fab ones in the UK!
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But Kacey88 is in Ireland .,.,.

Depends what you are trying to breed OP - are you going for traditional or wanting something more sporty? I've a yard full of pure IDs and some of them are like chalk and cheese to each other :)

Personally I like anything Agherlow lines because of the temperament, I love Gurraun Golden Eye because of the traditional stamp, and I can rave for hours about Sir Rivie (sadly no more but you can still get semen I think) for quality and athleticism, although his offspring can be a bit quirky (that's the Seacrest bit coming through ;) Oh and for all round ness I like Grange Bouncer.
 
Rowreach said:
But Kacey88 is in Ireland .,.,.

Depends what you are trying to breed OP - are you going for traditional or wanting something more sporty? I've a yard full of pure IDs and some of them are like chalk and cheese to each other :)

Personally I like anything Agherlow lines because of the temperament, I love Gurraun Golden Eye because of the traditional stamp, and I can rave for hours about Sir Rivie (sadly no more but you can still get semen I think) for quality and athleticism, although his offspring can be a bit quirky (that's the Seacrest bit coming through ;) Oh and for all round ness I like Grange Bouncer.
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I want a small ID to cross with my cob x mare. I want an allrounder really, my mare sure can jump but something with lovely movement would be great. I prefer the ones with a bit more bone, but I also want something with a lovely, longer neck as my mare's is a bit on the short side.
 
Kacey88 said:
I want a small ID to cross with my cob x mare. I want an allrounder really, my mare sure can jump but something with lovely movement would be great. I prefer the ones with a bit more bone, but I also want something with a lovely, longer neck as my mare's is a bit on the short side.
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How about an overheight Connemara? They can often be 'mini' IDs and are a bit more athletic than their bigger brethern :)
 
Cappuccino said:
How about an overheight Connemara? They can often be 'mini' IDs and are a bit more athletic than their bigger brethern :)
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I was thinking that, but I couldn't find any overheight stallions (maybe for showing reasons?) and also, I want to add a bit of height to my mare, I know you can never be sure, but I reckon a 16hh stallion might give me something that's 15.1/15.2hh.
 
Rowreach said:
Come T or Rakish Paddy?
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Rakish Paddy is lovely but perhaps too big at 169cms. Mare is only 15hh. Come T isn't chunky enough for my liking! I like the more traditional ones, hopefully find one that suits with 23cms + of bone.

I was researching Blue Champion, but he might not still be around. Can't find any pictures of Rebel Flagmount, although he seems nice on paper, maybe he'll be at the RDS. Creevagh Grey Rebel is probably a bit more modern but he is lovely too. The list gets longer instead of shorter!
 
lol it's difficult to get chunky with a long neck :) that's why I picked Come T. I love RP but agree he's a bit tall. Too many of them are too tall these days imo. They're not meant to be! Creevagh Grey Rebel is nice. Agherlow's often get more length of neck.
 
Rowreach said:
lol it's difficult to get chunky with a long neck :) that's why I picked Come T. I love RP but agree he's a bit tall. Too many of them are too tall these days imo. They're not meant to be! Creevagh Grey Rebel is nice. Agherlow's often get more length of neck.
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I agree, but it seems that when they are shown the bigger ones are often favoured? Maybe I'm wrong. I need to see Rebel Flagmount! I also have Rockrimmon Robusticus on my list. Cappa Cochise seems nice too.
 
Rowreach said:
Forgot about Cappa Cochise, he's very nice, seen him in the flesh :)
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Yeah I really like him, is there any way you can find out what stallions will be in Dublin next Friday? I really want to see this guy. Did you see him up close? I wonder what sort of temperament he has, such a stunner.
 
If you're looking for a smaller, lighter type of ID I'd recommend Rebel Mountain. I used him for my halfbred mare and now have a lovely filly by him, he's not typical ID as he is quite compact but he has a wonderful temperment and movement. He reminds me of an overgrown Connemara as he has a very handsome head aswell!
I've also used Grange Bouncer who you can't beat for temperment, I know alot of GBs and they are all very good allrounders and athletic jumpers, however can lack a little in movement. But you won't find a better horse to hunt as they are born knowing how to jump a ditch!
 
buzzles said:
I've also used Grange Bouncer who you can't beat for temperment, I know alot of GBs and they are all very good allrounders and athletic jumpers, however can lack a little in movement. But you won't find a better horse to hunt as they are born knowing how to jump a ditch!
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Some might - one I had was the most incredible mover I've seen for a pure-bred ID - and I've got quite a few that move very well!
 
There's also Dunbeggan Grey Mist:
http://www.horsesportireland.ie/_fi...ok/ID_Dunbeggan_Grey_Mist_result_06.05.11.pdf
His sire is a half brother to the Pride of Shaunlara (o/o Boston Burglar) so the blood is fairly close up in him.
He lives down the road for me and is a lovely impressive individual with a good temp and not too big. He was at Cavan I think at the Stallion parade last year.
I think Dunkerrin Grey Mist (his sire) is still standing in Roscommon?
Another vote for Come T he's a lovely stallion in the flesh and quite a sporty model!
Oh and the son of the guy who stands Rebel Mountain is on here as Rebel Mountain (rather appropriately!) so maybe you could PM him?
Oh and Sir Rivie was one of the nicest RID stallions to stand in hte modern era IMHO. He had the jump, the looks, the athletiscism and poke. Such a pity he died so soon.
 
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I'm no expert but I have met Creevagh Grey Rebel, he is a lovely chap. Real spunky little jumper, not particularly tall but by god he can get off the ground. Personally I liked him - a good balance between the older, more solidly built (brick outhouse...:P) style and the more modern athletic style IDs to my mind. Good strong build and bone without being too heavy.
 
lillith said:
I'm no expert but I have met Creevagh Grey Rebel, he is a lovely chap. Real spunky little jumper, not particularly tall but by god he can get off the ground. Personally I liked him - a good balance between the older, more solidly built (brick outhouse...:P) style and the more modern athletic style IDs to my mind. Good strong build and bone without being too heavy.
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I really like him too, he's on my shortlist. I hope there are loads at the RDS next week, one thing seeing them on paper and another in the flesh. Does anyone know how many are usually at it, and do you get a chance to see them in the stable at any stage?
 
Kacey88 said:
I really like him too, he's on my shortlist. I hope there are loads at the RDS next week, one thing seeing them on paper and another in the flesh. Does anyone know how many are usually at it, and do you get a chance to see them in the stable at any stage?
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Yup! Just ask when the owners are around, that's how I've done it.
Enjoy!
 
What about Blue Rajah if he's still alive, 16.1hh, 23.0cm bone. theres a picture of rebel mountain on sporthorsedatabase.com. i saw King Alton at the RDS, thought he was a more traditional type (Merry mate x Kildalton son).
Cappa cochise is lovely he really showed off his paces especially when he got loose in the arena ;) great pictures up on the cappa stud facebook page of his antics.
 
chicolena said:
What about Blue Rajah if he's still alive, 16.1hh, 23.0cm bone. theres a picture of rebel mountain on sporthorsedatabase.com. i saw King Alton at the RDS, thought he was a more traditional type (Merry mate x Kildalton son).
Cappa cochise is lovely he really showed off his paces especially when he got loose in the arena ;) great pictures up on the cappa stud facebook page of his antics.
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I do like Blue Rajah actually, this picture of King Alton puts me off, plus he has a short neck and so does my mare http://www.irishdraught.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=362&Itemid=352.
 
King Alton has a whopper of a head on him as well-not madly plain but big. Cappa Cochise (sp) is a lovely horse in the flesh.
Blue Rajah is dead I'm afraid.
Did you see the 3 yr old in the stallion class in hte RDS? I though he was a lovely balance between traditional and modern. he had bone and substance but was a nice mover and had a great temp. And as he's only 3 he can only get better!!
 
gadetra said:
King Alton has a whopper of a head on him as well-not madly plain but big. Cappa Cochise (sp) is a lovely horse in the flesh.
Blue Rajah is dead I'm afraid.
Did you see the 3 yr old in the stallion class in hte RDS? I though he was a lovely balance between traditional and modern. he had bone and substance but was a nice mover and had a great temp. And as he's only 3 he can only get better!!
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I think he is stunning, don't know why he didn't place. Too big for what I'm after though and he probably has a fair bit more to grow!
 
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