jumpthemoon
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How would you view your facilities, for example the manege?
If you were a YO (or if you are a YO)...
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Eira
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Third option .
This is infact the system we have at the yard
Luckily only about 3 people use the school so its always free anyway
This is infact the system we have at the yard
Luckily only about 3 people use the school so its always free anyway
TS_
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Can people not just share the menege? At my yard we just use the menege when we want, so we've had 5 (possibly more) in it before without any problems.
However if you couldn't share it then I suppose I'd have a booking system to make it fair.
However if you couldn't share it then I suppose I'd have a booking system to make it fair.
clairefeekerry1
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we have two schools and a jumping paddock thing so there's always plenty of options for everyone, we tend just to share
jumpthemoon
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I think I would do it like that as well - the problem at our yard is that everyone wants the school at the same time, even though we all turn up at different times! I tend to try and ride in the mornings so I can stay out of everyones way.
YO gets frustrated as she works until quite late, then gets home and people who get to the yard 3 hours before her are using the school when she wants to ride! I think it would work better if everyone had to book to use the school. There aren't even that many of us that use it, so you wouldn't think it would be so hard!
YO gets frustrated as she works until quite late, then gets home and people who get to the yard 3 hours before her are using the school when she wants to ride! I think it would work better if everyone had to book to use the school. There aren't even that many of us that use it, so you wouldn't think it would be so hard!
Shazzababs
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I'd go for share, but have a booking system if you needed it for exclusive use i.e. You had a lesson.
Depends on the size of the yard though.
Several yards I have been at charge for the priviledge of having an exclusive booking.
Depends on the size of the yard though.
Several yards I have been at charge for the priviledge of having an exclusive booking.
bugaboo
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Liveries have to come first IMO,but i have never worked on or stabled at a yard where you have to book in to just school.If we had booked a lesson and our trainer is coming over then we can book the school so nobody can come in.
Every yard i have been on we could have up to 5/8 people in an arena at once without a problem,if people stick to the arena rules and keep a sensible distance from each other then its fine.
Every yard i have been on we could have up to 5/8 people in an arena at once without a problem,if people stick to the arena rules and keep a sensible distance from each other then its fine.
Vicki_Krystal
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At a yard i was at we had a booking system - but the yard owner had the school everyday from 10am til 1.30pm.
It worked ok because it meant the the liveries could book the school before and after work.
It worked ok because it meant the the liveries could book the school before and after work.
BFG
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The only time we book the school is for lessons. I was on a yard with a booking in system you could have 30mins with 2 sharing and you had to be on the yard to book it.
It was a pain in the neck, if your horse was having a bad day you would still be kicked out after your half and hour and you could arrive at 4.30pm and not get in the school till 8.00pm useless.
It was a pain in the neck, if your horse was having a bad day you would still be kicked out after your half and hour and you could arrive at 4.30pm and not get in the school till 8.00pm useless.
jumpthemoon
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Can people not just share the menege? At my yard we just use the menege when we want, so we've had 5 (possibly more) in it before without any problems.
However if you couldn't share it then I suppose I'd have a booking system to make it fair.
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We can share, but it gets difficult as it's only 20x40 and we have
- lady who does dressage, who has a big horse and tends to use a lot of room up
- YO likes to lunge so it's difficult to ride in there when she's lungeing as she doesn't like you going round the outside of her
- young girl who gets nervous when other people are in there
- girl who has a naughty pony that naps/backs up etc
I don't mind sharing when I'm doing flatwork, but if I want to jump I have to wait until everyone else has used the school. Everyone also gets priority over me because I want to jump, so if I am waiting for the school and someone else turns up and wants to ride, I tend to have to wait for them as well.
Maybe I should suggest a booking system
Can people not just share the menege? At my yard we just use the menege when we want, so we've had 5 (possibly more) in it before without any problems.
However if you couldn't share it then I suppose I'd have a booking system to make it fair.
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We can share, but it gets difficult as it's only 20x40 and we have
- lady who does dressage, who has a big horse and tends to use a lot of room up
- YO likes to lunge so it's difficult to ride in there when she's lungeing as she doesn't like you going round the outside of her
- young girl who gets nervous when other people are in there
- girl who has a naughty pony that naps/backs up etc
I don't mind sharing when I'm doing flatwork, but if I want to jump I have to wait until everyone else has used the school. Everyone also gets priority over me because I want to jump, so if I am waiting for the school and someone else turns up and wants to ride, I tend to have to wait for them as well.
Maybe I should suggest a booking system
bugaboo
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20 x 40 is the standard arena size of yards and as i said we have always managed.
I dotn see the problem myself personally,if there are a few of you wanting to jump on a certain day can you not do a course together.
Alot more people cram into a warm up arena with less space and manage fine.
I dotn see the problem myself personally,if there are a few of you wanting to jump on a certain day can you not do a course together.
Alot more people cram into a warm up arena with less space and manage fine.
E_Lister
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I have never been at a yard with it's own school (due to being unable to drive so getting there had to involve a distance I could walk or cycle easily) However all the yards that I have visited have different systems.
The best system I saw was where there was a white board divided into hours slots for every day of the week, you then wrote in which time and day you wanted to use the school, what you were doing (briefly eg: flatwork, lesson, jumping) and if you were happy for others to be in the school with you. However the yard was very friendly and there were no large rifts so nobody ever felt like they were always getting the worst placements due to a yard bully, otherwise I could see flaws in that plan.
The best system I saw was where there was a white board divided into hours slots for every day of the week, you then wrote in which time and day you wanted to use the school, what you were doing (briefly eg: flatwork, lesson, jumping) and if you were happy for others to be in the school with you. However the yard was very friendly and there were no large rifts so nobody ever felt like they were always getting the worst placements due to a yard bully, otherwise I could see flaws in that plan.
diggerbez
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on my old yard we had 20x60 and had to book for lessons or jumping- apart from that was a free for all. had lots of arguments as turned out YM and her pals were booking school just to school on their own. new yard has 20x40 and you have to book everytime you want to use it- can be a pain as some people insist on booking to same slot every night for 2 months in advance and then cancelling at the last minute but is good as you know when you are riding and that you have the place to yourself. the booking is in half hour slots but if having a lesson or jumping you can book longer
jumpthemoon
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20 x 40 is the standard arena size of yards and as i said we have always managed.
I dotn see the problem myself personally,if there are a few of you wanting to jump on a certain day can you not do a course together.
Alot more people cram into a warm up arena with less space and manage fine.
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I'm the only one on the yard that jumps - I don't think it's fair to be jumping in a 20x40 when people are trying to do flatwork so I wait. I also don't mind doing flatwork when other people are in there - I'm happy to share - but YO gets frustrated as she like to have the school to herself but when she gets back from work people tend to be using it.
20 x 40 is the standard arena size of yards and as i said we have always managed.
I dotn see the problem myself personally,if there are a few of you wanting to jump on a certain day can you not do a course together.
Alot more people cram into a warm up arena with less space and manage fine.
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I'm the only one on the yard that jumps - I don't think it's fair to be jumping in a 20x40 when people are trying to do flatwork so I wait. I also don't mind doing flatwork when other people are in there - I'm happy to share - but YO gets frustrated as she like to have the school to herself but when she gets back from work people tend to be using it.
bugaboo
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Ah right i see in that case jumping wise i can see why you want arena to yourself,although should you have an accident it would be wise to have someone else in the arena if its not easily visable from yard if you catch my drift.
As for YO well she is either going to have to work out a system or stop complaining her liveries come first.
As for YO well she is either going to have to work out a system or stop complaining her liveries come first.
MardyMare
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This was one of the worries when I moved to my current yard as it has lots of liveries and there is only one school - although it is quite big and so far I have never had to share it with more than 2 other people so we all seem to fit in together. The rule is no outside instructors (which at first I thought odd but now totally agree with) and everyone just shares - just check with however is in first that its ok to join them. Luckily the jumps that are provided are a bit rubbish so even those that do jump can only manage a couple of jumps and they dont seem to get in the way.
Coffee_Bean
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I put other. We don't book the school, but there is a board in the yard where the YO writes down when she is teaching- we can't go in when there is a lesson on, but the lesson times are written on the board so we know in advance. If the YO is just schooling we are allowed to go in too, otherwise, we just go in when we want. It works out really well for me at the moment, because there are usually no lessons in the morning, so the school is always free before about 1 and after about 5.30, which is when i get there after school. It's also not used on sundays
So yeh we do share sometimes, but it works well
miss_c
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We have a booking system if you have a lesson etc, but generally we tend to share, but if someone's in there you always ask if it's ok to come in. If I'm going to lunge at a certain time because I'm very short of time I'll book the school but say that I'm willing to share, but also advise that I am lunging. Our YO doesn't ride anyway, so that's not an issue!
Hullabaloo
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Our yard just does first come, first served, or you can share. We only book for lessons. Mind you there are only 7 of us, including the YO and we all tend to ride at different times so its never an issue.
Sarah Sum1
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If any of you are in the school and someone asks if it's ok to come in, would you rather they didn't? and are just being polite?
AmyMay
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I used to livery on quite a big yard. The only booking system for the school was when a lesson was going to take place.
Other than that there was never any problem with people sharing the school.
I can understand your YO's frustration. But when you're running a business you can't put your needs first (I would say, in this particular situation).
And as an aside - I just have to say again how beautiful your horse is Jumpthemoon!
Other than that there was never any problem with people sharing the school.
I can understand your YO's frustration. But when you're running a business you can't put your needs first (I would say, in this particular situation).
And as an aside - I just have to say again how beautiful your horse is Jumpthemoon!
Hullabaloo
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Personally I'm more than happy to share, although I do understand that other people may prefer to have the school to themselves and try to respect that and not ask them.
Ranyhyn
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We have a booking system and YM books like the rest of us, has always worked and is very fair.
Kenzo
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Booking system which includes the YO, why should the YO get special treatment, they should lead by example to their clients, one rule for all, other wise their in the wrong business if their complaining that they have to book and liveries come 2nd class to them.
As for sharing, not everyone wants to share and why should they? sometimes you need a the school to yourself and its not selfish in doing so neither, some horses may be in training and don't need the distractions of other riders, if you don't mind sharing and you can, then that's great.
Flame_
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I picked 2, the YO should accommodate the liveries, but I was assuming the yard was their job and that they could ride in the day. If I was your YO I'd make a polite request for the people who get there first to get on and ride first so the school is free for people who get there later, including them.
But, lunging bugs me and I think people lunging should always fit around people riding. Its very restricting to share a school with anyone lunging. I also don't like booking systems, they're a bit too formal for my tastes, but without one everyone does need to be as considerate as possible.
But, lunging bugs me and I think people lunging should always fit around people riding. Its very restricting to share a school with anyone lunging. I also don't like booking systems, they're a bit too formal for my tastes, but without one everyone does need to be as considerate as possible.
Eye_Spy
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Everyone shares the indoor and are quite happy to ride together. But if having a lesson book school in advance (which is the idea at our yard but rarely happens)
Sparklet
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YO gets frustrated as she works until quite late, then gets home and people who get to the yard 3 hours before her are using the school when she wants to ride!
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Why dont the people that get there three hours earlier ride as they get there rather than waiting three hours.
This used to bug me to be honest.....we have a max of two allowed in the menage at any one time. It used to annoy me that people who didnt work would potter about all day deciding to ride at peak times when they had all day to do so. The restriction on numbers in the menage meant that those leaving work sometimes had to wait until quite late in the evening to be able to ride.
Surely its about compromise and being sensible and if I were your YO I would ask those that had been there for three hours to crack on and ride if they want to as they get there
YO gets frustrated as she works until quite late, then gets home and people who get to the yard 3 hours before her are using the school when she wants to ride!
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Why dont the people that get there three hours earlier ride as they get there rather than waiting three hours.
This used to bug me to be honest.....we have a max of two allowed in the menage at any one time. It used to annoy me that people who didnt work would potter about all day deciding to ride at peak times when they had all day to do so. The restriction on numbers in the menage meant that those leaving work sometimes had to wait until quite late in the evening to be able to ride.
Surely its about compromise and being sensible and if I were your YO I would ask those that had been there for three hours to crack on and ride if they want to as they get there
WeeBrown
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I have been on 3 yards. At the first one there was no booking system and people who had lessons in menege got priority over those who were not having lessons. Was a nightmare and I often got on my horse only to be told 15 mins later that I needed to get out of menege as a lesson was due to start - there was no board or even piece of paper to show when lessons were and bad weather would mean a lesson was cancelled only for it to be rearranged to another time which I hadn't been informed about.
2nd yard had a booking system - you paid £5 if you booked the menege so most people only booked it for lessons but as it was in a diary it was easy to see when people were using the menege, plus you had to book at least 24 hours in advance.
Yard I'm at now you can book if you want or if it is not booked you can just go in. Either way, every time you use the menege it is £1 for 1/2 and we have 2 meneges (indoor and out). People can share menege and as it is a very friendly yard some even have lessons together. I usually book for an hour even if I use it for only 35 - 40, then if I am working on an issue I don't feel rushed. If I'm early I just go find the person next on the list to let them know I'm done earlier. Seems to work for us. It's a big yard but we all ride at different times and some just hack. Yard owner uses it around the livery bookings but can book own slots if she wants and as far as I know most of us (inc YO) has lessons with our horses on the yard as well as off it to cover different disciplines.
2nd yard had a booking system - you paid £5 if you booked the menege so most people only booked it for lessons but as it was in a diary it was easy to see when people were using the menege, plus you had to book at least 24 hours in advance.
Yard I'm at now you can book if you want or if it is not booked you can just go in. Either way, every time you use the menege it is £1 for 1/2 and we have 2 meneges (indoor and out). People can share menege and as it is a very friendly yard some even have lessons together. I usually book for an hour even if I use it for only 35 - 40, then if I am working on an issue I don't feel rushed. If I'm early I just go find the person next on the list to let them know I'm done earlier. Seems to work for us. It's a big yard but we all ride at different times and some just hack. Yard owner uses it around the livery bookings but can book own slots if she wants and as far as I know most of us (inc YO) has lessons with our horses on the yard as well as off it to cover different disciplines.