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Christmas_Kate

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I'm not sure if this should be in here or vetinary... it's a long one lol!!

How do I work out an ideal weight for a pony?

Pony is approx 9.3hh and weighs (wait for it) 285k.
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He literally wobbles when he walks and has fat pads on his shoulders. It makes me feel quite ill if I think about it too much. His hairyness ATM does make him look even dumpier. Before anyone shouts, I bought him like that.

Management wise, he's stabled at night, out for a couple of hours a day. He's always happy to come in, in fact probably prefers being in! He doesnt move about alot when he's out, prefers to talk to the chickens and munch on what grass he can. If he can't go out he goes for a long walk.
Whilst he's turned out he's wearing a grazing muzzle. He's hacked out at walk twice to three times a week.

He has a pad of hay a night, which he doesnt eat all of (would say he eats about half). i have tried soaking it etc, but no avail. His teeth are fine.
He has 2 carrots in his snackball, just to keep him entertained, and two handfuls of hi-fi lite morning and night (this is because he doesnt eat much hay) with a multi vitamin. I was going to just replace his hay with Hi Fi at 2 kg a day, but when I saw the volume 2kg is I freaked.... It's alot!
health wise, he's fine. He's bright and alert, but I need to get some weight off of him over the next few months.
Any ideas? Is 1/2 a pad of hay enough for him? During the day he spends most of his time being nosey, and hardly eats any hay then either. I am concerned for his digestive system as obviously he needs a certain amount of fibre.
 

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Actually just looked at said chart and it only has Shetland on it for that height and says ideal weight between 200 and 240kgs. Ideally 220kgs

So yours sounds a bit heavy.
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eek, so he needs to lose about 30 kgs!
 

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Hmmm

I wouldn't worry too much. It sounds as though his diet is fine to me (although someone with more knowledge might be able to offer better advice). I personally would try to up his exercise a bit if poss. If he is anything like my sisters shetland then he is a bit lazy
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Sounds like he is a really good doer
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I'd love to be able to lunge him, but as he's a plod for my toddler I don't want him 'fit' lol. When I walk him out we do lots of trotting etc.
My worry is that he's not eating enough fibre, yet I don't want to replace the hay with something more tempting and make him put on more weight.
 

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You say he is approx 9.3h.......if he were 10h then he could weigh upto about 260kgs
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have you seen the photo? lol. He is fat!!
 

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He is gorgeous!

What about cutting his hay to 1/2 (especially seems as he doesn't eat it all) and feeding him a bucket of good doer Hi fi instead. Then he gets the fibre without the calories
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*actually Manda ponders trying good doer hi fi herself for breakfast....hmmmm*
 

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He is gorgeous!

What about cutting his hay to 1/2 (especially seems as he doesn't eat it all) and feeding him a bucket of good doer Hi fi instead. Then he gets the fibre without the calories
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*actually Manda ponders trying good doer hi fi herself for breakfast....hmmmm*

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He just doesnt seem hungry for hay. he'll pick at it, just for something to do, munch down all of his Hi Fi (he loves that). It's asif he doesnt actually 'like' hay.
 

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Hun, Jelly's the same....I think even if she didn't struggle with hay she wouldn't eat it...sometimes she'll have a pick at it so I keep a bale in just incase, but aside from that she has abit of haylage and her HiFi...she's lost weight on this diet, so I think you're on the right lines with your little chap
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Then why not feed him only hi fi. I am sure you can, although might be worth emailing the feed firm to check. As far as I know you can feed it by the ton without too much trouble.

He is obviously not starving
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and would eat the hay if he was.
 

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you think so? It's just the lack of fibre I worry about. But as I said he is happy in himself. I'm neurotic lol.
I did measure out 2kg of hi Fi and it looked a colossal amount!!
 

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How do you feed Jelly hers? In a huge bucket? do you leave it with her overnight?? Do you just swap straight over or do it gradually?
As he hasnt eaten much this week, just 4 handfuls of Hi Fi and a bit of hay a day would it be okay to give him this amount? Obviously i would split it into two.
 

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Could you perhaps try some Haylage. Horsehage do one for laminitics. I fed my shettie on it when he was on box rest. Otherwise I'd feed him the HiFi. Also for laminitics so he should be fine on it. I'm sure you'll se his weight drop soon if you carry on with your routine..
* how about clipping him so he uses up some energy keeping warm?!!!
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Clip him??
OMG he'd hate me. He stands at the gate shivering as it is lol.

eta...I have thought about it, it seems like a good idea, but like I said before, i'm neurotic and would worry too much about him getting cold. He doesn't sweat (that's because he hardly ever does anything more than a plody trot).
 

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I damp Jelly's feed down as it seems to take her longer to eat, and she'll have a big bucket of it overnight, plus a very small amount of haylage in a haynet so she has to work abit harder to get it.
She's out during the day, and although whilst the snow's been on the ground she's had a bucket in the field with her, she normally would be left with perhaps a slice of hay plus the little bit of grazing that's available til she comes in later in the evening.
I also feed her a balancer as I just felt that on this diet she maybe wasn't getting all the vits that she should have, and she's looking well. The fat pads she had either side of her withewrs have decreased markedly, and she's got more of a pony shape to her now
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If he's already used to the HiFi then I'd say you'd be OK to just give him a bucket and let him get on with it. At first Jelly saw the bucket full of food as a challenge, but eventually she learnt to pace herself and she always has abit of haylage left the next morning, so she's obviously not starving!

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If he was clipped though you could rug him.......think of the rug shopping...I loooooove buying rugs LOL

When I had Tweenie she was 328kgs!!! HUGE!!! I even had her scanned to check she wasn't in foal, much to her displeasure! I started just giving her small handfuls of hay every couple of hours and she was given a tiny amount of Hi Fi lite as a token gesture. I lunged her lightly 5 days out of 7 too. Took about two months for her metabolism to catch up and then all of a sudden the weight started dropping off her. She now weighs 220kgs on my weight tape and I can feel her ribs, although I can't see them.

I have a shetland too and mine looks like a barrel. However, I can easily feel his ribs and he has no fat pads or a cresty neck. He's all hair. If I clipped him, he'd possibly look minute.
 

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Thanks, I think I'll start with 1/2 a bucket and leave him some hay in, then gradually work up, see how he goes.
I am one of these people who lays awake at night worrying that their pony is lying in it's stable with colic. I am relieved to find him alive in the mornings lol. I am one of life's worriers.
 

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If he was clipped though you could rug him.......think of the rug shopping...I loooooove buying rugs LOL

When I had Tweenie she was 328kgs!!! HUGE!!! I even had her scanned to check she wasn't in foal, much to her displeasure! I started just giving her small handfuls of hay every couple of hours and she was given a tiny amount of Hi Fi lite as a token gesture. I lunged her lightly 5 days out of 7 too. Took about two months for her metabolism to catch up and then all of a sudden the weight started dropping off her. She now weighs 220kgs on my weight tape and I can feel her ribs, although I can't see them.

I have a shetland too and mine looks like a barrel. However, I can easily feel his ribs and he has no fat pads or a cresty neck. He's all hair. If I clipped him, he'd possibly look minute.

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We already have rugs..and more on order
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I 'might' give him a belly clip, (might), in a couple of weeks, I'll see how he gets on weight wise.
 

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I gave Dinker, my Shetland, a bib clip when I was doing Tweenie. Not because he needed it, just because I wanted to see how he'd behave. He was as good as gold! I was so tempted to whip it all off! lol
 

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I gave Dinker, my Shetland, a bib clip when I was doing Tweenie. Not because he needed it, just because I wanted to see how he'd behave. He was as good as gold! I was so tempted to whip it all off! lol

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Oh it'd be aamazing if I could clip him all off, he'd actually be half clean lol. Did you have to rug him up afterwards??
 

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I think you are right about losing the weight, but make sure he doesn't suddenly liven up if he starts feeling the cold a bit more with less fat to keep him warm or because he can actually move his legs more quickly! I would keep to your present regime and see if his weight starts reducing with his new diet.
 
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