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and the buyer couldn't pick it up for a week or so, would you charge livery while it was still in your care?

Equally if you were the buyer how would you feel about being charged livery (commencing as soon as the vetting had been done?)
 
No as long as they have paid for the horse. When I got my mare she was quite a distance away so I decided I wanted a pro transporter rather than use the trailer...had to wait a week but that was fine cos I had paid for her and they new the lorry space was booked.
 
When I bought my horse she stayed at the dealers yard for just under a week (after passing the vetting) to give me time to finalise livery. I was not charged for this.
 
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Vetting tomorrow Sprout :D. Just got a text saying 'obviously will need to charge livery until you get back from holiday'. Bit miffed and judging by the answers so far am right to be!

Ho hum, not worth making a fuss about I suppose. She said £10/day grass livery & she will exercise him too so it's not a lot, would cost me more than that in services if I brought him home immediately.
 
I would be miffed and "obviously" wouldnt be paying for it until it was collected. Why should they get the interest from the money rather than you. Yes I would pay a retaining deposit but not full balance until day of collection.

If its a professional seller I could understand. If its a private seller I think its a cheek and they should be happy to have a sale at all! Most transporters take a few days to organise so they need to be practical. Sounds like they know you are on holiday though so maybe using this as an excuse?

NB I would also look carefully into insurance - when does the horse become yours? When the money changes hand or deposit? What happens if something happens to the horse during the week - who owns it/who insures it (this has a bearing on my exchange of money point!)
 
We kept a pony for 2 weeks after the vetting, new owner was going on holiday. I had full payment and the pony was insured by the new owner. Didn't charge any livery though.
 
Thanks idx, cross-posted. Yes she's a professional seller & does know I'm on holiday, I was straight with her as I didn't want to move him & then bugger off on holiday!

As I'm on holiday she asked me to pay before I go, which sounds dodgy but isn't, so I'd already considered about starting insurance as soon as he was paid for.
 
Got my boy from a dealer a few months back – he had to stay with them for 10 days after his vetting before I could bring him home. Dealer said that if I wanted him schooled during the 10 days then she would need to charge schooling livery (fair enough!), but she would happily chuck him out in the field for 10 days with no charge as long as I gave her a deposit. Have to say that I would not have paid for grass livery if she had wanted to charge for it – either they want the sale or they don’t and charging for a few days grass livery on top of the sale would be taking the **** :eek:

In my case final payment was only made when I collected him, not before, the vetting and the deposit was enough to convince her that I was serious about the purchase.
 
That's where I was coming from, I am annoyed but didn't know how to approach it with her. Not a deal-breaker though & as I said, it's cheaper than having him at my yard & at least he will be exercised too.
 
Going against the grain a bit here but in your shoes, I'd rather have him at your yard, even if it costs you than leave him with her and her charge you on top of the sale price if that makes sense. I think she's being a greedy tart to charge you livery when she knows the date he will be collected. If it was going to be much longer than a fortnight I can see the point of her asking £50 towards his keep/her time but anything more is taking the proverbial so I wouldn't want to line her tight fisted pockets.
 
I agree with you Maesfen, however I am reluctant to move him & him not settle & have to go off on hols with him possibly being an arse. Did consider this - thought I might take the lorry over with me tomorrow so if he passes I could just hand over the cash & load him up!
 
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I agree with you Maesfen, however I am reluctant to move him & him not settle & have to go off on hols with him possibly being an arse. Did consider this - thought I might take the lorry over with me tomorrow so if he passes I could just hand over the cash & load him up!
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I'd do this. ^

I quite agree with Maesfen.

If I was selling then I would be happy to take a respectable deposit and hold the horse for a week or so, then take the balance when he was collected.

Anything over a fortnight and then I feel it would be reasonable to charge board especially at this time of year when many are already feeding hay.
 
I wouldn't want her exercising him-it's very easy to be less careful with someone elses horse than your own-what if it kicks itself and does a tendon while you're away? I would also suggest 10/day is very expensive grass livery!
 
JennBags said:
and the buyer couldn't pick it up for a week or so, would you charge livery while it was still in your care?

Equally if you were the buyer how would you feel about being charged livery (commencing as soon as the vetting had been done?)
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If i was selling the horse then no i wouldnt charge - a little bit cheeky in my mind.

If i was buying and they charged me - then it could be a deal breaker.
 
In your situation Re the holiday:

I would pay a substantial deposit and request he be kept on full livery at hers without being ridden and pay for the livery charge.
 
When I bought Nits she stayed where she was for a week and a half because I was going away and I wanted to be around to make sure she settled once she'd moved. She was out at grass and there was no charge. Don't know what I'd expect but that was what I got.
 
I would not expect to have to pay livery for a horse between agreeing to buy and collection, but I wouldn't like to leave it longer than a week before collecting. With one horse I bought, the seller told me that she would accept my offer under the asking price (she had a queue of folks waiting to veiw him) if I collected him the very next day!
 
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If i was buying and they charged me - then it could be a deal breaker.
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Hmmm it almost was as I haven't paid the deposit yet. If he weren't such a nice horse, I would stick 2 fingers up at her & cancel the vetting.

Have decided to take the lorry & pick him up today if he passes the vetting - of course, if he doesn't I will take great pleasure in telling her to stick it.

Marmalade76, it's just over a week - I was going to collect him on Sat 1st.
 
No I wouldn't charge.

I was lucky with Ruby, she was vetted at my yard as we had better facilities. She passed and I took her that day.

My YO has just sold her Horse, she accepted the offer on Sat and is delivering him on Sat. Hasn't charged the new owner a weeks livery or delivery.
 
I think she is being cheeky asking you to pay livery.

When I sold my duaghter's pony they paid a deposit and then went on hol for 2 weeks and then couldn't collect him for another week - so 3 wks altogether. I just put him in the field and didn't ride him and wouldn't have dreamt of charging livery. I kept up the insurance until the day he left my ownership.

If I were you I would collect him and if you are on livery then I'm sure your YO or YM will be able to handle him while you are away. Also, he will be a bit more settled in his new home by the time you get back from holiday.
 
My mare passed the vetting on the Tuesday and I didn't pick her up until the following Monday. I wasn't charged for her Part Livery inbetween. (Owner had her on part livery.)
 
One of the horses I sold was with me for three weeks whilst the buyer holidayed. I felt it was a bit cheeky of her but I didn't mind as he was out at grass and I had something else to ride. She did arrange insurance before she went away, though.
 
No, I wouldnt charge and would be upset if I was charged.

I bought my arab but was due to go on holiday the week after I bought her so he kept for the week before (with me visiting losts getting to know her) then for the 2 weeks we were away. He was a friend though and he's a breeder so whats one more when you have billions? :D
 
I think its a really cheeky ask tbh. It would have been much better for him to have stayed at same yard until you get back. However needs must.
 
I was selling a horse the answer is no, I'd feel rather cheeky charging livery while someone makes travel arrangements, I'd expect anything up to a week for someone to collect anyway if they are working during the week, have children to sort out or need to book in with a horse transport company or hire a trailer etc so I'd kinda of expect them to collec the following weekend anyway if you see what I mean and vice verca, I'd feel a narked if they wanted me to pay for it's keep just while I arranged stuff, besides surely one last week with your horse is a nice thing....just my view though :)
 
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