If you can't afford £100 tax, should you really have horses?

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Feeding horses is a luxury. Feeding yourself and your family is not.

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Well it bl**dy should be. Breed as many kids as you like, and the horse owners can pay to fund their "human rights" with the money they've earned while the breeders are on maternity leave (funded by us!). Peevs me right off, want babies and you get handouts left right and centre, try to earn and spend your own wages on what you want, and you get taxed three times!
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Ummm...totally off topic here....I have 2 children. I have never been given any money...certainly not left , right OR centre. I think you will find that to be on maternity leave you have to have a job to be on leave from....which implies that you pay taxes too.....maternity pay is crap and lasts only a few weeks...I was on unpaid leave for a year each time and used savings to pay the mortgage and bills.

I think you are referring to the 'stay at home lets have kids for the benefits' brigade....which pees me no end too.

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Ummm child benefit????

Everyone gets child benefit per child irrespective of income.
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What we need is a stupidity tax, charge everyone who voted in these labour tossers £100.

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I'll vote for this. Can we increase it 10-fold for the extra-stupids?
 
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Acouple of points
1) dont you think this could be a ploy by defra about the £100 so when they come back and say oh no it
will be £20 we will all be so glad we will pay up without fuss
2) as with all taxes this will probable go up every year

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yes agree I also think this is more of a job creation thing by and for lefties that carn't do anything usefull that would help the economy IE manufacture and export something
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will also most likely cost as much as it raises
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The whole idea of this so-called horse tax is to fund disease prevention (and the costs of cleaning up when prevention fails through NO fault of the horse owner!) The Government is responsible for the passport fiasco - and it is responsible for border controls - but in the past two weeks I have seen two horses' passports - horses which were imported in the past 5 years - and neither had ANYTHING on their passport to indicate they had ANY health checks on entry!

As a breeder, I currently have 58 horses - and by the time the tax comes in it may be over 60. That's £6,000!! On top of that there's the extra cost of micro-chipping a dozen foals a year from this year. And from next year the cost of DNA testing a dozen foals a year will go up by £25 a year per foal as a breed society subsidy is ending. SO - an extra £150 on every foal - and on geldings we're lucky to break even anyway!

And if the Government's ineptitude and incompetence leads to some exotic disease entering the country, resulting in my stock having to be destroyed (a la F&M) there will be NO compensation! And of course there is talk of making insurance compulsory too. I currently only have Public Liability and Employer Liability - no WAY am I making an insurance company fat by comprehensively insuring 60-odd horses!!
 
Ok so I haven't read everyone else's replies, so if what i'm about to say upsets anyone then i'm sorry, to the original question, No I can't afford to pay £100 to the the bloody goverment who are responsible for passing laws even if the money actually goes to defra, Nobody on this earth has the right to say to me i shouldnt have my horse because i cant pay that money, If Buzz needed the vet then something would be delt with, But i'm not going to beg borrow or Fducking steal to pay frigging tax on my horse when I already pay car tax, Motor bike tax National insureance and tax off my wages like everyone else, And your all very welcome to sit in judgement beacause i havn't got £100 sitting around to spend on Bollocks like this, if you dont like it then tuff.
 
Rough comparisons

£100 buys a trailer load of hay--2 months for my pair so for both taxed the £200 is most of my winter needs
£100 will buy bedding for one of mine for winter
£100 will buy 2 cheap NZ rugs
£100 approx pays routine vaccinations for my pair plus teeth rasp by vet
Need I go on

For a sanctuary with 50-60 horses this is a death sentence as every ''stray'' they take in has to be microchipped and passported first before they start on teeth, farrier, worms vaccination

Think we should fight this
 
I've only skimmed through this post so apologies if I'm repeating anything...but the proposed £100 will go towards a mass destruction of all our horses (think foot and mouth) if the African horse sickness takes hold in this country. If the government are already proposing this tax they are as good as admitting that this disease WILL enter the UK. If the money were to go towards the development, manufacture and distribution of a vaccine I would be happy to pay it, but I sure as hell am not paying into the government coffers for some faceless vet in a white plastic suit to come and destroy my horses.

Just read the post before mine, Janetgeorge I agree with everything you've just said!!
 
Why the hell do we have passports then?!
It cost £30-£50 to have a horse passported, so is it a waste of time???
Bugger the taxes.

I shall be a tax dodger if they bring that law out!
 
Everyone woman gets child Benefit and most get tax credits.
I have 3 kids and am a stay at home mom BUT DO NOT CLAIM BENEFITS as my hubby works.
I own a horse and have a pony on loan.I think this tax is ludicrous.Good points eveyone!!
 
To me, this Horse Tax will not benefit me or my horses at all.

It will not pay for vet treatment if my horse has an infectious disease, it will not pay my excess if any have an injury.

It is just 'money for old rope' to the government under the pretence of managing infectious diseases.

But 'managing' how exactly?

Knowing where all the horses live and who owns them so it can arrange shooting them all and burning them on a pyre aka Foot & Mouth? - To stop the spread of disease.... will be the pretext.

And by the way, you'll have to pay a Carbon Footprint tax, disposal tax, and admin fee.

And so it goes on......
 
Most people tend to have insurance for unforeseen stuff like vet's bills. I personally will not be paying this tax as it's yet another way for the greedy, grabbing labour government to milk money out of us. And how come the tax is £3 ish for a sheep, £5 ish for a cow and £100 for a horse????? Big leap from the original £10.50 isn't it??????
You just wait for them to come knocking on my door for the general election.........
 
Like everything else this useless government have done since being in power....it's just a bloody joke. Unless you live in the top of a 14 storey tower block on a deprived council estate in the worst area of an over crowded city, then Labour will never, ever be of any help to you what do ever.

They despise people who live in the country or make a living from it and that's probaly never going to change. Luckily though they'll be out in the next election so this will all become fictional botty wipe.
 
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They despise people who live in the country or make a living from it and that's probaly never going to change. Luckily though they'll be out in the next election so this will all become fictional botty wipe.

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I think they WILL be out at the next election - but don't assume the problem is going away without a LOT of work! The Tories are apparently committed to the 'disease cost-sharing' commitment - at least where farming is concerned. Plans for the new animal health quango will be quite advanced by the time the next election comes.

NOW is the time to write to the relevent Tory MPs - in particular your local Tory MP/Tory candidate and ask him where he stands. It would also be worth writing to Nick Herbert, the Shadow spokesman for Defra.
 
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They despise people who live in the country or make a living from it and that's probaly never going to change. Luckily though they'll be out in the next election so this will all become fictional botty wipe.

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I think they WILL be out at the next election - but don't assume the problem is going away without a LOT of work! The Tories are apparently committed to the 'disease cost-sharing' commitment - at least where farming is concerned. Plans for the new animal health quango will be quite advanced by the time the next election comes.

NOW is the time to write to the relevent Tory MPs - in particular your local Tory MP/Tory candidate and ask him where he stands. It would also be worth writing to Nick Herbert, the Shadow spokesman for Defra.

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Sadly I have to agree and would add, how poor and weak the torys seem to be on so many issues such as Europe and the climate change scam... they seem to be little different to the current admin
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.. whoever coined the name "Blue labour" sadly seems right on the money, god help us!!! poor old britain
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if AHS does make it to the UK thens its quite likely that a widespread cull like in foot and mouth will not happen...

yes infected horses will most likely be culled to prevent the transmission but the widespread precautionary culling may not happen.
its more likely that vaccination will be applied instead....

why?its cheaper and the prevention of movement of horses in and out of the uk for 2 years wont have as big of an economic impact as the prevention of food animal movement.

The reason there were such culls for the Foot and mouth outbreak was to control the disease and get back on the foreign markets as quick as possible..
even now there is talk of widescale vaccination if bluetongue continues to spread not of culling because the cost benifit analyis says culling is to expensive......
i do think the idea of horse tax is madness tho...the owners will still probly hav to pay for vaccines
 
I am going to write to my local MP who is Tory.

I bet you though, he won't have a clue what I'm talking about, and will hedge around the question and give me a politicians balls answer.
 
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