Ideas/input and poss groomers/kennel/cattery owners may be able to help?

CAYLA

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Right as mentioned before, Im looking into turning an outdoor garage at my mams into a huge indoor dog room, the garage is a very nice built one, it actually looks like a bungalow or granny annex type thing, at present it's empty.

So, the bigger rescue dogs are in inside kennels, so imagine a brick built barn, with stables in, this is how the kennels are for big dogs, mam has her own dogs inside but she is having a second bout of back surgery very soon and grandad lives with her, so her dogs could maybe also do with going into the dog room (till she is recovered), and having a seperate room made for them (a bit like mine, with lots of beds and a settee, kitchen area, heated and washable) it would make them esaier to manage with the rescue whilst we all rally round to look after them and me mam and grandad:D
At present she has an indoor doggy room for all the smaller/older dogs and broken convalescing dogs, but really it's her house and she really should use the room, its really a very nice room, like a massive conservatorey, she spends money she really should not heating it in winter and cooling it in summer.

So I think we need an outdoor doggy room, its only actually a few metres from the house, so my idea

Plastic clad the walls (to make them washable)
at present they are brick.
Tile the floor (again, to make it hygenic and washable) at present its paving stones.
Create a smaller room for her dogs.
Create another for The broken rescues, like the broken greyhounds she has in (or walk in kennels to contain them whislt recovering.

Also will need a crated area, this is where I need input..............

At present all the smaller dogs are crated for bed or when mam goes to work, till me or volunteer goes up to start feeding and cleaning at dinner time, then mam sees to them again when she gets in from work.

I want to keep containment but not crates, as they are not very washable, so its a case of walk in kennels with glass/metal doors, they would be made of brick, and be tiled from top to bottom, or somekind of fibre glass kennel units u can have custom made, as the shore line stainless steel ones (used in vets) are a fortune.
Also if she moved, these custom made ones can be removed.

Does anyone know where the fibre glass ones with mesh doors are made and does anyone use them?, i.e grooms/kennels/cattery?, obs I groom but use crates as I do it from home.
I have seen them in cars but always angled to fit in, never a row of square ones of say 10, even made with 3 on the bottom, then 3 on top, like a stack.
 
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So I had no idea what you are talking about but I googled commercial fibreglass kennels and this came up: http://www.mightypets.com/General-Cage/General-Cage-Fiberglass-Cages.html. I think these are what you are looking for? Obviously no help to you though because they are American (and good grief they are expensive!), but maybe try the same search and see what you came up with more local to you? I think putting "commercial" into the search helped. Hopefully someone will have some direct experience with them though :).
 

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No real help other than i would go with black plastic for the walls.

Our rescue just replaced their plastic with black because while they kept the white clean it marked and looked horrible after a short amount of time.
 

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I don't think anyone in the UK is making fibreglass kennels as some of the old ones were not up to the job. A friend had a bull terrier go through 4 dividers in one night to get to a bitch in season.

Designer kennels will make dividers and doors in custom sizes - http://www.designer-kennels.com/ or you can buy upvc hollow soffit boards that work rather well if you need to line a building. http://www.pvc-warehouse.co.uk/inde...ath=31&zenid=c0aff43432dc3b661521e10e9553709b.

Insulation is cheap at the moment and should not be skimped on.
 

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I would reckon your best bet given the current economic climate is contact some local builders/fabricators contractors and ask for contact details for any young newly qualified lads that need experience but are good. Draw out what you want with them, you explain the dogs needs, they explain to you the building needs and then pay them to do it for cash which will be cheaper, they'll be getting the experience they need and will be more au fait with relevant materials etc
 

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If you dont want to clad the walls then there is a paint used in certain parts of hospitals, can be washed and think its antibacterial or something, bit pricey at £75 a tin but can be washed down etc .. if yr interested in finding out more etc pm me I will ask OH as he uses it and can order at cost.
 

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Hiya I use these crates for grooming I like the dogs to be separated so I know they are safe and they settle really well in them.

http://www.ferplast.com/scheda_prod... & Crates - Pet carriers - Atlas professional

I prefer the ferplast as they unclip quickly so you can take the top off and help the old dogs up they come apart completely so quick and easy to clean plus they have a 'shelf' on the bottom that lets the wee run underneath if they have an accident.

I clad our bath area in the plastic cladding its ok but has dents from a couple of the scabblers if i had a choice i would do it like the hospitals with a floor that goes 6" up the wall so when you wash the floor there are no gaps for the water to seep under and its easy to swill out. Another thing I had done was put a grid in the corner so we can direct the water out.
 

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Oh fab guys, u can always make out what im muttering on about :eek::D

S4sugar thats exactly what I want with the wall material that cladding, cheers:)

And vizzy/pucci, those untis are what I was meaning too, thanx, they do look small, but im assuming they are more like holding pens, so maybe 2 story high and bigger per unit. (Im assuming costly, I could not see prices?

JoseB, do u know where the paint that u put on floors is purchased, the thick stuff that comes in loads of colours, that looks rubbery, and can be mopped, cleaned?

I will def g for darker cladding as the dog get manky in the winter running around the yard and splashing it up the walls:rolleyes:

I also though maybe units made with breeze block and tiled, I wonder if this would be more cot effective, and have the doors made up?

Obs the larger walk in kennels would be made this way, so maybe we should look into making the samller kennels this way?
Thanx Galupy, again thats what I was looking for:)
 

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JoseB, do u know where the paint that u put on floors is purchased, the thick stuff that comes in loads of colours, that looks rubbery, and can be mopped, cleaned?

I used to work in a farm shop that had this type of floor paint and it was fab, totally nonslip even with stuff spilt on it - i can't remember the name of the company that did it but i do know it came in 2 tins that you mixed together then painted on bl**dy fast before it went off! We had similar stuff on the walls too........will rack my brains for the name but try searching for catering floor coverings........

ETA I just did a search and found this - it's not the company I was thinking of but the same kind of product http://www.firwood.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10601&storeId=10001&productId=30626&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=12277
 
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I used to work in a farm shop that had this type of floor paint and it was fab, totally nonslip even with stuff spilt on it - i can't remember the name of the company that did it but i do know it came in 2 tins that you mixed together then painted on bl**dy fast before it went off! We had similar stuff on the walls too........will rack my brains for the name but try searching for catering floor coverings........

ETA I just did a search and found this - it's not the company I was thinking of but the same kind of product http://www.firwood.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10601&storeId=10001&productId=30626&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=12277


Ha ha, I think thats the stuff, Im thinking of actually doing the floors of the inside kennels for the bigger dogs with this, at present they are concrete, and I want them more washable, I wonder what it would be like on the actual kennel floors too and not just the corridor bit?
 

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Yes, best thing we ever did:), although I have since found (the cladded effect) is much more durable (does not puncture when hit with objects) where as the stuff I used for the doggy room at the rescue has in a few places.... say where we have moved things around it has cracked the cladding on impact. But in my dog room at home I went for the white cladded effect plastic boards and they are much tougher and much cheaper (the ones I found) I could link you if you are looking specifically for it. The main things it's washable (which was an important factor) for hygene.
 

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We use fibreglass at work and they are great, the walk ins are tiled, equally as great, easy to wash. Xx not sure how much they are to buy. Think my old boss actually made 4 of them himself and just bought doors, can't remember what he recycled to make them. Can ask tho? Can send you pics too if your interested xxxx
 

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We use fibreglass at work and they are great, the walk ins are tiled, equally as great, easy to wash. Xx not sure how much they are to buy. Think my old boss actually made 4 of them himself and just bought doors, can't remember what he recycled to make them. Can ask tho? Can send you pics too if your interested xxxx

We completed them:) I did want to copy off my work (but works are rather posh) they have double glazed doors on the walk in kennels and are tiled from wall to floor with drainage and under floor heat):rolleyes:

We did mimic them to an extent, I got my OH to tile the dog room walk in kennels (we made 3) from floor to ceiling and we ordered kennel doors (they where a bargain too) I will see if I can rummage through photo bucket and find the doggy room pictures.

Also my work have about 20 shaw line kennels in the dog ward and about 10 in the cat ward and about 6 in isolation (which where probably about £20,000+ or something:( so we are still using our crates where ever we need them, but it was the kind of shaw line but in the thick plastic material I was looking for (which I thought where fibre glass):confused:

I will search for pictures:)
 
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