If you have a horse on loan please check him or this may happen

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Perhaps its time for sample loan contracts to include the clause that the loanee should send a weekly video and photo's of the horse. In these days were people carry a phone in their pocket, it would only take a few moments.
 
I don't quite understand the writing at the bottom of the poster - were horse welfare organisations aware but refused to help?

If so I'm even more confused, as that is a seriously emaciated horse, but I have seen pictures of a very recent rescue operation where the horses weren't nearly as bad.
So why do they stand by and watch horses die in some cases, but seize others that are a long way from danger in others..?
 
LittleBlackMule said:
I don't quite understand the writing at the bottom of the poster - were horse welfare organisations aware but refused to help?

If so I'm even more confused, as that is a seriously emaciated horse, but I have seen pictures of a very recent rescue operation where the horses weren't nearly as bad.
So why do they stand by and watch horses die in some cases, but seize others that are a long way from danger in others..?
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Yes a well known animal welfare officer attended but the horse was not down so they refused to help
 
horserider said:
Perhaps its time for sample loan contracts to include the clause that the loanee should send a weekly video and photo's of the horse. In these days were people carry a phone in their pocket, it would only take a few moments.
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Completely agree with this. Alongside the owner checking on the horse regularly, a weekly photo being sent is so quick and easy, and if anything is amiss it can be dealt with before it goes too far. That poor horse.
 
But that won't stop them taking loads of vids and photos in the first few days and then sending them weekly? unless you were there in person, you would not know they were taken on the dates that are stated.

My Horse will be advertised for full loan soon, but I will be checking on her atleast once every 2 weeks. I am planning on going travelling in Sept, so a close trusted friend will be watching over her for me.
 
I had a horse on loan for 2 years and not once did the owner come and check on him. She met me twice and then I took her horse away.

Of course, I treated him as my own and loved him dearly, but I will never understand why she didn't want to come and see him.
 
Spring Feather said:
I have a hard time understanding owners who put their horses on loan and don't check on them at least once a week tbqh.
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I agree once a week is sensible to start with but if a loan goes on 4/5 years I'm not sure it's wholly practical.
I cut down to 2 weekly after a month, then monthly after 3 months, now every few months (he's been with the same lady for 18 months).
I also know other people who know her and they talk to both of us (the horse world is small) so if I heard anything on the grapevine I didn't like (or saw anything on a visit I didn't like, I'd start going more regularly again)
The large national charity I loan from only comes every six months.
 
simple.... get the loaner to take a photo of the horse with that days newspaper next to it ! even it you can see the date you can check the story is up to date !
 
That horse has been advertised as missing on loan for some time - two years perhaps? - so it is not the owners fault but the person who let him get into this state should be pursued.
I do hope this boy is safe now.
 
LaurenBay said:
But that won't stop them taking loads of vids and photos in the first few days and then sending them weekly? unless you were there in person, you would not know they were taken on the dates that are stated. QUOTE]

If you felt you couldn't trust the loaner, then you could ask them to show todays paper in the photo, also looking at the background should give you an idea of when the photo was taken i.e. is there grass in the field/leaves on trees etc. I still think a weekly photo PLUS regular checks would be a good way of lessening any problems that may occur.
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Makes me want to cry.
I had a horse on loan and he was looked after like he was gold. I loved him to bits and was heartbroken when he died. Can't understand people treating them so badly.
 
s4sugar said:
That horse has been advertised as missing on loan for some time - two years perhaps? - so it is not the owners fault but the person who let him get into this state should be pursued.
I do hope this boy is safe now.
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It was not the owners fault but the person who had him on loan, the lady who rescued him is in contact with the owner now and hopefully there will be a happy ending for the owner and new loaner. Yes the person who let him get in this state needs pursuing.
 
It's dreadfully sad and I see the horse is an LOU. It does bring home that pts is not the worst that can happen if you cannot keep your horse, which is maybe only field sound.
 
Im a loanee. I dont send weekly updates but I have his owner on Facebook etc and any time I upload photos shes tagged in them and I text her any time theres something exciting to share (Im backing him atm). I've got my own plus another Im looking after. Id be horrified if any in my care looked like that.
 
CobsGalore said:
I had a horse on loan for 2 years and not once did the owner come and check on him. She met me twice and then I took her horse away.

Of course, I treated him as my own and loved him dearly, but I will never understand why she didn't want to come and see him.
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I have a horse on loan and the owner met me twice after a few emails were exchanged. The 2nd time was when i went to collect her.

Its been a good few weeks since I have heard from her and to be honest I have kind of given up sending weekly updates and getting no response!

Like you she is treated as my own and I adore her and of course she has nothing to worry about but I did think she would have atleast visited within the last three months! I know I would have :confused:
 
Very sad, I have a little pony on loan and make sure I upload at least weekly pictures to facebook, that way no one has to ask. I do text her if we've done something vaguely interesting but running out of things to say now! I think you can tell from the ground conditions and what the weather is like whether it is taken recently or not. I do feel quite paranoid about making sure the owner knows I am totally open to questions and visits etc! They don't live far away and my land is on a footpath so I said to her and her friends they are most welcome to swing by!
 
My big horse is technically on loan to me, although the owner did write to me to make sure I understood she never wanted him back (totally fine by me I'd never give him up). He was here 3 months before she met me or visited him. In 4 1/2 years she's seen him here twice and once when we were at a competition she was at. I write a few times a year (don't have her e-mail) with photos, she does send me a Christmas card.
I genuinely think of him as mine now.

I can't understand the mentality of 'well he doesn't belong to me so I won't feed/rug/call vet/ have farrier/ worm etc. etc. I treat things I've borrowed not matter how small (pair of shoes, etc.) with more care than I treat my own stuff as it's not mine! But then I am very old fashioned sometimes !
 
Polos Mum said:
My big horse is technically on loan to me, although the owner did write to me to make sure I understood she never wanted him back (totally fine by me I'd never give him up). He was here 3 months before she met me or visited him. In 4 1/2 years she's seen him here twice and once when we were at a competition she was at. I write a few times a year (don't have her e-mail) with photos, she does send me a Christmas card.
I genuinely think of him as mine now.

I can't understand the mentality of 'well he doesn't belong to me so I won't feed/rug/call vet/ have farrier/ worm etc. etc. I treat things I've borrowed not matter how small (pair of shoes, etc.) with more care than I treat my own stuff as it's not mine! But then I am very old fashioned sometimes !
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Would these bad loanees treat owned horses differently? Can imagine any horse they have will 'go wanting'.
 
Actually in my case the owner is a professional owner with lots of horses competing at top level (and I imagine pays a huge amount for them to be in competition livery with a pro), once they pass their best they just don't interst her.
She could have them all PTS (which is what I'm sure she'd do with mine if I sent him back) but very luckily for me if someone is in the right place at the right time - off you go with a 14 yo 4* event horse !!!

I'm sure your right usually, if they can't be bothered to write a proper contract or check on the horse on loan, they probably weren't an ideal owner to start with!
 
I loaned out one of my girls last summer. Then moved for work purposes so now live 250 miles away. Her loaner and I communicate via email, FB, text and forums regularly. My Mum pops in maybe once a month for me. I get photos maybe once a month. When I'm back, I make sure I pop in as well. I know my girl is being loved and cared for with the same level she would get with me and that's all that matters.
 
OMG - that poor poor horse :(

I honestly cannot see why a welfare officer would just walk away :confused:

I also cannot for the life of me understand why someone loaning your horse would treat it so badly - Im neurotic enough with mine (owned by me), if it was someone elses horse being loaned to me Id probably be worse :o

This has honestly disgusts me how a supposed horse lover (loanee) and welfare officer can think this is even midly acceptable :mad::mad:

I hope loanee gets her comeuppence and horse is safe now, making a good recovery :(
 
Spring Feather said:
I have a hard time understanding owners who put their horses on loan and don't check on them at least once a week tbqh.
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My horse went on loan to the other end of the country from me, how the heck was I supposed to make a near 500mile trip weekly? Talk sense please.

I was in contact with the loaner who updated me on FB about him and her antics. Hes back with me now and he came back in the perfect condition I sent him to her in :)

Yes he is still your horse BUT this is why you must have an iron clad contract and i did. Everything that happened after i drove my trailer off the yard was up to her to sort out illness injury etc.
 
Some people put horses out on loan to good homes at least that is what they are led to believe, not all can visit for their own reasons, so yes would like to see video of horse at least on a monthly viewing with some form of identification of date like newspaper written as said into contract, if you do not get a video or picture then go and check or send someone you trust to check horse for you.
 
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