Ideas to cover a shoe please

[AWinter]

I desperately need to get glue on shoes on my horse as he’s so footsore, however he is on a track system and the yard owner doesn’t allow us to shoe in case they get caught up in the Haynets etc. She will allow it if we can find a way to make the shoe almost impossible to catch on anything.

My ideas so far are vet wrap and masking tape like a poultice (probably not a good idea) or putting some sort of human sock over the top?

It’s too muddy for his boots to stay on but he’s too sore on the hard standings.

Any ideas welcome.

 

[AdorableAlice]

This will cover the heel of the shoe

ShoeSecure

www.shoesecure.com

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

If it's that muddy glue on shoes won't stay on what about just padding some poultice boots and leaving them on.

Have you tried hoof armour you apply to the hooves it really helps with those that are a bit footy on hard stony ground.

 

[AWinter]

This will cover the heel of the shoe

ShoeSecure

www.shoesecure.com

Thanks I’ve just had a look but it says only for conventional nailed on shoes, I’ll ask the farrier

 

[AWinter]

If it's that muddy glue on shoes won't stay on what about just padding some poultice boots and leaving them on.

Have you tried hoof armour you apply to the hooves it really helps with those that are a bit footy on hard stony ground.

I don’t have access to anywhere dry enough to apply the hoof armour and I’ve seen mixed results with it, he’s wearing the hoof wall and his heels not just his sole and we need to stop the wear. It’s not insanely deep mud but the mud gets inside the hoof boots and it twists.

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

What boots you using

 

[AWinter]

What boots you using

So he’s got flex boots which absolutely aren’t designed for turnout, cavallos twist and cloud boots I feel are too bulky for him to be pratting about with the other horses.

I’m just having a look and ask around at boots again, do you have any suggestions for what might stay on? I think the issue is the fit for each horse and he is very low heeled, when I had the fitter out she said scoot boots wouldn’t work for him.

I’m pondering equine fusions or the easy boot glove but I’m so worried about spending 100s again for them not to fit well enough.

Thanks

 

[AWinter]

This is the level of mud on the track, I would say it never passes hoof height but it can be a bit sticky/sloppy.

I’m honestly at the point I just want to duct tape some pads to his feet and see what happens, this is so stressful.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Can you box rest him on a deep bed a bit to let his feet settle?

Tbh, although I’ve successfully used Cavello treks for turnout for 24/7 (removed and refitted twice daily) that was in summer on a dry field. Mud is going to get inside any boot.

Is he metabolic?

ETA Just seen your pic. No decent track livery should have mud like that . That looks like a churned up walkway.

 

[AWinter]

Can you box rest him on a deep bed a bit to let his feet settle?

Tbh, although I’ve successfully used Cavello treks for turnout for 24/7 (removed and refitted twice daily) that was in summer on a dry field. Mud is going to get inside any boot.

Is he metabolic?

ETA Just seen your pic. No decent track livery should have mud like that . That looks like a churned up walkway.

Have removed the photo to avoid identification.

Unfortunately having him in a pen costs me an extra £10+ a day on top of my already expensive (for me) livery, I can’t afford to do that for two months (my notice period) and he also gets stressed on his own. The vet has seen him and he’s been in a small pen on painkillers for 3 days, I turned him out through the day today so he is now out and in over night. He’s not hobbling but he is just wearing away any heel and hoof wall and he just looks generally “pottery”. He just cannot cope with the rougher surfaces the way his hooves are at the moment. I’m at my wits end.

 

[Tiddlypom]

I’m sorry that you are such a quarandry, horse owning can be so stressful (and expensive). Is there a grass livery you can send him to where he can be out on the soft but without the hardstanding areas? Somewhere where he could have shoes on?

Abrasive surfaces and/or going unshod don’t suit every horse.

 

[PeterNatt]

Sorry but I fail to understand why his hoof should come in in contact with a Haynet which would be tied up above the ground and what this has got to do with a Track System.?

 

[AWinter]

Sorry but I fail to understand why his hoof should come in in contact with a Haynet which would be tied up above the ground and what this has got to do with a Track System.?

It’s a rule that they’re not allowed to be shod on the track in case they get caught in the nets, the nets aren’t currently on the ground so

 

[Gloi]

I don’t have access to anywhere dry enough to apply the hoof armour and I’ve seen mixed results with it, he’s wearing the hoof wall and his heels not just his sole and we need to stop the wear. It’s not insanely deep mud but the mud gets inside the hoof boots and it twists.

Hoof armor works just putting it on the walls . You can dry the hoof with a nappy first.

 

[AWinter]

Hoof armor works just utting it on the walls . You can dry the hoof with a nappy first.

Thank you I’ve got a farrier calling me on Monday and I’ll see what he comes up with, I think we were just querying having a dry enough environment for it to set.

 

[Gloi]

Thank you I’ve got a farrier calling me on Monday and I’ll see what he comes up with, I think we were just querying having a dry enough environment for it to set.

So long as the hoof is dry to put it on and it isn't a freezing cold day it will set. If you can warm everything up first in your car it will help.

 

[Gloi]

Thank you I’ve got a farrier calling me on Monday and I’ll see what he comes up with, I think we were just querying having a dry enough environment for it to set.

I use it through the winter. It isn't as easy as in summer but with a bit of care it works fine. If your horse will tolerate a hairdryer round his feet that makes it very easy.

 

[Pippin and Poppy]

I desperately need to get glue on shoes on my horse as he’s so footsore, however he is on a track system and the yard owner doesn’t allow us to shoe in case they get caught up in the Haynets etc. She will allow it if we can find a way to make the shoe almost impossible to catch on anything.

My ideas so far are vet wrap and masking tape like a poultice (probably not a good idea) or putting some sort of human sock over the top?

It’s too muddy for his boots to stay on but he’s too sore on the hard standings.

Any ideas welcome.

Would you consider Equus Hoofcast - Temporary Horse Hoof Support (available on ebay) instead of glue on shoes? It looks similar to what our EP barefoot trimmer used after a mare of ours was operated on for quittor.
It must now be applied by a vet or farrier. But should stay on for at least 3 weeks or more if applied by someone with experience.
Besides cushioning the foot, it is also supposed to stimulate growth.

 

[AWinter]

Would you consider Equus Hoofcast - Temporary Horse Hoof Support (available on ebay) instead of glue on shoes? It looks similar to what our EP barefoot trimmer used after a mare of ours was operated on for quittor.
It must now be applied by a vet or farrier. But should stay on for at least 3 weeks or more if applied by someone with experience.
Besides cushioning the foot, it is also supposed to stimulate growth.

This is an option we were looking at but not sure how it would hold up on the track, will discuss with the farrier thank you.

 

[Alibear]

Tricky one. Do they do closed heel glue on shoes so they wouldn’t get stuck in net?

 

[expanding_horizon]

Some hoof boots can be glued on - Evo / east care models, if packed with re horse stuff might last a cycle?

 

[expanding_horizon]

This is an option we were looking at but not sure how it would hold up on the track, will discuss with the farrier thank you.

Hoof cast definitely worth trying even if only lasts 2-3 weeks, might get you over the worst. Though it’s harder to apply effectively on a very low heeled horse.

I found equine fusion all terrain ultras forgiving for a low heeled horse.

But to use for turnout in wet conditions, you need 2 pairs and to dry and replace them every 24 hours or so.