If someone just says 'loose ring snaffle'..

gonebananas said:
When someone says "Loose ring snaffle" I automatically think of a single jointed bit with loose rings. Anything else would be described differently such as a loose ring french link, wouldn't it? :confused:
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No. A loose ring snaffle, is a loose ring snaffle. Why on Earth would anyone make assumptions about the mouthpiece being any type of snaffle when the information has not been given?

Why is it even an interesting question OP?
 
IMO, far too many people on here talk about 'loose-ring snaffles' without specifying the mouthpiece. In those instances, I usually assume they mean single-jointed and don't know enough to know that there are other snaffle mouth pieces.
 
bj666 said:
Yes , loose ring snaffle will be eggbutt mouthpiece and loose ring cheeks. Be aware , just incase you didnt know , a single joint when you use your reins will push downwards onto the tongue which will be uncomfortable and stop your horse from being able to swallow , so try to go for a frenchlink or mullen mouth so your horse can move his tongue and swallow .... happy horse !
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can you smell that? can you smell that?? god there is that awful smell oh i know what it is. it's BUL SH*IT.


p.s not meant horribly just came into my head so had to share it lol :D
 
VioletStripe said:
Friend has just bought a horse and asked which bit he goes in, loose ring snaffle. When pressed to answer what mouthpiece the person said 'Just a snaffle'.. so now trying to decipher what people would assume this as? xx
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it's funny how such a simple question turns into such a 'pilarva' on this forum :snort: lol lol :D
 
PapaFrita said:
This. I do wish people wouldn't just pull information out of their bottoms.
Snaffle bits have rings; the reins and cheek pieces move along the ring allowing the mouthpiece to sit comfortably in the mouth. Undeniably the action of a french link is gentler than that of a single-joint, but it's not because the joint 'pushes downwards' on the tongue. If anything, a single joint would dig into the roof of the mouth.
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Wrong ..... it can only hit the roof of the mouth if pulled from under the jaw ... ie when you are leading and reins over the head . An Xray proves it .
 
I've been on bitting courses ( through dentists , vets and bitting companies ) and you are shown how the bits effect the horses head , neck etc and what happens within their mouth on their tongue , lips , bars and palate etc. But Im not getting into an argument about this all Im offering advise which I have learnt from courses , training and experience .
 
bj666 said:
Yes , loose ring snaffle will be eggbutt mouthpiece and loose ring cheeks. Be aware , just incase you didnt know , a single joint when you use your reins will push downwards onto the tongue which will be uncomfortable and stop your horse from being able to swallow , so try to go for a frenchlink or mullen mouth so your horse can move his tongue and swallow .... happy horse !
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what is an eggbutt mouth piece? A loose ring and an eggbutt are two completely different bits. both snaffles yes but one is loose ring and the other is an eggbutt.

a single jointed is renowned(sp) for the nut cracker action. its sometimes recomended that you lay them over the side of your hand like imitating a horses tongue. i have had a go doing this and found it very interesting.
 
china said:
what is an eggbutt mouth piece? A loose ring and an eggbutt are two completely different bits. both snaffles yes but one is loose ring and the other is an eggbutt.

Yes , sorry I should of been clear ... I think of loose ring as a eggbutt mouth piece as opposed to a french link etc etc .
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china said:
what is an eggbutt mouth piece? A loose ring and an eggbutt are two completely different bits. both snaffles yes but one is loose ring and the other is an eggbutt.

a single jointed is renowned(sp) for the nut cracker action. its sometimes recomended that you lay them over the side of your hand like imitating a horses tongue. i have had a go doing this and found it very interesting.
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You beat me to it!
I was just going to ask about the eggbutt mouth piece!!!
 
Yes , sorry I should of been clear ... I think of loose ring as a eggbutt mouth piece as opposed to a french link etc etc .
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I do agree with you on one thing though! (preparing to be shot down!)
That the single jointed goes downwards onto the tongue! if you put the bit across your forearm at the angle the horses tongue would be at and then pull on it at the angle the reins would be at (or even better put reins on it and do it!) it can only point downwards while you are on top! You would have to have a bit far to big for the horse mouth to get enough angle on it whilst pulling for it to hit the roof of the mouth or like you say have the rein over the head and be pulling at a completely different angle!
 
bj666 I think you are getting confused about mouthpieces and joints on a bit.

This is a loose ring snaffle

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this is an eggbutt snaffle


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the eggbutt refers to the type/style of joint on the ring NOT what is in the horse's mouth, the eggbutt is smooth so will not pinch the horse's lips or mouth. The loose ring can pinch if you are unlucky so alot of people use rubber bit guards to stop this.
With a eggbutt joint you can use a smaller bit in the horse's mouth (1/4" protruding out either side of the mouth) where as a loose ring would need 1/2"
There is also a little more leverage with a loose ring than a eggbutt, hope this clears it up for you?
Oz
 
china said:
I do agree with you on one thing though! (preparing to be shot down!)
That the single jointed goes downwards onto the tongue! if you put the bit across your forearm at the angle the horses tongue would be at and then pull on it at the angle the reins would be at (or even better put reins on it and do it!) it can only point downwards while you are on top! You would have to have a bit far to big for the horse mouth to get enough angle on it whilst pulling for it to hit the roof of the mouth or like you say have the rein over the head and be pulling at a completely different angle!
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It largely depends on the horse's head carriage as to where the bit comes into play and on what part of the mouth.
 
Thank you , yes I know which is which , the joint I mean is the one inside your horses mouth .....this is getting confusing as to who means which joint and mouthpiece ! LOL.
Yes the top photo is a loose ring and the bottom an eggbutt ... the part inside the horses mouth .. when someone says a loose ring snaffle ... is usually the top photo with a single jointed and what most call eggbutt mouthpiece ( rather than a waterford , frenchlink etc etc ). My fault for not being very articulate when typing !!! :o)
 
No bj, the eggbutt is not the part that goes into the horse's mouth that is what I am trying to tell you.
It's the part that holds the ring that the reins and cheeks of the bridle attach to, don't know how else I can explain it!
IGNORE what is in the horse's mouth for a moment, THAT is not the eggbutt part of the bit!
Oz :)
 
VioletStripe said:
Friend has just bought a horse and asked which bit he goes in, loose ring snaffle. When pressed to answer what mouthpiece the person said 'Just a snaffle'.. so now trying to decipher what people would assume this as? xx
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I would assume it to be a single jointed bit with large loose rings, probably because as a kid that is the only bit we ever used on the ponies for general riding.
 
unicornleather said:
No bj, the eggbutt is not the part that goes into the horse's mouth that is what I am trying to tell you.
It's the part that holds the ring that the reins and cheeks of the bridle attach to, don't know how else I can explain it!
IGNORE what is in the horse's mouth for a moment, THAT is not the eggbutt part of the bit!
Oz :)
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I think you may be wasting your time here!

I also hope you got a refund on the bitting course, because the difference between an eggbutt and a loose ring is pretty simple.
 
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