If seller misleads buyer - is there anything that can be done

I assure you that I am not witholding information from you.. As I was a new customer to this vet, the certificate was sent, some time after the vetting to the yard for my attention. It was not witheld from me so no blame there. It was simply misrepresented. I did receive it, but after I bought the horse.

I have now learnt to be less trusting where horses are concerned as I am not the only person I know who has had problems when buying horses.
 
You will be amazed at how people are influenced by their yard owners into overpaying for horses, not getting horses vetted, being told sarcoids are bites, splints are little knocks, and all sorts of things. I have heard the most awful stories of people paying a third of the price of their horse in comission to their "friendly" yard owner without realising. This sounds like it could be true, and at the time, it all appears to be totally above board.

If your horse with sarcoids is a good performer, then he should still be worth a reasonable amount of money.
 
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Yikes!!! That's not what I meant!! I wasn't casting aspersions on your character - I'm not doing very well here am I? *runs off to cause trouble in another room*
 
Me. However, having read the posts I see clearly that I should let this go. At the end of the day I have been particularly foolish. I should have taken more control at the start. i won't be a victim again. I don't think that being called gullible is particularly harsh. After all I have paid over the odds for horses before and should have learnt before now.

Sharing this has been cathartic and thanks for taking the time to respond
 
not at all... sorry that came out wrong.. You are right, I am sure the yard owner has a totally different viewpoint..

The sold me another horse at about teh same time. This came over from Holland. He is lovely... A real honest lovely horse. They took no commission, or maybe 10k depending on whether you believe the guy in Holland who I know or the yard owners.. I didn't mind them taking a commission, but would expect them to be honest... After all it was 60% of the amount paid... and I could go on but I sense I am getting bitter and twisted again


Sorry all!!
 
when I lost my job, they kindly sold him on, and natuarally I made a substantial loss. Still they did manage to sell this one. One of the yard owners now competes him... They are doing really well. AQctually I am glad that he stayed on the yard as he is happy and relaxed there
 
I'm with FMM here. It is a salutary tale. Probably any action against the sellers wouldn't stand up in court, they are too clever for that.

They are the ones who provide a cast iron guarantee that if the horse doesn't suit they will have it back, but then when the buyer wants to return it the "haven't got any money as they have bought another horse" or "haven't got any room" the list is endless.

In your case, I can imagine that they "helpfully" told the vet that they would give you the certificate which they did in the end. Certainly the vet should have telephoned and discussed the vetting with you, the paying customer.

I have also heard good reports about the Liverpool cream.
 
Cor i am confused how many horses have you got/had
and how many horses did you buy from your old yard owner??
and sold and lost money on ?
and by the sounds of things these wernt first horses more competition horses (are you a novice??)

People do make money on horses, its there job/living.
however, they retention of a vet certificate is not acceptable.

I am still confused why - YOUR vet didnt contact you with regards to the scarciod?
 
Not sure about the politics of being misled etc.. however my horse has just returned from Liverpool Vet Hospital after having 'irridium implants' put in a sarcoid right on the edge of his eye lid (radiotherapy). We had tried the BCG injections - were advised against camrosa as it was so close to the eye - and this was the only option. However, the treatment is extremely expensive (around £4000) and I guess your boy wouldn't be insured for sarcoids after 2 years...

Anyway - it could be another treatment option!?
 
20K is a lot of money for a horse.

The vet should have sent you a copy of the report. They have failed to do so so you can also hold them liable. The vet was instructed by you and therefore should be providing you with the results of the vet's report. The vet's report is confidential and only for your eyes.

The yard owner has clearly committed a fraud.

I would instruct a specialist firm of equine solicitors and ask them what you should do.
 
I do feel for you, you have obviously been completely taken advantage of. Im not surprised you have been left feeling a bit bitter about the whole experience. In view of the sums involved it might be worth speaking to a solicitor, it may be that there is no case but at least you would know.

I feel for the next people/horses who encounter these people and really feel for your horse, I hope that he will end up somewhere suitable for him.
 
I would ring and speak to Trading Standards and see what they say - they are really helpful and will give you advice over the telephone and a reference number in case you want to take it further. My thoughts for what they are worth is that the seller is in the wrong for refusing to give you the certificate (although I would have insisted on speaking to the vet if this were the case)
 
I cant understand tho, that you asked for a vetting to be done (who wouldnt especially BEFORE parting with that sort of money) but you went ahead and paid the 20K before you even read the results, dosnt make sense, what was the point of having the vetting done in the first place?
 
If you can search the internet with the person you bought the horse froms details and can find that they sell 3 or more horses a year I believe they are classed as a dealer even if the sale was private, friends of mine recently bought a pony that turned into a lunatic after a couple of days it wasn't big money so they didn't get it vetted but because they have proved the person that sold it has sold more than 3 horses in the past year Trading Standards have taken it up, as the pony was not as described in the advert.

I am really not sure where you stand with your situation, it might be that you have to chalk it upto experience, best to speak to CAB.
 
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