If they banned bute, how wld ur horses cope?

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It's a far fetched scenario that many people have suggested as a possibility thanks to the ever worsening horse meat scandal, but if it ever happened, how would your horses cope? I know alot of horses are only given bute when injuries happen etc, but for me a sachet of danilon a night for the arthritic cob whilst currently stabled overnight is the difference between him walking out as fresh as a daisy or being grumpy and stiff. It helps him on a journey in the trailer, before and after long sponsored rides, on cold nights or when the ground is rock hard (not very often!!) If I couldn't use danilon, I'm not entirely sure how well I could manage his comfort especially if our winters turn fields into lakes and stabling is necessary.

Would a bute ban impact your horse's management and comfort?
 
Never touched it on mine. Last livery on it we moved horse to youngsters field on 24/7 turn out and was fine without.

So personally wouldn't make an odds.

I doubt it would really affect anyone... Drugs companies would have produced an alternative if it ever happened before the final ban came into place. And I doubt it would, would just be stricter about prescribed medication not being shared or fining people who do/it's not in passport.
 
I imagine a product to do same would have to be bought out. You couldn't not have pain relief meds for horses. That would be cruel imo And doubt it will be banned maybe the food processing plants etc just need to be better managed not the horse aspect.
 
PandorasJar said:
Never touched it on mine. Last livery on it we moved horse to youngsters field on 24/7 turn out and was fine without.

So personally wouldn't make an odds.

I doubt it would really affect anyone... Drugs companies would have produced an alternative if it ever happened before the final ban came into place. And I doubt it would, would just be stricter about prescribed medication not being shared or fining people who do/it's not in passport.
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Sorry, confused by this.

What do you mean the horse was 'fine without'? Fine without bute? What was the on bute for initially?:confused:
 
Just as I rely on the odd paracetamal - then my horses rely on the odd sachet of bute.
For me, it is not about masking pain (in both examples) but helping. I have had horses that have tweaked tendons etc. and need a pain killer to help them relax a bit - and ditto me if I have really bad tooth ache or a bad back - it just keeps me together a bit until I can get proper treatment. Similar the horse. Withdrawal periods of bute and other drugs are exacting before they can race - and anything that hs a positive result will be penalised - as it should be - I have no idea how long Bute stays in the system - but i am guessing it is not that long? I have horses who have had operations that have had their passports overstamped as 'not for human consumption' but that does not seem to apply to Bute......more guidance would of course be useful - but lets not hope for a knee jerk reaction to the horse meat scandle.
 
Moomin. Was an arthritic horse on daily Bute.
Then got turned out 24/7 with youngsters. Being kept out and moving more the stiffness went, aside from the odd day if it was wet for a few days in a row, and Bute was not necessary.

DK as far as I'm aware a horse should not enter the food chain if its ever had Bute.
 
My old guy (27) is on a low dose of danilon. He's not lame as such getting around, but he struggles at the far extremes of bending his joints. The danilon helps him get up after rolling, and it helps him with farrier visits. It has already extended his life by a couple of years and I would have to ask myself serious questions about his ongoing future if he couldn't have it for whatever reason :(
 
I think it shouldn't be banned, just because some abattoir/ horse meat farmer/ supermarket can't organise themselves properly. The last time I used bute was on a horse that got hit by a car out hacking, and obviously was in a bit of pain. I don't think it is fair that I am not allowed to medicate my horse because on the off-chance some sleeze-ball might want to make a cheap lasagne.
 
None of mine are on it permanently but I do use it when they go lame or have abscesses etc. There would have to be an alternative as it would me cruel IMO to not be able to give horses pain relief when they need it. Don't think it will come to that though.
 
They'd do what my beta have said, I'd at an emergency cannot produce your passport which is signed to say the horse is not for human consumption, your horse will be given a different pain reprice drug. So there's obviously already one on the market. So I wouldn't worry.
 
EstherYoung said:
My old guy (27) is on a low dose of danilon. He's not lame as such getting around, but he struggles at the far extremes of bending his joints. The danilon helps him get up after rolling, and it helps him with farrier visits. It has already extended his life by a couple of years and I would have to ask myself serious questions about his ongoing future if he couldn't have it for whatever reason :(
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This^^ exactly - the same for my 27 year old
 
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