Ideas of how to counteract grass madness!

[KatB]

I am presuming people are going to recommend magnesium... But any ideas appreciated!

Madam is absolutely hyper at the moment, she is like an ADHT kid on a permanent e numbers drip, which culminated in very uncharacteristic behaviour showjumping yesterday, although she'd been excelling herself with stupid behaviour all week... She is already on Oestress which contains magnesium, though may up the dose... But any other ideas?! She is in in the day, and getting no hard feed other than a balancer and small amount off chaff for her supplements...

 

[stencilface]

That must be nice, mine is a lazy fat lump atm, and will be moving back onto the 'skinny' paddock today

Sorry, no help - again!

 

[SpottedCat]

I think Cool calm and collected would be worth a try - I think it's a pretty good supplement and had good results with it. If she's already on something with magnesium in, I'm not sure upping the dose will help that much?

If you give them my name (or the name of anyone you know who uses it) when you order it (over the phone obviously) you'll get £10 off as they're doing a deal at the moment! (And then I/they get £10 off next time I/they order, but horse not in work therefore not being fed it at the moment!)

 

[KatB]

Thanks SC will have a look....and a bit of a chat with them as if I remember rightly they do lots of different supplements anyway don't they?

 

[SpottedCat]

They do all kinds of stuff, but the expensive winningedge ones have balancer stuff in them too rather than being vastly different from CCC.

 

[Horsemad12]

Work her little legs off!!!!

Naughty lucky.

I have seen people have VERY good results with the topspec calmer.

 

[KatB]

Thanks SC! HM12 she's already being worked as much as I can currently.... !! I was worried her behaviour was soreness somewhere, but thinking about it, its more likely her having more bounce than she knows what to do with!

 

[Firewell]

Is there anyway you can restrict her grass more and give her soaked hay instead? Is she out on a luch field at night?
Id be inclined to put her in a starve paddock at night but with lots of hay, or tape her field off to make it smaller.
If the grass is anything like it is at my yard it is rocket fuel! All the rain we have had this year seems to have made it more potent than usual.

Calmer wise, I have used blue chip instant calmers before a comp and they are quite good. They have l trophine in it or whatever its called, the stuff that works basically .

Also I know balancers arent meant to be heating but I do find them so sometimes, she will be getting lots of protein in the grass and maybe getting an overload with the balancer?! Just a thought, could be worth just taking her off it for a couple of days just to see.

 

[j1ffy]

Any idea how much magnesium is in Oestress? Generally 25g per day is recommended to counteract the imbalance in grass and most supplements have nowhere near that, so getting some magnesium (I get it from Natural Horse Supplies) may be a good plan for a while!

 

[KatB]

Hi Jiffy, thats interesting, thanks... she won't be getting anywhere near that as is only on 20ml of Oestress a day anyway, she wasn't put on it for calming properties...

Firewell, the protein will have very little effect, it used to be the "bad" food but actually it's realised starches and sugars are the culprit for less desirable behaviour, it's the sugar in the grass that sends them mental The balancer is a low cal, low starch one, so I know it's not that (she's been on it for a while) Thank you though.

 

[Evadiva1514]

I had one of my mares on Oestress for a very short time and it sent her a bit crazy!! She's a very marish mare anyway and dictated by her hormones a lot of the time, but after a few days I noticed a marked decline in her behaviour and she just seemed so unsettled in her character I took her off it... I now have her on Natural Horse Supplies Vervain & Magnesium separately.. The difference in her is unbelieveable! Very chilled out and amenable with nice amounts of energy with no peaks and troughs in her general behaviour..Would definitely recommend!

 

[Mickeymoo]

Is there lots of clover in the field? My friend had a horse that went mad on the clover field. Luckily the yard had a 'fat field' and 'thin field', so she just put him on the poorer grazing.

Hope you find a solution soon. xx

 

[meardsall_millie]

There isn't much Magnesium in Oestress tbh - it's perfectly acceptable to feed it with other Magnesium based supplements.

I had one of mine on TS Calmer + Oestress for quite a while and it all worked pretty well. Earlier this year I swapped to CCC + Oestress in the hope it would just help sort out the last little of focus/attention I wanted, however I found her behaviour got worse and worse over a period of time while on it - increasingly spooky (which she never was before), less attentive, and just generally not very pleasant to be around, so I've swapped back to TS Calmer and within a week she's reverted to being rather lovely again (even when in season).

Like anything, what suits one won't suit another, so unfortunately it's trial and error (and deep pockets ) until you find the right thing for your horse.

 

[SpottedCat]

They do warn you on CCC that they can get worse through the loading period, then get better, so you need to be aware of that!

 

[meardsall_millie]

They do warn you on CCC that they can get worse through the loading period, then get better, so you need to be aware of that!

Oh things improved slightly through the loading period, then deteriorated over time (she was on CCC for a number of months) - but you are right, they do tell you that's a possibility