If your horse injured someone...

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jhoward

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As in a broken leg. What would you do? sounds a bit odd but i get the feeling im being sent on a guilt trip, which actully im not to chuffed about.

maybe rather than what would you do, I should ask. would you feel guilty and take the guilt trip? or say well hang on...

circamstances, new horse KNOWN to be very difficult to bring in turn out, with me 4 days and had been put out with 3 new field mates for 3 days, left to settle, horse is a 3 yr old and a big lad.

yard buddy decided to bring said horse in.. she decided to bring him in first. I guess as 2 of the others were going for him badley her thoughts were to get him out of the way.

he apparently splattered her and booted her for good measure outcome is today leg worse and doctor is thinking she has broken it.

how ever, im not going to the guilt trip ride, she knew the horse was a problem, id gone to collect her daughter from work to save her a 40 mile round trip .. she was trying to help me out.

argggg dont get me wrong i do feel bad but i also feel she should never of tried to of bring him in

(as it happens ive now had him in and out a few times and have had no issues atall and this horse is deffinatly not nasty in anyway.)
 
Yes, what TicTac said. We all take a risk being around horses. She knew he was difficult but decided to handle him anyway. I'd still feel bad if one of my horses did that to somebody but she has to take responsibility for her own actions here.
 
If i am reading it right she did it without permission? If so ***** happens, nothing wrong with feeling slightly guilty, it's human nature but it is not your fault nor the horses, it is her fault, people should not handle other peoples horses without being asked or unless an emergency.

If she is a friend take a bottle of wine around and make nice.
 
Yes I would, and did, feel guilty.

Friend's daughter used my horse's backside as a brake when she couldn't stop her pony. My mare, who was not a kicker, was completely taken by surprise and kicked out breaking the child's leg. I did feel guilty but her mother wa very good about it and basically told the child that she had learned a lesson.
 
I think its just something we all have to consider that horses can cause accidents, intentional or not.
As said above, if she is a nice friend, maybe a box of chocs or bottle of wine, but otherwise, don't worry! If mine injured someone being brought in (and she can be a problem) I would probably say well thanks, but you know how she is and shouldn't have chanced it!
K x
 
If I'd asked her to bring him in, and this happened, I would feel terribly bad....but if she had taken it upon herself without my knowledge to bring him in, knowing he was difficult to handle...hmm certainly less so.
I hope she hasn't broken her leg.
 
I would feel really bad especially if she had been bringing him in to stop him being injured and then got injured herself.

I think she must have been in a difficult situation if she knew he was very tricky to bring in yet she if she left him and he got say got hurt and ended up with a nasty injury you would probably being saying why did she not bring him in when she could see he was at risk of being hurt.
 
Yes I would feel guilty, but given the circumstances, I don't think you should feel guilty. If she is a good friend she wouldn't want you to feel guilty either.:rolleyes:
 
she is a very good friend, and we help each other a hell of a lot not just with the horses, i know she is worrying about work and finances now, her car broke drown the other week and she had no money for shopping, so i paid for both, but my funds are runny out.. she did pay me back to be fair.

I worry for her i was annoyed at the time as my horse had clearly taken a beaten, not to of mentioned been scared.. gate hatch was bent and i could tell there had been more happen as we have to cross a road to go into the yard and there was a lot of muddy hoof prints up the road!

argggggg
 
my horse broke my friends finger by biting it! friend was walking through the field with an armful of hay for her pony but had been letting my horse take mouthfuls of it on previous days, horsie snatched a mouthful this day and caught the end of friends finger , crunching all the bones:eek: i did feel slightly guilty but i had told her not to let the big lump steal the hay:rolleyes:
 
Dorey broke a friend's fingers (friend is hard as nails and ended up throwing up outside the stable it hurt so bad!!) and I don't feel at all bad - it helps that friend bears no hard feelings.

It cannot be the fault of anyone that horses are unpredictable. She chose to bring in a difficult horse. The only person who should feel guilty for anything is her, because she's now making her situation worse and making you feel bad for something that wasn't your fault!
 
I'd feel really guilty that my horse had hurt someone BUT horses are horses and do things that don't always end happily. We know the risks!

Take her a lovely meal for the family so she doesn't have to cook and a box of chocs too. She's a good friend she would not want you to feel guilty.
 
Don't feel guilty. She's a grown woman and she understands that riding and handling horses is risky and that horses do unpredictable things sometimes. If she wanted to participate in a safe sport she'd play chess or something but there's a reason she loves horses.
Get her a bunch of flowers and be her friend, just as you would be if her horse had broken her leg. Accidents happen and she's been unlucky. Now you just need to be there for her while she gets better.
 
TBH she should have taken the others out first. It is asking for trouble taking out a lower ranking horse before the others as they almost always crash through as they are scared of the others. I have known countless accidents happen because of this. Having said that, yes, I would still feel really guilty, and a similar thing has just happened to me, but it is not your fault.
 
Extremely guilty-she was trying to do a good deed, sounds like yuo move each others horses a lot? She thought he was getting beaten up (sounds like you agree about that?) and brought him in. If you do each otehrs horses/children a lot had you told her how difficult he was to bring in?
I wouldn't be surprised tbh if she sued you to cover her lost income, even without malice I presume you have insurance?
Of course if you don't normally touch each others horses I suppose it's a bit different.
 
I would feel guilty because that is the way I am, but on the other hand, these are horses, no guarnatees one way or another, especially not in the situation you describe.

I hope your friend heals quickly and well.
 
Wagtail said:
TBH she should have taken the others out first. It is asking for trouble taking out a lower ranking horse before the others as they almost always crash through as they are scared of the others. .
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This.

Any-one with more than minimal experience should know this. If your friend had taken out the boss horse, the group dynamics would have changed anyway, so the problem would probably have diminished as she worked her way down the pecking order taking them in one at a time. But then most experienced horse people wouldn't put a new horse in a field with 3 others so soon, that too is asking for trouble.

My advice is to take her a box of chocolates and if she needs to go to hospital offer to drive her there.
 
My horse bucked my friend off and broke her arm... while I was on holiday, she was very good about it though and I helped her out with stuff she couldnt do horsey wise! She did get a good few months of working from home which I think she was chuffed about so not the end of the world :P
 
If my horse broke someones leg (regardless of whether they were my friend or not) I'd get them a card and some chocolates/flowers/wine.

You shouldn't feel too guilty about it though I don't think, she chose to put herself in that situation. My horse tends to be lower down in ranks so in the past I've had to ask a member of staff to fetch another livery's horse in so I can catch my own because otherwise she'd get beaten up en route!!

I'd never bring in someone else's horse though unless they'd specifically asked me to, friend or not! If the horse was getting beaten up worse than normal horsing around (lol) I'd tell a member of staff. I'm not on DIY though so I'm not used to sharing duties with other liveries.
 
TicTac said:
Accidents happen!
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My first thought accidents happen too. A genuine accident. You didnt plan it or knowingly let someone get a horse in that has done this kind of thing before. As you say its not done it again. Young etc etc

As an adult she would know horses can be dangerous...even the quiet ones as well can have their moment of being unpredictable etc etc

When I got my first horse Plod cob, a friend who was an EVENTER broke her arm on him...I remember being such a wimp thinking I had some hooligan horse as I am NOT an eventer..and not a brilliant rider if one exists! No problem 13 years later! Lots of Normal falls.

You just never know! HOWEVER in these days of making money out of no win no fee culture this is why we have to have public liability. An excellent riding school when my son learnt to ride was sued via SEIB as a kid broke its arm and the stupid stupid parents claimed they didnt know it was a risk sport.(Classic No win No fee). All the other mums were furious with them...pathetic. They nearly ruined it for everyone else. It was the best run riding school and I drove past others to take my son. Greed! Riding school owner was going to stop kids coming along.

At the end of the day you would end up not touching or helping anyone else ie holidays if we had that suing mentality. Makes you think though.

Hope she is a good friend. You did nothing wrong.
 
if she sued she have to sue the other horses owners too as it was their horses which caused the OP's horse to be scared and barge through;) it could end up with sueing the whole yard and it's mother :rolleyes:
 
I'd feel bad, yeah. But, guilt tripping is a bit cheeky of her I think. Not just because she handled the horse without asking, but also because you're friends and guilt tripping your friend is slightly...odd.

But yes, I'd apologise profoundly and give chocolate or something. Accidents happen though, and people have to accept that around horses. Especially if the horse is known to be difficult.
 
My last mare did double barrel someone in the ribs.
However the girl thought it would be funny to chase the horses around the field with a whip, and my mare demanded respect, she would not be chased around by a 15 year old girl!
I had no sympathy for her, she was old enough to know chasing horses around a field with a whip was NOT a sensible thing to do!

Under normal circumstances I would be mortified! I would apologise with a card and a bottle of wine or something!
 
i took her to a and e today, and she just has bad brusiing, the bruising only came out over last 24 hours, but nothing broken, but she is going to be laid up for a while yet.
 
SusieT said:
Extremely guilty-she was trying to do a good deed, sounds like yuo move each others horses a lot? She thought he was getting beaten up (sounds like you agree about that?) and brought him in. If you do each otehrs horses/children a lot had you told her how difficult he was to bring in?
I wouldn't be surprised tbh if she sued you to cover her lost income, even without malice I presume you have insurance?
Of course if you don't normally touch each others horses I suppose it's a bit different.
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I actually didn't think this deserved STFU! I know someone who sued her friend when she was injured in a car crash and ended up having time off work. I wouldn't do it, or I don't think I would. Generally I don't like suing.

Its easy to say grab the dominant horse, but not always easy in a fight when the scared one is running at the gate and you're there - sometimes emotions over ride logic! She should have just left them, bet she will next time!

Anyway, glad she hasn't broken anything. Hopefully things are blowing over?
 
The_Hooligan said:
It was her choice to bring him in when and how she did, it was an accident and as she took it on her self to get him when she did not wait for you, Its really not your fault or problem.
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agree with this - horses are animals, anything can happen and even being near horses you should really accept that risk
If you dont want to be hurt - keep away :)
 
I don't see why the comment about suing got a STFU either... Very rude!! I thought that poster had a point... Your friend is suffering with an injury and potentially loss of earnings as a result of your horses actions. Whether she was negligent in her actions is questionable depending on the specifics but if she is now in financial difficulty because your horse kicked her, if that was me i'd be feeling terribly guilty and you should be prepared for the fact that she may sue your insurance co. Hopefully she won't... I'd be round theere with a card and chocs or something and be offering to do her horses till she's back on her feet. I do feelsorry for both of you though, it's not your fault and she has an injury it sounds s though she could do without. I hope it doesn't affect your friendship although if you're good friends it shouldn't do.
 
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